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| Started by | Victor Hooi <victorhooi@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2013-11-26 16:01 -0800 |
| Last post | 2013-11-26 16:21 -0800 |
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Python String Formatting - passing both a dict and string to .format() Victor Hooi <victorhooi@gmail.com> - 2013-11-26 16:01 -0800
Re: Python String Formatting - passing both a dict and string to .format() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-27 00:14 +0000
Re: Python String Formatting - passing both a dict and string to .format() Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-11-26 17:21 -0700
Re: Python String Formatting - passing both a dict and string to .format() Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2013-11-26 16:21 -0800
| From | Victor Hooi <victorhooi@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-11-26 16:01 -0800 |
| Subject | Python String Formatting - passing both a dict and string to .format() |
| Message-ID | <fc656c78-a32b-4f85-8da6-a5c7abf1edfa@googlegroups.com> |
Hi,
I'm trying to use Python's new style string formatting with a dict and string together.
For example, I have the following dict and string variable:
my_dict = { 'cat': 'ernie', 'dog': 'spot' }
foo = 'lorem ipsum'
If I want to just use the dict, it all works fine:
'{cat} and {dog}'.format(**my_dict)
'ernie and spot'
(I'm also curious how the above ** works in this case).
However, if I try to combine them:
'{cat} and {dog}, {}'.format(**my_dict, foo)
...
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
I also tried with:
'{0['cat']} {1} {0['dog']}'.format(my_dict, foo)
...
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
However, I found that if I take out the single quotes around the keys it then works:
'{0[cat]} {1} {0[dog]}'.format(my_dict, foo)
"ernie lorem ipsum spot"
I'm curious - why does this work? Why don't the dictionary keys need quotes around them, like when you normally access a dict's elements?
Also, is this the best practice to pass both a dict and string to .format()? Or is there another way that avoids needing to use positional indices? ({0}, {1} etc.)
Cheers,
Victor
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2013-11-27 00:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52953971$0$29993$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #60554 |
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:01:48 -0800, Victor Hooi wrote:
> '{0['cat']} {1} {0['dog']}'.format(my_dict, foo) ...
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
It's a syntax error because you are using the same quotes. You have:
'{0['cat']} {1} {0['dog']}'
which is parsed as:
STR '{0['
NAME cat
STR ']} {1} {0['
NAME dog
STR ']}'
which isn't legal. You can't write:
"foo"len
either.
As for why you don't need to quote the keys inside the string format min-
language, that is how the mini-language is designed, and it is for
convenience and to avoid the sort of trouble you're having now.
> Also, is this the best practice to pass both a dict and string to
> .format()? Or is there another way that avoids needing to use positional
> indices? ({0}, {1} etc.)
I'd do it like this:
py> mydict = {'cat': 42, 'dog': 23, 'parrot': 99}
py> '{cat} and {dog}, {}'.format('aardvark', **mydict)
'42 and 23, aardvark'
--
Steven
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| From | Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-11-26 17:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.3265.1385511711.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #60554 |
On 11/26/2013 05:01 PM, Victor Hooi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to use Python's new style string formatting with a dict
> and string together.
>
> For example, I have the following dict and string variable:
>
> my_dict = { 'cat': 'ernie', 'dog': 'spot' } foo = 'lorem ipsum'
>
> If I want to just use the dict, it all works fine:
>
> '{cat} and {dog}'.format(**my_dict) 'ernie and spot'
>
> (I'm also curious how the above ** works in this case).
>
> However, if I try to combine them:
>
> '{cat} and {dog}, {}'.format(**my_dict, foo) ... SyntaxError: invalid
> syntax
This is a syntax error because of the way that the ** unpacks the
dictionary. For this not to be a syntax error, foo has to be before
my_dict. This is because in parameter passing, keyword args are always
passed last. In general I don't think you want to unpack the dictionary
in this case.
> I also tried with:
>
> '{0['cat']} {1} {0['dog']}'.format(my_dict, foo) ... SyntaxError:
> invalid syntax
This is a syntax error because the cat and dog are not valid python
keywords. A string is anything between two delimiters. So your command
looks to python like this:
'{0[' cat ']} {1} {0[' dog ']}'.format(my_dict, foo)
If you have a proper syntax-highlighting editor you'll see right away
that cat and dog are not within the string delimiters.
This would work, however:
"{0['cat']} {1} {0['dog']}".format(my_dict, foo)
> However, I found that if I take out the single quotes around the keys
> it then works:
>
> '{0[cat]} {1} {0[dog]}'.format(my_dict, foo) "ernie lorem ipsum
> spot"
>
> I'm curious - why does this work? Why don't the dictionary keys need
> quotes around them, like when you normally access a dict's elements?
I suppose it's because the string formatter simply doesn't require it.
> Also, is this the best practice to pass both a dict and string to
> .format()? Or is there another way that avoids needing to use
> positional indices? ({0}, {1} etc.)
Can't you just list them as separate arguments to format? Like you did
in your working example?
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| From | Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> |
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| Date | 2013-11-26 16:21 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.3266.1385511717.18130.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #60554 |
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On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Victor Hooi <victorhooi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to use Python's new style string formatting with a dict and
> string together.
>
> For example, I have the following dict and string variable:
>
> my_dict = { 'cat': 'ernie', 'dog': 'spot' }
> foo = 'lorem ipsum'
>
> If I want to just use the dict, it all works fine:
>
> '{cat} and {dog}'.format(**my_dict)
> 'ernie and spot'
>
> (I'm also curious how the above ** works in this case).
>
> However, if I try to combine them:
>
> '{cat} and {dog}, {}'.format(**my_dict, foo)
> ...
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>
Here you almost have it right. If you flip the arguments around to look
like:
'{cat} and {dog}, {}'.format(foo, **my_dict)
it will work as you expect.
The issue is that you cannot specify positional arguments (foo) after
keyword arguments (**my_dict).
In the code you tried, what Python is doing is:
'{cat} and {dog}, {}'.format(cat=ernie, dog=spot, foo)
which, if tried, provides the nicer error message of "SyntaxError:
non-keyword arg after keyword arg".
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