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| Started by | Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-05-16 19:33 +0000 |
| Last post | 2016-05-17 12:30 +1000 |
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Re: OT: limit number of connections from browser to my server? Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 19:33 +0000
Re: OT: limit number of connections from browser to my server? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-17 12:30 +1000
| From | Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-16 19:33 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT: limit number of connections from browser to my server? |
| Message-ID | <mailman.31.1463427306.19823.python-list@python.org> |
On 2016-05-16, Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> wrote:
> Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> This is not Python specific, though I'm turning to Python to do some
>> experimentation and to try to prototype a solution.
>>
>> Is there any way to limit the number of connections a browser uses to
>> download a web page? Browser writers seems to assume that all https
>> servers are massively parallel server farms with hardware crypto
>> support.
>>
>> So, when a browser wants to load a page that has the main html file, a
>> css file, a javascript library or two, and a few icons and background
>> bitmaps, they browser opens up a half-dozen SSL connections in
>> parallel.
>
> [brainstorm-mode on]
>
> I think HTTP/2 allows multiple requests over a single TCP connection.
HTTP 1.1 did also. And our server supports it. The problem is that
modern browsers won't wait and send requests serially over a single
connection. They try to "optimize" page load times by opening as many
connections as they cat right away and requesting everything in
parallel. When the server has a single CPU, that just wastes a lot of
time -- particulary when connections have a high per-connection
overhead like SSL does.
--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! Is this TERMINAL fun?
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2016-05-17 12:30 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <573a8261$0$1584$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #108689 |
On Tue, 17 May 2016 05:33 am, Grant Edwards wrote: > The problem is that > modern browsers won't wait and send requests serially over a single > connection. They try to "optimize" page load times by opening as many > connections as they cat right away and requesting everything in > parallel. (Even more OT for the OT discussion.) And the funny[1] thing about this is, for all these optimizations, web browsers in 2016 browsing the web in 2016 are generally *slower* than 1996 browsers browsing the web in 1996. And it has been like this for coming close to a decade now. At least two major reasons: websites are even more full of cruft than ever before, and the mobile web. http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2008/05/why_your_internet_experience_i.html http://www.wired.com/insights/2014/11/the-web-is-getting-slower/ [1] In the sense of "I must laugh or else I will cry". -- Steven
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