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Re: Bug? ( () == [] ) != ( ().__eq__([]) )

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First post2013-08-07 17:24 +0800
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  Re: Bug? ( () == [] ) != ( ().__eq__([]) ) Shiyao Ma <i@introo.me> - 2013-08-07 17:24 +0800

#52125 — Re: Bug? ( () == [] ) != ( ().__eq__([]) )

FromShiyao Ma <i@introo.me>
Date2013-08-07 17:24 +0800
SubjectRe: Bug? ( () == [] ) != ( ().__eq__([]) )
Message-ID<mailman.309.1375867466.1251.python-list@python.org>

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Sorry. I don't quite get it. As you said, it first tries,
leftOperand.__eq__(rightOperand) then if it returns NotImplemented, it goes
to invoke rightOperand.__eq__(leftOperand). But for any reason, [] == ()
returns false, why?


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Markus Rother <python@markusrother.de>
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > The following behaviour seen in 3.2 seems very strange to me:
> >
> > As expected:
> >>>> () == []
> > False
> >
> > However:
> >>>> ().__eq__([])
> > NotImplemented
> >>>> [].__eq__(())
> > NotImplemented
>
> You don't normally want to be calling dunder methods directly. The
> reasoning behind this behaviour goes back to a few things, including a
> way to handle "1 == Foo()" where Foo is a custom type that implements
> __eq__; obviously the integer 1 won't know whether it's equal to a Foo
> instance or not, so it has to defer to the second operand to get a
> result. This deferral is done by returning NotImplemented, which is an
> object, and so is true by default. I don't see any particular reason
> for it to be false, as you shouldn't normally be using it; it's more
> like a "null" state, it means "I don't know if we're equal or not". If
> neither side knows whether they're equal, then they're presumed to be
> unequal, but you can't determine that from a single call to __eq__.
>
> ChrisA
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