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  Python project ngangsia akumbo <ngangsia@gmail.com> - 2013-11-27 17:43 -0800
    Re: Python project Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-11-27 21:42 -0500
      Re: Python project ngangsia akumbo <ngangsia@gmail.com> - 2013-11-28 15:34 -0800
    Re: Python project Johannes Findeisen <mailman@hanez.org> - 2013-11-28 04:07 +0100
      Re: Python project ngangsia akumbo <ngangsia@gmail.com> - 2013-11-28 15:43 -0800
        Re: Python project Johannes Findeisen <mailman@hanez.org> - 2013-11-29 01:09 +0100
        Re: Python project Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-28 19:12 -0500
        Re: Python project Jason Friedman <jsf80238@gmail.com> - 2013-11-30 20:04 -0700

#60657 — Python project

Hi everyone

I a beginner in python. The first project is to build an online city guide start with my own city. I will need some support on where to get started.

support like where to find the required resources which will help me, libraries, tutorials on similar project etc. 

Please thanks for you understanding. Hope to here from you.


Richard

 

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#60661

On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:43:27 -0800 (PST), ngangsia akumbo 
<ngangsia@gmail.com> wrote:
> I a beginner in python. The first project is to build an online 
city guide start with my own city. I will need some support on where 
to get started.

Are you experienced in other languages,  in html? Is this your first 
time programming on Linux? Are you using Python 3.3? Are you 
constrained in what extra modules you may or must use?

Can you just build each page using some Web generator?

-- 
DaveA

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#60742

On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:42:21 PM UTC-8, Dave Angel wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:43:27 -0800 (PST), ngangsia akumbo 
> 
> <ngangsia@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I a beginner in python. The first project is to build an online 
> 
> city guide start with my own city. I will need some support on where 
> 
> to get started.
> 
> 
> 
> Are you experienced in other languages,  in html? Is this your first 
> 
> time programming on Linux? Are you using Python 3.3? Are you 
> 
> constrained in what extra modules you may or must use?
> 
> 
> 
> Can you just build each page using some Web generator?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> DaveA



On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:42:21 PM UTC-8, Dave Angel wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:43:27 -0800 (PST), ngangsia akumbo 
> 
> <ngangsia@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I a beginner in python. The first project is to build an online 
> 
> city guide start with my own city. I will need some support on where 
> 
> to get started.
> 
> 
> 
> Are you experienced in other languages,  in html? Is this your first 
> 
> time programming on Linux? Are you using Python 3.3? Are you 
> 
> constrained in what extra modules you may or must use?
> 
> 
> 
> Can you just build each page using some Web generator?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> DaveA

I am not that experience with python. I can work with HTML but i think i still need some mastery. Yes this is my first time programming on linux.

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#60672

On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:43:27 -0800 (PST)
ngangsia akumbo wrote:

> Hi everyone

Hi,

> I a beginner in python. The first project is to build an online city guide start with my own city. I will need some support on where to get started.

Take a look at the Django Web framework: https://www.djangoproject.com/

But, you really need to know a lot more then just a little piece of
Python. You need to know how web applications actually work and how to
implement a frontend using HTML, CSS etc.

Are you aware of this? Python will not do that for you.

> support like where to find the required resources which will help me, libraries, tutorials on similar project etc. 

I believe you will not find libraries, tutorials etc. for creating a
"city guide" on the web. That is your job. You need to implement your
business idea yourself, using maybe Python.

Please give us more information about the state of your project and
what you have tried to implement and what you are missing... There are
lots of libraries available for Python doing most of the jobs you want
to have done.

Do you want us to explain how to build a web application?

Regards,
Johannes

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#60743

On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:07:15 PM UTC-8, Johannes Findeisen wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:43:27 -0800 (PST)
> 
> ngangsia akumbo wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Hi everyone
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> > I a beginner in python. The first project is to build an online city guide start with my own city. I will need some support on where to get started.
> 
> 
> 
> Take a look at the Django Web framework: https://www.djangoproject.com/
> 
> 
> 
> But, you really need to know a lot more then just a little piece of
> 
> Python. You need to know how web applications actually work and how to
> 
> implement a frontend using HTML, CSS etc.
> 
> 
> 
> Are you aware of this? Python will not do that for you.
> 
> 
> 
> > support like where to find the required resources which will help me, libraries, tutorials on similar project etc. 
> 
> 
> 
> I believe you will not find libraries, tutorials etc. for creating a
> 
> "city guide" on the web. That is your job. You need to implement your
> 
> business idea yourself, using maybe Python.
> 
> 
> 
> Please give us more information about the state of your project and
> 
> what you have tried to implement and what you are missing... There are
> 
> lots of libraries available for Python doing most of the jobs you want
> 
> to have done.
> 
> 
> 
> Do you want us to explain how to build a web application?
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Johannes

I wish to come up with a city guide that can give directions, locations like business spots, cafe, restaurants, hospitals in English and the local language spoken by the people.

To be honest am not that experience, i think i need some time to study more in order to attain this goal, but i will like to get direction and may be resources which can also help me on my way.

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#60744

On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 15:43:43 -0800 (PST)
ngangsia akumbo wrote:
> 
> I wish to come up with a city guide that can give directions, locations like business spots, cafe, restaurants, hospitals in English and the local language spoken by the people.

Thats a nice idea! :)

> To be honest am not that experience, i think i need some time to study more in order to attain this goal, but i will like to get direction and may be resources which can also help me on my way.

If you are willing to learn then you are on the right way... ;) But you
really need to understand a lot of things if you want to start
developing such an application. Just start coding for fun and learning
and after some time you will automatically understand how things work
and maybe find a way to implement your solution.

Feel free to ask people at the right places but ask questions that we
could answer. Just asking how to implement a "city guide" is a bad idea
because you will get no answers on that. Ask questions which are
concrete so we could try to help you out.

BTW: Using Python is a good idea to start learning coding because it is
a very straight forward language. Many people say it is hard to learn
but I don't agree with them. If you learn Python you learn a language
for all kind of purposes and the documentation is excellent!

As I wrote in my last mail, go to https://www.djangoproject.com/ and
read the tutorials there. You could learn lot of Python and web
application development from that.

Regards,
Johannes

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#60745

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On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 6:43 PM, ngangsia akumbo <ngangsia@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:07:15 PM UTC-8, Johannes Findeisen wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:43:27 -0800 (PST)
> >
> > ngangsia akumbo wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi everyone
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > > I a beginner in python. The first project is to build an online city
> guide start with my own city. I will need some support on where to get
> started.
> >
> >
> >
> > Take a look at the Django Web framework: https://www.djangoproject.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > But, you really need to know a lot more then just a little piece of
> >
> > Python. You need to know how web applications actually work and how to
> >
> > implement a frontend using HTML, CSS etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you aware of this? Python will not do that for you.
> >
> >
> >
> > > support like where to find the required resources which will help me,
> libraries, tutorials on similar project etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > I believe you will not find libraries, tutorials etc. for creating a
> >
> > "city guide" on the web. That is your job. You need to implement your
> >
> > business idea yourself, using maybe Python.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please give us more information about the state of your project and
> >
> > what you have tried to implement and what you are missing... There are
> >
> > lots of libraries available for Python doing most of the jobs you want
> >
> > to have done.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you want us to explain how to build a web application?
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Johannes
>
> I wish to come up with a city guide that can give directions, locations
> like business spots, cafe, restaurants, hospitals in English and the local
> language spoken by the people.
>
> To be honest am not that experience, i think i need some time to study
> more in order to attain this goal, but i will like to get direction and may
> be resources which can also help me on my way.
>
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>

you will first need to learn many skills that it seems you don't have.

You say you can write html -- that is good

Can you set up and administer a web server such as apache?  if not, you
probably have 1 to 6 months of learning there

Once you learn python you will also need to learn a web framework  - may
take you a week to 6 months to learn this to the level you would require.
I'm betting on 6 months at least

Finally, you need to collect all of that information you wish you make
available.  That in itself is a huge undertaking

To be perfectly honest, this is much too large a project for you.  First
read some python tutorials and learn how to code in python.  If you work it
every day, maybe you can kind of understand what its about in a very
superficial sense in a month.  However, if you are having fun learning,
then add a new small piece to learn.

Good luck

-- 
Joel Goldstick
http://joelgoldstick.com

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#60824

> To be perfectly honest, this is much too large a project for you.  First
> read some python tutorials and learn how to code in python.  If you work it
> every day, maybe you can kind of understand what its about in a very
> superficial sense in a month.  However, if you are having fun learning, then
> add a new small piece to learn.

Joel may be too pessimistic.

The OP (Richard) says he wants to create an "online city guide start
with my own city".  I could see that as being anything from a few
simple HTML pages all the way to a database-backed Django site.  Is
there an example of a guide to someone else's city that you are trying
to emulate?  If yes, reply with the link/s.  If no, and because you
know HTML, can you create a mock-up of what you would like your end
result to look like, and then share those links with us?

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