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  What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-21 08:39 -0800
    Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Andrea Crotti <andrea.crotti.0@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 17:12 +0000
    Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Cousin Stanley <cousinstanley@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 17:52 +0000
    Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-11-21 11:21 -0800
      Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-22 07:57 -0800
        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-11-22 10:01 -0800
          Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2011-11-23 14:16 +0200
            Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-11-23 10:21 -0800
        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-11-22 17:50 -0500
    Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-11-21 18:07 -0500
      Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-22 08:12 -0800
    Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 19:00 -0800
      Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-22 08:14 -0800
        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Andrea Crotti <andrea.crotti.0@gmail.com> - 2011-11-22 19:15 +0000
        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2011-11-23 23:15 -0700
    Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> - 2011-11-22 13:55 -0500
      Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> - 2011-11-22 14:29 -0500
        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-11-22 12:05 -0800
          Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> - 2011-11-22 22:45 -0500
            Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Sibylle Koczian <nulla.epistola@web.de> - 2011-11-23 22:13 +0100
        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-22 19:29 -0800
          Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-22 19:46 -0800
            Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-11-22 22:43 -0800
              Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-23 09:33 -0800
                Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-23 09:38 -0800
                  Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com> - 2011-11-23 18:29 +0000
                    Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-11-24 08:49 +1100
                    Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-24 13:24 -0800
                  Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> - 2011-11-23 17:29 -0500
                    Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Matt Joiner <anacrolix@gmail.com> - 2011-11-24 09:58 +1100
                    Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-24 13:18 -0800
                      Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-24 13:22 -0800
                        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Alexander Kapps <alex.kapps@web.de> - 2011-11-25 00:18 +0100
                          Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-11-25 00:16 +0000
                            Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-11-24 20:06 -0500
                              Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-11-25 04:37 +0000
                            Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-11-24 20:49 -0800
                              Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. MaxTheMouse <maxthemouse@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-25 08:31 -0800
                            Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Sibylle Koczian <nulla.epistola@web.de> - 2011-11-25 20:52 +0100
                              Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Mark Tolonen <metolone@gmail.com> - 2011-11-25 20:26 -0800
                                Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-11-25 23:13 -0800
                                  Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. MaxTheMouse <maxthemouse@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-26 08:22 -0800
                        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Alexander Kapps <alex.kapps@web.de> - 2011-11-25 00:37 +0100
                  Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-11-23 17:43 -0800
                    Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Tony the Tiger <tony@tiger.invalid> - 2011-11-24 17:25 -0600
                      Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-11-25 00:04 +0000
                        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Alexander Kapps <alex.kapps@web.de> - 2011-11-25 01:32 +0100
                        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-11-24 20:49 -0800
                        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-11-24 20:49 -0800
                        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-25 19:04 +1100
                        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Tony the Tiger <tony@tiger.invalid> - 2011-11-25 16:07 -0600
                        Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Alexander Kapps <alex.kapps@web.de> - 2011-11-26 02:34 +0100
                Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-11-23 10:21 -0800
            RE: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 withregard to IDLE. "Alemu Tadesse" <atadesse@sunedison.com> - 2011-11-23 00:48 -0600
              Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 withregard to IDLE. John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-11-23 16:08 +0000
                Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 withregard to IDLE. "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-23 09:35 -0800

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#16091

On 11/22/2011 11:29 AM, Alan Meyer wrote:
> On 11/22/2011 1:55 PM, Alan Meyer wrote:
> ...
>> 6. Select, or navigate to and select, the python IDLE interpreter.
> ...
> On my system that's
> C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe
>
> Alan
OK, I'm going to try it soon. Keeping my fingers crossed.

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#16093

On 11/22/2011 7:29 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
> On 11/22/2011 11:29 AM, Alan Meyer wrote:
>> On 11/22/2011 1:55 PM, Alan Meyer wrote:
>> ...
>>> 6. Select, or navigate to and select, the python IDLE interpreter.
>> ...
>> On my system that's
>> C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe
>>
>> Alan
> OK, I'm going to try it soon. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Well, all there was there was a README.txt file that told me the purpose 
of the folder.
"This directory exists so that 3rd party packages can be installed
here.  Read the source for site.py for more details."

Of course, Dennis'
C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe
wouldn't work either.

I did a Win 7 search Pythonwin.exe, and found nothing. However, 
sometimes that search fails even when though there is something on the 
PC that matches the search.

There is a pythonw.exe under C:\Python32.

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#16095

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:46:01 -0800, "W. eWatson"
<wolftracks@invalid.com> declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:

> 
> Of course, Dennis'
> C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe
> wouldn't work either.
>
	If you didn't install an ActiveState packaged version, nor hand
installed the win32 extension package into a Python.org installed
system, you won't have PythonWin.
 
> I did a Win 7 search Pythonwin.exe, and found nothing. However, 
> sometimes that search fails even when though there is something on the 
> PC that matches the search.
> 
> There is a pythonw.exe under C:\Python32.

	And has been mentioned at least three times in the last week --
pythonw.exe is the version of the Python interpreter that is supposed to
be the default application for .pyw files. It is the version that does
NOT open a console window for stdin/stdout (IOWs, it is meant for use by
Python scripts that use a graphical library for all I/O -- Tk, wxPython,
etc.). If you ran a graphical script using the plain python.exe it would
open a console window that would just sit there until the script exited.
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
        wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#16116

On 11/22/2011 10:43 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:46:01 -0800, "W. eWatson"
> <wolftracks@invalid.com>  declaimed the following in
> gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>>
>> Of course, Dennis'
>> C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe
>> wouldn't work either.
>>
> 	If you didn't install an ActiveState packaged version, nor hand
> installed the win32 extension package into a Python.org installed
> system, you won't have PythonWin.
>
>> I did a Win 7 search Pythonwin.exe, and found nothing. However,
>> sometimes that search fails even when though there is something on the
>> PC that matches the search.
>>
>> There is a pythonw.exe under C:\Python32.
>
> 	And has been mentioned at least three times in the last week --
> pythonw.exe is the version of the Python interpreter that is supposed to
> be the default application for .pyw files. It is the version that does
> NOT open a console window for stdin/stdout (IOWs, it is meant for use by
> Python scripts that use a graphical library for all I/O -- Tk, wxPython,
> etc.). If you ran a graphical script using the plain python.exe it would
> open a console window that would just sit there until the script exited.
Glad to hear you're keeping count. :-) I'll pin it on my wall. Don't use 
graphics.

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#16118

So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at 
an end.

It may be time to move on to c++.

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#16124

On 23 November 2011 17:38, W. eWatson <wolftracks@invalid.com> wrote:
[...]
> It may be time to move on to c++.

Good Luck.  Bye!

-- 
Arnaud

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#16130

Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com> writes:

> On 23 November 2011 17:38, W. eWatson <wolftracks@invalid.com> wrote:
> [...]
> > It may be time to move on to c++.
>
> Good Luck.  Bye!

Sadly, IME it's most often the case that the person who threatens to
leave with just about every message will instead stick around a long
time, repeating the same threats while expecting those threats to elicit
support.

-- 
 \     “It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to |
  `\    persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.” —Carl |
_o__)                                                            Sagan |
Ben Finney

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#16175

On 11/23/2011 10:29 AM, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
> On 23 November 2011 17:38, W. eWatson<wolftracks@invalid.com>  wrote:
> [...]
>> It may be time to move on to c++.
>
> Good Luck.  Bye!
>
"Wellll, pardoooon meee." -- Steve Martin

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#16131

On 11/23/2011 12:38 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
> So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at
> an end.
>
> It may be time to move on to c++.
>

C++ is a ton of fun.  You haven't lived until you've made a syntax error 
in a template instantiation and seen a hundred cascading error messages 
from included files that you didn't know you included.

Unlike Python, it really builds character.

I say, go for it!

     Alan

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#16132

Moving to C++ is _always_ a step backwards.

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 11/23/2011 12:38 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
>>
>> So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at
>> an end.
>>
>> It may be time to move on to c++.
>>
>
> C++ is a ton of fun.  You haven't lived until you've made a syntax error in
> a template instantiation and seen a hundred cascading error messages from
> included files that you didn't know you included.
>
> Unlike Python, it really builds character.
>
> I say, go for it!
>
>    Alan
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>

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#16173

On 11/23/2011 2:29 PM, Alan Meyer wrote:
> On 11/23/2011 12:38 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
>> So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at
>> an end.
>>
>> It may be time to move on to c++.
>>
>
> C++ is a ton of fun. You haven't lived until you've made a syntax error
> in a template instantiation and seen a hundred cascading error messages
> from included files that you didn't know you included.
>
> Unlike Python, it really builds character.
>
> I say, go for it!
>
> Alan
So posting the results of the adventure you put me on has no further way 
to proceed?

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#16174

Whoops, I thought I was replying to Matt Meyers just above you. However, 
I think he chimed in above about ActiveState back on the 22nd.

In any case, I think this thread has ceased to be productive.

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#16179

On 24.11.2011 22:22, W. eWatson wrote:
> Whoops, I thought I was replying to Matt Meyers just above you.

Above who? As said by somebody already, most people use a 
mail-client (Thunderbird/Outlook) or a Usenet client to read this 
forum. Google Groups is (In My Opinion at least) just crap (and 
should be blocked/forbidden. It's *the* one spam sender already)
Please always post enough context,

Now, we are talking about Python 3.2.* on Win7, correct? I only have 
Win7 32bit in a VBox VM, but still.

Please paste the following into a "python.reg", file, then 
right-click on that file and choose the fist option (the one wihch 
is in bold font, something like install/insert/insert or however 
it's called in your language. In my German versin it's called 
"Zusammenführen")

Do you get an "Edit with IDLE" then?




Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Python.File]
@="Python File"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Python.File\DefaultIcon]
@="C:\\Python32\\DLLs\\py.ico"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Python.File\shell]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Python.File\shell\Edit with IDLE]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Python.File\shell\Edit with IDLE\command]
@="\"C:\\Python32\\pythonw.exe\" 
\"C:\\Python32\\Lib\\idlelib\\idle.pyw\" -e \"%1\""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Python.File\shell\open]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Python.File\shell\open\command]
@="\"C:\\Python32\\python.exe\" \"%1\" %*"

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#16183

On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:18:44 +0100, Alexander Kapps wrote:

> Now, we are talking about Python 3.2.* on Win7, correct? I only have
> Win7 32bit in a VBox VM, but still.

I believe that W. eWatson's problems occurred when he installed a 32-bit 
version of Python 3.2 on a 64-bit version of Windows 7. Either the 32-bit 
installer doesn't set the default file associations correctly on 64-bit 
systems, or W. eWatson has mangled his registry by making arbitrary 
changes to file associations, and now even the correct 64-bit installer 
can't set the associations correctly.

As far as I can tell, nobody running the 64-bit version of Windows 7 has 
chimed in to either confirm or refute W. eWatson's claim that IDLE 
doesn't show up, so we have no way of telling whether it doesn't show up 
due to a lack in the installer, or because eWatson has (slightly) broken 
his system and has inadvertently prevented it from showing up.

Fixing the associations is a Windows issue, not a Python issue. Even if 
it turns out that the installer does neglect to set up menu commands for 
IDLE (which should be reported as a feature request on the bug tracker), 
this is not a problem best solved here, although we can do our best. It 
would be best solved on a Window forum, where experts on Windows can give 
advice.


-- 
Steven

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#16186

On 11/24/2011 7:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

> As far as I can tell, nobody running the 64-bit version of Windows 7 has
> chimed in to either confirm or refute W. eWatson's claim that IDLE
> doesn't show up,

On the contrary, back when he first posted, I stated that 64-bit Python 
3.2.2 on my 64-bit Windows 7 works fine, just as he wants it to.

> so we have no way of telling whether it doesn't show up
> due to a lack in the installer, or because eWatson has (slightly) broken
> his system and has inadvertently prevented it from showing up.

I also noted that I had slightly screwed up my previous machine, and the 
installers never fixed up the deviation. So I gave him a better 
alternative that I use. He has ignored that and most everything else I 
posted.

When he later revealed that IDLE does not run by any means, that he 
should fix *that* before worrying about right-clicks.

> Fixing the associations is a Windows issue, not a Python issue. Even if
> it turns out that the installer does neglect to set up menu commands for
> IDLE (which should be reported as a feature request on the bug tracker),

The installer for each version has been setting up commands for IDLE for 
perhaps a decade or more.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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#16196

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:06:24 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:

> On 11/24/2011 7:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> 
>> As far as I can tell, nobody running the 64-bit version of Windows 7
>> has chimed in to either confirm or refute W. eWatson's claim that IDLE
>> doesn't show up,
> 
> On the contrary, back when he first posted, I stated that 64-bit Python
> 3.2.2 on my 64-bit Windows 7 works fine, just as he wants it to.

Ah, sorry about that Terry! This thread, or multiple threads, is long and 
confusing and I obviously haven't been able to keep track of who said 
what.



-- 
Steven

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#16198

On 25 Nov 2011 00:16:06 GMT, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:

> As far as I can tell, nobody running the 64-bit version of Windows 7 has 
> chimed in to either confirm or refute W. eWatson's claim that IDLE 
> doesn't show up, so we have no way of telling whether it doesn't show up 
> due to a lack in the installer, or because eWatson has (slightly) broken 
> his system and has inadvertently prevented it from showing up.
>
	I have both 64 and 32 bit versions of the ActiveState Python
installed on a rather new Win7 laptop.

	This laptop is the ONLY machine I have that even has an IDLE
shortcut in the "start/all programs/<relevant Python entry>". Neither of
my WinXP machines have IDLE shortcuts /anywhere/ -- much less on a
right-click menu (except for the short test I did earlier when I created
an "edit with IDLE" entry using the WinXP file-types modification
capability -- which doesn't seem to exist in Win7).

	Oh, and the shortcuts DO work on that machine. Python 2.7 (my XP
machines still have Python 2.5 variants)

	My following comments will be rather blunt, but from what I've seen
(over a few years now), Monsieur Watson is completely uninterested in
learning any features of the operating system in which he is working...
If /anything/ doesn't work as he expects, it is a fault to be fixed,
unpaid, by someone on a public forum, and fixed in a form that requires
minimal effort on his part. Any IT support tech could create the needed
shortcuts and menu entries in under 10 minutes -- but that would require
confessing that one may be incompetent WRT the basic features of the OS
they are using.

	In contrast, I've been tweaking the registry since Win95 days -- I
don't understand those nasty "GUID" entries, but finding blatant
left-over garbage from uninstalled software tends to be easy (sometimes
I've even done the work to trace GUID referenced by the left-overs)

	How any prior installation had an "edit with IDLE" context menu is
beyond me -- I've never seen one before that wasn't created by hand. Of
course, all my Windows systems have used the ActiveState packaging;
maybe python.org installers do things differently.
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
        wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#16231

On Nov 24, 10:49 pm, Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> On 25 Nov 2011 00:16:06 GMT, Steven D'Aprano
> <steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> declaimed the following in
> gmane.comp.python.general:
>
> > As far as I can tell, nobody running the 64-bit version of Windows 7 has
> > chimed in to either confirm or refute W. eWatson's claim that IDLE
> > doesn't show up, so we have no way of telling whether it doesn't show up
> > due to a lack in the installer, or because eWatson has (slightly) broken
> > his system and has inadvertently prevented it from showing up.
>

I guess I will put in my 2 cents. I installed EPD from Enthought on 64
bit Win 7 Enterprise. Both 32 bit and 64 versions resulted in having
"Edit with Idle" when I right-click on a file. I don't have system
administration privileges on this machine so I have no idea how the
installer did it.

Cheers,
Adam

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#16237

Am 25.11.2011 01:16, schrieb Steven D'Aprano:
>
> As far as I can tell, nobody running the 64-bit version of Windows 7 has
> chimed in to either confirm or refute W. eWatson's claim that IDLE
> doesn't show up, so we have no way of telling whether it doesn't show up
> due to a lack in the installer, or because eWatson has (slightly) broken
> his system and has inadvertently prevented it from showing up.
>
I'm using Python 3.2.2 on Windows 7, 64 bit, and I get "Edit with IDLE" 
and "Edit with PythonWin" in my context menu. I installed Python from 
the Python.org site, the Windows extensions from Sourceforge, both of 
them for all users and without any changes to the standard installation 
or to file associations.

This isn't the first Python 3 version on this machine, I don't know if 
that might be relevant.

But it's a fact that changing the applications shown in the context menu 
for a file association isn't obvious any more on Windows 7.

HTH
Sibylle

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On Nov 25, 11:52 am, Sibylle Koczian <nulla.epist...@web.de> wrote:
> Am 25.11.2011 01:16, schrieb Steven D'Aprano:
>
> > As far as I can tell, nobody running the 64-bit version of Windows 7 has
> > chimed in to either confirm or refute W. eWatson's claim that IDLE
> > doesn't show up, so we have no way of telling whether it doesn't show up
> > due to a lack in the installer, or because eWatson has (slightly) broken
> > his system and has inadvertently prevented it from showing up.
>
> I'm using Python 3.2.2 on Windows 7, 64 bit, and I get "Edit with IDLE"
> and "Edit with PythonWin" in my context menu. I installed Python from
> the Python.org site, the Windows extensions from Sourceforge, both of
> them for all users and without any changes to the standard installation
> or to file associations.
>
> This isn't the first Python 3 version on this machine, I don't know if
> that might be relevant.
>
> But it's a fact that changing the applications shown in the context menu
> for a file association isn't obvious any more on Windows 7.
>
> HTH
> Sibylle

I'm also using Python 2.7 and Python 3.3 on Windows 7, 64-bit, and
have both "Edit" menu items as well.

Changing the application defaults is now in "Default Programs" right
on the Start Menu.  It's more "obvious" than the old location, but the
old location is just known by more people and Microsoft loves to move
things around.

-Mark

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