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| Started by | Xantipius <rt5@bk.ru> |
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| First post | 2012-08-13 03:18 -0700 |
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How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Xantipius <rt5@bk.ru> - 2012-08-13 03:18 -0700
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-13 10:52 +0000
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-08-13 21:45 +1000
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-13 13:40 +0100
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Xantipius <rt5@bk.ru> - 2012-08-13 16:00 -0700
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-14 09:52 +1000
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-14 01:34 +0100
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-14 03:00 +0000
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-14 12:38 +0100
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-14 12:44 +0000
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-08-15 13:31 +1000
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 13:43 +1000
[OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-14 23:12 +0200
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 07:46 +1000
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-14 23:55 +0000
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 11:44 +1000
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-15 03:43 +0000
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 14:07 +1000
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-15 04:06 +0200
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 13:16 +1000
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-15 13:54 +0200
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 13:18 +1000
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-08-15 13:56 +1000
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 14:10 +1000
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-08-15 13:59 +0000
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2012-08-15 22:01 -0700
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-08-16 20:45 +0000
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-08-17 01:07 -0400
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Alex Strickland <sscc@mweb.co.za> - 2012-08-16 23:01 +0200
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 01:28 -0600
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 17:41 +1000
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-15 09:37 +0000
Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-08-14 18:16 -0400
[OT] A short Usenet primer (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-14 22:47 +0200
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) PythonAB <python@rgbaz.eu> - 2012-08-13 15:42 +0200
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Miki Tebeka <miki.tebeka@gmail.com> - 2012-08-13 07:03 -0700
Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Xantipius <rt5@bk.ru> - 2012-08-13 16:07 -0700
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2012-08-15 13:54 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name |
| Message-ID | <7435785.XlRUa0Ptbj@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #27071 |
Chris Angelico wrote: > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> Chris Angelico wrote: >>> I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts >>> "ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are >>> similar). That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing >>> purposes, though if anyone wants a truly unique handle for me, >>> "Rosuav" is more effective than my real name. >> >> For one to read your signature, one has to download and read your entire >> posting first. > > And my signature has less information than the headers. So you're not > deprived of anything. With NNTP and IMAP4 it is possible to retrieve only the message header. Therefore, messages are easier to filter by message header than by message body. So the former is done, to keep one's input stream's S/N high. >>> Though I'm now not so sure about your name, PointedEars. Are you a >>> Vulcan or an elf? >> That is a stupid question. > > Of course, my bad. The difference is obvious, I should have known > which without asking. <http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> -- F'up2 PointedEars Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-15 13:18 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name |
| Message-ID | <mailman.3295.1345000694.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #27068 |
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote: > Please use `[...]' or `[…]' to indicate omission instead. I could have > written `politeness...' myself. Incidentally, how _do_ the square brackets help? Can a reader know that you put square-bracketed dots and that I didn't omit a lengthy quoted string? Perhaps you said "Please use `m4-style quotes rather than matching ASCII quotes' or `something else' to indicate omission instead". ChrisA
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| From | Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> |
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| Date | 2012-08-15 13:56 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name |
| Message-ID | <87txw4erjo.fsf@benfinney.id.au> |
| In reply to | #27072 |
Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> writes:
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
> > Please use `[...]' or `[…]' to indicate omission instead. I could
> > have written `politeness...' myself.
>
> Incidentally, how _do_ the square brackets help?
They are a long-standing convention for marking an editorial addition or
clarification.
Square brackets – also called simply brackets (US) – are mainly used
to enclose explanatory or missing material usually added by someone
other than the original author, especially in quoted text.
<URL:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket#Square_brackets_.5B_.5D>
--
\ “What I resent is that the range of your vision should be the |
`\ limit of my action.” —Henry James |
_o__) |
Ben Finney
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-15 14:10 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name |
| Message-ID | <mailman.3298.1345003843.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #27076 |
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn >> <PointedEars@web.de> wrote: >> > Please use `[...]' or `[…]' to indicate omission instead. I could >> > have written `politeness...' myself. >> >> Incidentally, how _do_ the square brackets help? > > They are a long-standing convention for marking an editorial addition or > clarification. > > Square brackets – also called simply brackets (US) – are mainly used > to enclose explanatory or missing material usually added by someone > other than the original author, especially in quoted text. > > <URL:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket#Square_brackets_.5B_.5D> Right, as is often done with dangling pronouns. "[Square brackets] are a long-standing convention..." would be a valid way of quoting your above statement. What I mean is that putting brackets around the ellipsis adds nothing, and certainly doesn't eliminate ambiguity; the only advantage is that [...] cannot be confused for a written-in pause. ChrisA
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| From | Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-08-15 13:59 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name |
| Message-ID | <k0ga0p$7oo$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #27072 |
On 2012-08-15, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
><PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
>> Please use `[...]' or `[?]' to indicate omission instead. I could have
>> written `politeness...' myself.
>
> Incidentally, how _do_ the square brackets help?
Because that's the standard method for denoting text that was inserted
by an editor and not written by the original author.
> Can a reader know that you put square-bracketed dots and that I
> didn't omit a lengthy quoted string?
Generally, yes. That's the convention for Usenet and mailing lists.
> Perhaps you said "Please use `m4-style quotes rather than matching
> ASCII quotes' or `something else' to indicate omission instead".
--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! As President I have
at to go vacuum my coin
gmail.com collection!
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| From | Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> |
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| Date | 2012-08-15 22:01 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name |
| Message-ID | <mailman.3341.1345094134.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #27095 |
On 2012-08-15 at 13:59:53 +0000, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 2012-08-15, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote: > > Perhaps you said "Please use `m4-style quotes rather than matching > > ASCII quotes' or `something else' to indicate omission instead". When I've got these antlers on I am dictating and when I take them off I am not dictating. -- Dan (who doesn't mind whether you use my last name or not)
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| From | Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-08-16 20:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name |
| Message-ID | <k0jm4k$mmc$2@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #27139 |
On 2012-08-16, Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> wrote:
> On 2012-08-15 at 13:59:53 +0000,
> Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-08-15, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Perhaps you said "Please use `m4-style quotes rather than matching
>> > ASCII quotes' or `something else' to indicate omission instead".
>
> When I've got these antlers on I am dictating and when I take them off I
> am not dictating.
Well done!
--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! Do you like "TENDER
at VITTLES"?
gmail.com
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| From | Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-17 01:07 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name |
| Message-ID | <mailman.3407.1345180019.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #27199 |
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:45:08 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards
<invalid@invalid.invalid> declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:
> On 2012-08-16, Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> wrote:
> > On 2012-08-15 at 13:59:53 +0000,
> > Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2012-08-15, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > Perhaps you said "Please use `m4-style quotes rather than matching
> >> > ASCII quotes' or `something else' to indicate omission instead".
> >
> > When I've got these antlers on I am dictating and when I take them off I
> > am not dictating.
>
> Well done!
Guess the antlers are off then, if we're serving venison...
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
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| From | Alex Strickland <sscc@mweb.co.za> |
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| Date | 2012-08-16 23:01 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name |
| Message-ID | <mailman.3395.1345151630.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #27095 |
On 2012/08/16 07:01 AM, Dan Sommers wrote: > When I've got these antlers on I am dictating and when I take them off I > am not dictating. Very good. -- Regards Alex
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| From | Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-15 01:28 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name |
| Message-ID | <mailman.3303.1345015750.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #27068 |
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn > <PointedEars@web.de> wrote: >> Please use `[...]' or `[…]' to indicate omission instead. I could have >> written `politeness...' myself. > > Incidentally, how _do_ the square brackets help? The square brackets clarify that the ellipsis was not part of the original quotation but was added at some later point. > Can a reader know > that you put square-bracketed dots and that I didn't omit a lengthy > quoted string? Irrelevant. Why would an author adhering to common principles of style ever use square-bracketed dots in a statement that he authored himself? And if instead your quotation had been of Thomas also quoting a third party, then it would not be important whether you or Thomas had added the omission -- the main point is that it wasn't there originally. Be that as it may, the MLA no longer requires square brackets around an ellipsis of omission, so at least from a scholarly standpoint you're off the hook.
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-15 17:41 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name |
| Message-ID | <mailman.3304.1345016488.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #27068 |
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> wrote: > Irrelevant. Why would an author adhering to common principles of > style ever use square-bracketed dots in a statement that he authored > himself? You mean exactly the way he did in the post you quoted me as quoting? ChrisA
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2012-08-15 09:37 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name |
| Message-ID | <502b6dec$0$29867$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #27083 |
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:41:20 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Irrelevant. Why would an author adhering to common principles of style >> ever use square-bracketed dots in a statement that he authored himself? > > You mean exactly the way he did in the post you quoted me as quoting? That's the usual problem with markup. How do you distinguish markup used as markup from the same characters used as text? English has a bunch of ad-hoc rules like sticking things in quotation marks, square brackets or angle brackets, but no systematic way of escaping markup in general. There's no standard way to distinguish my writing [...] deliberately (as here) from an editor trimming it, except from context, and that is notoriously ambiguous. "Godel, Escher and Bach" by Douglas Hofstadter discusses this sort of quoting, meta-quoting, etc. in detail. A good read if you want your brain stretched to the point it starts leaking out of your ears. -- Steven
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| From | Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-14 18:16 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) |
| Message-ID | <mailman.3290.1344982574.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #27060 |
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:46:31 +1000, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
>
> Though I'm now not so sure about your name, PointedEars. Are you a
> Vulcan or an elf?
>
Maybe he's a Chihuahua <G>
{says the Imperial Vargr}
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2012-08-14 22:47 +0200 |
| Subject | [OT] A short Usenet primer (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) |
| Message-ID | <2662730.2zdq91zsVA@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #27009 |
Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 14/08/2012 00:00, Xantipius wrote: >> On Aug 13, 3:40 pm, Mark Lawrence <breamore...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> On 13/08/2012 11:18, Xantipius wrote: >>>> subj >>> >>> Either >>> >>> a) write some code and when and if it fails give us a small code snippet >>> that demonstates the problem with the complete traceback. >>> >>> or >>> >>> b) state how much you are willing to pay for someone here to come up >>> with a solution for you. >> >> Mark, in regard your last remark: >> it's just a recreation for me. Nothing more in it. >> I like to put some weird and useless problems before myself. > > Is it […] normal practice to communicate with yourself via a public > mailing list/news group? No, it is not. However, I would not expect too much from a Google Groups user who posts under pseudonym without a reasonable message body. Probably they are not even aware that they are on Usenet, thinking that they are posting to a Web forum instead. > When did you seek my permission to call me by my forename? AIUI, in English (which is not my native language), it is customary that peers call themselves by their first names (in other languages, too). This does not necessarily indicate familiarity. We are all peers on/in this mailing list/newsgroup working on different aspects of the same problem: learning how to write good Python programs. So you should not be surprised to be called and referred to by your first name or nick name. In fact, on Usenet it is usually considered an appreciation of the person so addressed *not* to use their last name. If you are called by someone by your last name only, you probably did that someone very wrong (or encountered a hypersensitive entity, or you are being trolled; depends). However, communication that really only concerns two people should be limited to private e-mail (which is what the mandatory address header fields are for). (I think this one should be public, for other newbies.) HTH. And trim your quotes to the relevant minimum, please. -- PointedEars Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | PythonAB <python@rgbaz.eu> |
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| Date | 2012-08-13 15:42 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.3230.1344866394.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #26973 |
On 13 aug 2012, at 14:40, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 13/08/2012 11:18, Xantipius wrote: >> subj >> > > Either > > a) write some code and when and if it fails give us a small code snippet that demonstates the problem with the complete traceback. > > or > > b) state how much you are willing to pay for someone here to come up with a solution for you. > > -- > Cheers. > > Mark Lawrence. > or... go out and buy the DVD it's ripped from... ;)
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| From | Miki Tebeka <miki.tebeka@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-08-13 07:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d803513d-cfa1-436b-a104-1a3c56f46710@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #26973 |
Have a look at PyMedia.
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| From | Xantipius <rt5@bk.ru> |
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| Date | 2012-08-13 16:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c4ba6ef3-da13-40a9-b925-1fe9071d4e7c@t7g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #26989 |
On Aug 13, 5:03 pm, Miki Tebeka <miki.teb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Have a look at PyMedia. Miki, I've just downloaded this. Thanks. A quote from their website: ============================================ Video file as pictures Save your video clip into the set of BMP pictures and enjoy your favourite snapshot. Get your video back after you have it as pictures ===================================================== This is exactly what I was looking for.
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