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If you continue being rude i will continue doing this

Started byFerrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
First post2013-11-17 14:31 -0800
Last post2013-11-18 06:15 -0800
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  If you continue being rude i will continue doing this Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-17 14:31 -0800
    Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this YBM <ybmess@nooos.fr.invalid> - 2013-11-18 10:31 +0100
      Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-18 03:13 -0800
        Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org> - 2013-11-18 10:24 -0400
          Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this Ferrous Cranus <ferrousferocious@gmail.com> - 2013-11-18 08:15 -0800
            Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-11-19 10:30 +1000
          Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-11-18 08:31 -0800
            Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-20 03:55 -0800
          Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-20 03:57 -0800
        Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2013-11-19 19:19 +1300
      Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-11-18 13:26 +0100
        Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-18 06:15 -0800

#59810 — If you continue being rude i will continue doing this

FromFerrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-17 14:31 -0800
SubjectIf you continue being rude i will continue doing this
Message-ID<5fa4e0b3-70c0-4ac6-b846-2d9a936d21d4@googlegroups.com>
====================================================== 
root@secure [~/distribute-0.6.49]# pip install pygeoip 
Downloading/unpacking pygeoip 
Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97kB): 97kB downloaded 
Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip 
Traceback (most recent call last): 
File "<string>", line 16, in <module> 
File "/usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py", line 26, in decode 
return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0] 
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 
1098: ordinal not in range(128) 
Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info: 
Traceback (most recent call last): 

File "<string>", line 16, in <module> 

File "/usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py", line 26, in decode 

return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0] 

UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 
1098: ordinal not in range(128) 
====================================================== 
-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined! 


====================================================== 
root@secure [~/distribute-0.6.49]# pip install pygeoip 
Downloading/unpacking pygeoip 
Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97kB): 97kB downloaded 
Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip 
Traceback (most recent call last): 
File "<string>", line 16, in <module> 
File "/usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py", line 26, in decode 
return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0] 
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 
1098: ordinal not in range(128) 
Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info: 
Traceback (most recent call last): 

File "<string>", line 16, in <module> 

File "/usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py", line 26, in decode 

return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0] 

UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 
1098: ordinal not in range(128) 
====================================================== 
-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined! 


====================================================== 
root@secure [~/distribute-0.6.49]# pip install pygeoip 
Downloading/unpacking pygeoip 
Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97kB): 97kB downloaded 
Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip 
Traceback (most recent call last): 
File "<string>", line 16, in <module> 
File "/usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py", line 26, in decode 
return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0] 
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 
1098: ordinal not in range(128) 
Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info: 
Traceback (most recent call last): 

File "<string>", line 16, in <module> 

File "/usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py", line 26, in decode 

return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0] 

UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 
1098: ordinal not in range(128) 
====================================================== 
-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined! 

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#59842

FromYBM <ybmess@nooos.fr.invalid>
Date2013-11-18 10:31 +0100
Message-ID<5289de86$0$3625$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#59810
You are the one being rude, Nikos.

Moreover you are a nut, installing pygeoip works fine
for me:

# pip install pygeoip
Downloading/unpacking pygeoip
   Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97Kb): 97Kb downloaded
   Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip

Installing collected packages: pygeoip
   Running setup.py install for pygeoip

Successfully installed pygeoip
Cleaning up...

you've probably completely messed up your system, as you
are completely incompetent as a UNIX/Linux admin and broke
your system.



Le 17/11/2013 23:31, Ferrous Cranus a écrit :
> ======================================================
> root@secure [~/distribute-0.6.49]# pip install pygeoip
> Downloading/unpacking pygeoip
> Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97kB): 97kB downloaded
> Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "<string>", line 16, in <module>
> File "/usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py", line 26, in decode
> return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0]
> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position
> 1098: ordinal not in range(128)
> Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info:
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>
> File "<string>", line 16, in <module>
>
> File "/usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py", line 26, in decode
>
> return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0]
>
> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position
> 1098: ordinal not in range(128)
> ======================================================
>

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#59850

FromFerrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-18 03:13 -0800
Message-ID<f7e7232b-f508-46e8-bda2-0e6ffcd5f6f7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#59842
Τη Δευτέρα, 18 Νοεμβρίου 2013 11:31:50 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης YBM έγραψε:
> You are the one being rude, Nikos.
> 
> 
> 
> Moreover you are a nut, installing pygeoip works fine
> 
> for me:
> 
> 
> 
> # pip install pygeoip
> 
> Downloading/unpacking pygeoip
> 
>    Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97Kb): 97Kb downloaded
> 
>    Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip
> 
> 
> 
> Installing collected packages: pygeoip
> 
>    Running setup.py install for pygeoip

> Successfully installed pygeoip 
> Cleaning up...

> you've probably completely messed up your system, as you 
> are completely incompetent as a UNIX/Linux admin and broke
> your system.



No i haven't broke it at all.
Everything work as they should.

The refusal of 'pygeoip' to install turned out to be the local setting in my new VPS.

So i have changes it to:

export LANG = en_US.UTF-8

and then 'pip install pygeoip' was successful. 

Trying to figure out how to install-setup EPEL repository along with python3 && python3-pip and 2 extra modules my script needed in my new VPS have costed 4-5 of my life and of my mental health, while if you just helped a bit these would have been done in a couple of hours.

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#59871

FromPiet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org>
Date2013-11-18 10:24 -0400
Message-ID<m2zjp1dbyi.fsf@cochabamba.vanoostrum.org>
In reply to#59850
Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> writes:

> No i haven't broke it at all.
> Everything work as they should.
>
> The refusal of 'pygeoip' to install turned out to be the local setting in my new VPS.
>
> So i have changes it to:
>
> export LANG = en_US.UTF-8
>
> and then 'pip install pygeoip' was successful. 
>
> Trying to figure out how to install-setup EPEL repository along with
> python3 && python3-pip and 2 extra modules my script needed in my new
> VPS have costed 4-5 of my life and of my mental health, while if you
> just helped a bit these would have been done in a couple of hours.

How could anyone have known that this was the problem? AFIAK you didn't even tell about the VPS. And moreover this wasn't a Python problem, so off topic here.
-- 
Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org>
WWW: http://pietvanoostrum.com/
PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]

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#59882

FromFerrous Cranus <ferrousferocious@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-18 08:15 -0800
Message-ID<32be7c6a-8e6d-4e2e-ab3b-2494020d3b4f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#59871
Τη Δευτέρα, 18 Νοεμβρίου 2013 4:24:53 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Piet van Oostrum έγραψε:
> Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 
> 
> > No i haven't broke it at all.
> 
> > Everything work as they should.
> 
> >
> 
> > The refusal of 'pygeoip' to install turned out to be the local setting in my new VPS.
> 
> >
> 
> > So i have changes it to:
> 
> >
> 
> > export LANG = en_US.UTF-8
> 
> >
> 
> > and then 'pip install pygeoip' was successful. 
> 
> >
> 
> > Trying to figure out how to install-setup EPEL repository along with
> 
> > python3 && python3-pip and 2 extra modules my script needed in my new
> 
> > VPS have costed 4-5 of my life and of my mental health, while if you
> 
> > just helped a bit these would have been done in a couple of hours.
> 
> 
> 
> How could anyone have known that this was the problem? AFIAK you didn't even tell about the VPS. And moreover this wasn't a Python problem, so off topic here.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org>
> 
> WWW: http://pietvanoostrum.com/
> 
> PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]

I specifically asked fore help and have showed what i ahve tried so far.

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#59927

Fromalex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-19 10:30 +1000
Message-ID<l6ebf1$i1v$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#59882
On 19/11/2013 2:15 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
[...]

Any chance you could stop acting like a troll and generating new email 
addresses in an apparent attempt to get around people's filters?

You claim you're acting in good faith, so stop appearing to do otherwise.

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#59883

Fromrurpy@yahoo.com
Date2013-11-18 08:31 -0800
Message-ID<4ca06869-1985-4919-9dc4-7ba597213744@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#59871
On Monday, November 18, 2013 7:24:53 AM UTC-7, Piet van Oostrum wrote:
> Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> writes:
> > No i haven't broke it at all.
> > Everything work as they should.
> > The refusal of 'pygeoip' to install turned out to be the local setting in my new VPS.
> > So i have changes it to:
> > export LANG = en_US.UTF-8
> > and then 'pip install pygeoip' was successful. 
> > Trying to figure out how to install-setup EPEL repository along with> 
> > python3 && python3-pip and 2 extra modules my script needed in my new
> > VPS have costed 4-5 of my life and of my mental health, while if you
> > just helped a bit these would have been done in a couple of hours.
> 
> How could anyone have known that this was the problem? AFIAK you
> didn't even tell about the VPS. And moreover this wasn't a Python
> problem, so off topic here.

It was an obscure error message produced by a python installer
when trying to install a python package.  It certainly is on topic. 

Please don't set up different standards for posters you don't
like -- others who don't know better might understandably think
they apply to everyone.

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#60073

FromFerrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-20 03:55 -0800
Message-ID<4c908613-b19e-4650-87f9-13f59e391378@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#59883
Thank you rurpy.

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#60074

FromFerrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-20 03:57 -0800
Message-ID<78778cb2-da14-406b-b5cd-1eae7aa0fafb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#59871
Τη Δευτέρα, 18 Νοεμβρίου 2013 4:24:53 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Piet van Oostrum έγραψε:
> Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 
> 
> > No i haven't broke it at all.
> 
> > Everything work as they should.
> 
> >
> 
> > The refusal of 'pygeoip' to install turned out to be the local setting in my new VPS.
> 
> >
> 
> > So i have changes it to:
> 
> >
> 
> > export LANG = en_US.UTF-8
> 
> >
> 
> > and then 'pip install pygeoip' was successful. 
> 
> >
> 
> > Trying to figure out how to install-setup EPEL repository along with
> 
> > python3 && python3-pip and 2 extra modules my script needed in my new
> 
> > VPS have costed 4-5 of my life and of my mental health, while if you
> 
> > just helped a bit these would have been done in a couple of hours.
> 
> 
> 
> How could anyone have known that this was the problem? AFIAK you didn't even tell about the VPS. And moreover this wasn't a Python problem, so off topic here.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org>
> 
> WWW: http://pietvanoostrum.com/
> 
> PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]

I had specified that i was using CentOS 6.4 and described the problem i had with installing python and pip and 2 modules.

I received no help at all.

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#59949

FromGregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz>
Date2013-11-19 19:19 +1300
Message-ID<bf0e7qFbeu8U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#59850
Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> Trying to figure out how to install-setup EPEL repository along with python3 &&
> python3-pip and 2 extra modules my script needed in my new VPS have costed 4-5
> of my life and of my mental health, while if you just helped a bit these would
> have been done in a couple of hours.

That's by no means certain. Often, problems like that can
only be solved by someone sitting in front of the system
in question and poking around in it.

Debugging obscure problems remotely via usenet is extremely
difficult, and it's even more difficult if the question
essentially just consists of "This doesn't work, please
help me!".

If you don't get a response to a question like that, it's
not because people are refusing to help. It's because
nobody happens to have seen that exact set of symptoms
before, so without further information, they *can't*
help.

-- 
Greg

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#59867

FromAntoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be>
Date2013-11-18 13:26 +0100
Message-ID<mailman.2845.1384782314.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#59842
Please try to restrain yourself.

I understand the urge to vent your frustration but it will
accomplish nothing. We are all frustrated by Nikos's behaviour
but we all rely on each other not to increase that frustration
through responding to his threads and thus prolonging their
duration.

-- 
Antoon Pardon

Op 18-11-13 10:31, YBM schreef:
> You are the one being rude, Nikos.
> 
> Moreover you are a nut, installing pygeoip works fine
> for me:
> 
> # pip install pygeoip
> Downloading/unpacking pygeoip
>   Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97Kb): 97Kb downloaded
>   Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip
> 
> Installing collected packages: pygeoip
>   Running setup.py install for pygeoip
> 
> Successfully installed pygeoip
> Cleaning up...
> 
> you've probably completely messed up your system, as you
> are completely incompetent as a UNIX/Linux admin and broke
> your system.
> 
> 
> 
> Le 17/11/2013 23:31, Ferrous Cranus a écrit :
>> ======================================================
>> root@secure [~/distribute-0.6.49]# pip install pygeoip
>> Downloading/unpacking pygeoip
>> Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97kB): 97kB downloaded
>> Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> File "<string>", line 16, in <module>
>> File "/usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py", line 26, in decode
>> return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0]
>> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position
>> 1098: ordinal not in range(128)
>> Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info:
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>
>> File "<string>", line 16, in <module>
>>
>> File "/usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py", line 26, in decode
>>
>> return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0]
>>
>> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position
>> 1098: ordinal not in range(128)
>> ======================================================
>>
> 

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#59870

FromFerrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-18 06:15 -0800
Message-ID<242e52a9-c852-467e-880c-973ea5049acd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#59867
All these wouldn't happen if you have helped me.

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