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  How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Xantipius <rt5@bk.ru> - 2012-08-13 03:18 -0700
    Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-13 10:52 +0000
    Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-08-13 21:45 +1000
    Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-13 13:40 +0100
      Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Xantipius <rt5@bk.ru> - 2012-08-13 16:00 -0700
        Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-14 09:52 +1000
        Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-14 01:34 +0100
          Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-14 03:00 +0000
            Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-14 12:38 +0100
              Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-14 12:44 +0000
                Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-08-15 13:31 +1000
                  Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 13:43 +1000
              [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-14 23:12 +0200
                Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 07:46 +1000
                  Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-14 23:55 +0000
                    Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 11:44 +1000
                      Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-15 03:43 +0000
                        Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 14:07 +1000
                  Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-15 04:06 +0200
                    Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 13:16 +1000
                      Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-15 13:54 +0200
                    Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 13:18 +1000
                      Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-08-15 13:56 +1000
                        Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 14:10 +1000
                      Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-08-15 13:59 +0000
                        Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2012-08-15 22:01 -0700
                          Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-08-16 20:45 +0000
                            Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-08-17 01:07 -0400
                        Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Alex Strickland <sscc@mweb.co.za> - 2012-08-16 23:01 +0200
                    Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 01:28 -0600
                    Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-15 17:41 +1000
                      Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-15 09:37 +0000
                Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-08-14 18:16 -0400
          [OT] A short Usenet primer (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-08-14 22:47 +0200
    Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) PythonAB <python@rgbaz.eu> - 2012-08-13 15:42 +0200
    Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Miki Tebeka <miki.tebeka@gmail.com> - 2012-08-13 07:03 -0700
      Re: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP) Xantipius <rt5@bk.ru> - 2012-08-13 16:07 -0700

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#26973 — How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP)

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#26975

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 03:18:49 -0700, Xantipius wrote:

> subj

The same way as you compressed it, only in reverse.

When you ask a sensible question, I'm sure that somebody will give you a 
sensible answer.


-- 
Steven

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#26981

Xantipius <rt5@bk.ru> writes:

> subj

resp

-- 
 \     “What is needed is not the will to believe but the will to find |
  `\       out, which is the exact opposite.” —Bertrand Russell, _Free |
_o__)                           Thought and Official Propaganda_, 1928 |
Ben Finney

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#26987

On 13/08/2012 11:18, Xantipius wrote:
> subj
>

Either

a) write some code and when and if it fails give us a small code snippet 
that demonstates the problem with the complete traceback.

or

b) state how much you are willing to pay for someone here to come up 
with a solution for you.

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence.

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#27007

On Aug 13, 3:40 pm, Mark Lawrence <breamore...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 13/08/2012 11:18, Xantipius wrote:
>
> > subj
>
> Either
>
> a) write some code and when and if it fails give us a small code snippet
> that demonstates the problem with the complete traceback.
>
> or
>
> b) state how much you are willing to pay for someone here to come up
> with a solution for you.
>
> --
> Cheers.
>
> Mark Lawrence.

Mark, in regard your last remark:
it's just a recreation for me. Nothing more in it.
I like to put some weird and useless problems before myself.

Cheers.

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#27008

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Xantipius <rt5@bk.ru> wrote:
> Mark, in regard your last remark:
> it's just a recreation for me. Nothing more in it.
> I like to put some weird and useless problems before myself.

In that case, I strongly recommend that you write some code instead of
throwing zero-effort questions onto a mailing list.

Though this sort of request does tend to have amusement value. Thanks Ben!

ChrisA

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#27009

On 14/08/2012 00:00, Xantipius wrote:
> On Aug 13, 3:40 pm, Mark Lawrence <breamore...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 13/08/2012 11:18, Xantipius wrote:
>>
>>> subj
>>
>> Either
>>
>> a) write some code and when and if it fails give us a small code snippet
>> that demonstates the problem with the complete traceback.
>>
>> or
>>
>> b) state how much you are willing to pay for someone here to come up
>> with a solution for you.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers.
>>
>> Mark Lawrence.
>
> Mark, in regard your last remark:
> it's just a recreation for me. Nothing more in it.
> I like to put some weird and useless problems before myself.
>
> Cheers.
>

Is it your normal practice to communicate with yourself via a public 
mailing list/news group?  When did you seek my permission to call me by 
my forename?

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence.

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#27012

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:34:46 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:

> When did you seek my permission to call me by my forename?

Sheesh. It's 2012, not 1812. If you sign your posts with your full name, 
you have to expect that people will call you "Mark" rather than "Mr 
Lawrence" or "Lord High Mucky-Muck Grand Poohbar Lawrence" -- even if 
they haven't been formally introduced.

Mark, we're all human and the occasional snark is only to be expected, 
but demanding that people ask permission to call you by your first name 
in an informal forum like this crosses the line to total dickishness. 
Chill out before you get yourself kill-filed into irrelevance.



-- 
Steven

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#27037

On 14/08/2012 04:00, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:34:46 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
>> When did you seek my permission to call me by my forename?
>
> Sheesh. It's 2012, not 1812. If you sign your posts with your full name,
> you have to expect that people will call you "Mark" rather than "Mr
> Lawrence" or "Lord High Mucky-Muck Grand Poohbar Lawrence" -- even if
> they haven't been formally introduced.
>
> Mark, we're all human and the occasional snark is only to be expected,
> but demanding that people ask permission to call you by your first name
> in an informal forum like this crosses the line to total dickishness.
> Chill out before you get yourself kill-filed into irrelevance.
>
>
>

For the record I was asked to use my full name rather than my user name 
on Python mailing lists.  But see also my earlier reply to you on the 
"save dictionary to a file without brackets" thread.

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence.

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#27044

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:38:24 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:

> On 14/08/2012 04:00, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[...]
> For the record I was asked to use my full name rather than my user name
> on Python mailing lists.  But see also my earlier reply to you on the
> "save dictionary to a file without brackets" thread.

And thank you for your reasonable reply.

I don't remember anything about this request to use your full name. I 
won't speak for others, but I support the right of people to be known by 
whatever (reasonable, non-offensive) name or names they choose on 
informal mailing lists like this, so long as they give *some* moniker 
that others can refer to them by.

If somebody here wants to be known as "Mr Smith", or "Professor Jones", 
or "Tomato Girl the Boy Wonder" for that matter, then they need only sign 
their posts that way and give that in their From address, and I will use 
it. The pattern "Personal-Name Family-Name" is not the only naming system 
in the world.

http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/


(However, I don't promise not to roll my eyes if they choose a silly 
moniker, and I am the final arbitrator as to what counts as silly.)



-- 
Steven

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#27073

Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> writes:

> (However, I don't promise not to roll my eyes if they choose a silly 
> moniker, and I am the final arbitrator as to what counts as silly.)

I also don't promise to remember or comply with their request to be
known by an egregiously silly moniker, with me as the sole arbiter of
what counts as “egregiously silly”.

People have the right to ask to be known by a particular name, but they
are obliged to be reasonable about how successful their request will be
when they ask.

-- 
 \       “I watched the Indy 500, and I was thinking that if they left |
  `\         earlier they wouldn't have to go so fast.” —Steven Wright |
_o__)                                                                  |
Ben Finney

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#27074

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> wrote:
> People have the right to ask to be known by a particular name, but they
> are obliged to be reasonable about how successful their request will be
> when they ask.

Reminds me of what Torhelm said during one of our Dungeons and Dragons
campaigns:

Ancient D&D saying: "People who don't like nicknames shouldn't pick
multisyllabic names."

ChrisA

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#27060 — [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP))

Mark Lawrence wrote:

> On 14/08/2012 04:00, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:34:46 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>> When did you seek my permission to call me by my forename?
>> Sheesh. It's 2012, not 1812. If you sign your posts with your full name,
>> you have to expect that people will call you "Mark" rather than "Mr
>> Lawrence" or "Lord High Mucky-Muck Grand Poohbar Lawrence" -- even if
>> they haven't been formally introduced.
>>
>> Mark, we're all human and the occasional snark is only to be expected,
>> but demanding that people ask permission to call you by your first name
>> in an informal forum like this crosses the line to total dickishness.
>> Chill out before you get yourself kill-filed into irrelevance.
> 
> For the record I was asked to use my full name rather than my user name
> on Python mailing lists. 

Apples and oranges.

Probably you were asked that so that your postings could be distinguished 
from that of the other potential Marks around here.  Some people, including 
me, also consider posting under real name a basic act of politeness and form 
towards the reader, equivalent of an introduction of oneself.  Important 
enouth that, if not showed, will reduce the probability for an answer 
(sometimes down to zero).  For the record shows that if one aspect of 
politeness is ignored, other aspects are usually ignored as well.  People 
tend to hide behind pseudo-anonymity; they tend to write impolite things 
*intentionally* which they would not do if their real name was known and so 
their reputation IRL would be at stake.

Here endeth the lesson ;-)

-- 
PointedEars

Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#27061 — Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP))

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
> Probably you were asked that so that your postings could be distinguished
> from that of the other potential Marks around here.

I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
"ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are
similar). That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing
purposes, though if anyone wants a truly unique handle for me,
"Rosuav" is more effective than my real name.

> Some people, including
> me, also consider posting under real name a basic act of politeness... People
> tend to hide behind pseudo-anonymity; they tend to write impolite things
> *intentionally* which they would not do if their real name was known and so
> their reputation IRL would be at stake.

Agreed. Sometimes that's a good thing; there are places where
anonymity protection is important. But with these sorts of lists,
there's the potential to acquire a strong positive or strong negative
reputation; people who want a positive reputation usually want it
associated with *them*, not with some pseudonym.

Though I'm now not so sure about your name, PointedEars. Are you a
Vulcan or an elf?

ChrisA

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#27065 — Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP))

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:46:31 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:

> I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
> "ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are similar).
> That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing purposes, though if
> anyone wants a truly unique handle for me, "Rosuav" is more effective
> than my real name.

Mom? Is that you?



-- 
Steven

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#27067 — Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP))

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:46:31 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
>> "ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are similar).
>> That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing purposes, though if
>> anyone wants a truly unique handle for me, "Rosuav" is more effective
>> than my real name.
>
> Mom? Is that you?

Eh?

I'm guessing that's a reference to something that I'm not familiar with?

ChrisA

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#27075 — Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP))

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:44:29 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano
> <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:46:31 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
>>> "ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are
>>> similar). That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing
>>> purposes, though if anyone wants a truly unique handle for me,
>>> "Rosuav" is more effective than my real name.
>>
>> Mom? Is that you?
> 
> Eh?
> 
> I'm guessing that's a reference to something that I'm not familiar with?


It was a joke, implying that my mother uses the same "truly unique" 
handle as you.

With over 7 billion people on the planet, and no upper limit on the 
number of handles anyone can take, together with the lack of any 
definitive central registry, I wouldn't put money on any one of them 
being unique.

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that now you have claimed Rosuav is 
unique to you, some wag (or wags) have rushed out and registered it on 
whatever Internet forums you haven't already done so on and are already 
posting "I am [insert childish insult of your choice]" in your name.



-- 
Steven

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#27077 — Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name (was: How to uncompress a VOB file? (Win XP))

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> It was a joke, implying that my mother uses the same "truly unique"
> handle as you.
>
> With over 7 billion people on the planet, and no upper limit on the
> number of handles anyone can take, together with the lack of any
> definitive central registry, I wouldn't put money on any one of them
> being unique.
>
> It wouldn't surprise me to learn that now you have claimed Rosuav is
> unique to you, some wag (or wags) have rushed out and registered it on
> whatever Internet forums you haven't already done so on and are already
> posting "I am [insert childish insult of your choice]" in your name.

Ah. Sure. I get that.

But "Rosuav" is, as far as I know, unique to me in the entire English
language. (I checked once, and there's something in Italian that uses
the same letter combination. Not a person, though.) Yes, it's entirely
possible that someone will deliberately try to sully my name like
that, but I can't imagine that anyone would accidentally hit on it as
an internet username, given that it hasn't happened yet. And sure,
someone might be using it offline that I'm unaware of. I'm prepared to
chance that. :)

So yeah, I probably shouldn't have said "truly unique", but
"effectively unique". Pretty much anything you find on google.com or
duckduckgo.com with the name "rosuav" has come from me, or is
referencing me (and this would include the wag/s you describe, though
I've not seen that happen, and I've been using and claiming this name
for a decade or so - and that's only counting on the internet).

ChrisA

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#27068 — Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name

Chris Angelico wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Probably you were asked that so that your postings could be distinguished
>> from that of the other potential Marks around here.
> 
> I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
> "ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are
> similar). That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing
> purposes, though if anyone wants a truly unique handle for me,
> "Rosuav" is more effective than my real name.

For one to read your signature, one has to download and read your entire 
posting first.

>> Some people, including me, also consider posting under real name a basic
>> act of politeness...

Please use `[...]' or `[…]' to indicate omission instead.  I could have 
written `politeness...' myself.

>> People tend to hide behind pseudo-anonymity; they tend to write impolite
>> things *intentionally* which they would not do if their real name was
>> known and so their reputation IRL would be at stake.
> 
> Agreed. Sometimes that's a good thing; there are places where
> anonymity protection is important. But with these sorts of lists,
> there's the potential to acquire a strong positive or strong negative
> reputation; people who want a positive reputation usually want it
> associated with *them*, not with some pseudonym.

ACK.

> Though I'm now not so sure about your name, PointedEars. Are you a
> Vulcan or an elf?

That is a stupid question.

-- 
F'up2 PointedEars

Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#27071 — Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
>> "ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are
>> similar). That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing
>> purposes, though if anyone wants a truly unique handle for me,
>> "Rosuav" is more effective than my real name.
>
> For one to read your signature, one has to download and read your entire
> posting first.

And my signature has less information than the headers. So you're not
deprived of anything.

>>> Some people, including me, also consider posting under real name a basic
>>> act of politeness...
>
> Please use `[...]' or `[…]' to indicate omission instead.  I could have
> written `politeness...' myself.

You might, indeed. But since the triple-period is a standard rendition
of the grammatical notion of ellipsis, it's a generally-understood
notation to indicate the possible omission of quoted text.

>> Though I'm now not so sure about your name, PointedEars. Are you a
>> Vulcan or an elf?
>
> That is a stupid question.

Of course, my bad. The difference is obvious, I should have known
which without asking.

ChrisA

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