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Python Magazine

Started byDRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com>
First post2013-05-24 20:19 -0700
Last post2013-05-25 16:56 +0200
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  Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 20:19 -0700
    Re: Python Magazine Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-24 23:35 -0400
      Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 20:38 -0700
      Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-25 13:48 +1000
        Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 21:11 -0700
        Re: Python Magazine zoom <zoom@yahoo.com> - 2013-05-25 08:38 +0200
          Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-25 16:41 +1000
            Re: Python Magazine Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-05-25 14:29 +0000
              Re: Python Magazine Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-25 11:30 -0400
                Re: Python Magazine John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-05-25 18:28 -0700
                  Re: Python Magazine Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-25 21:54 -0400
                    Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 11:58 +1000
                      Re: Python Magazine Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-05-26 04:03 +0000
                        Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 14:37 +1000
                    Re: Python Magazine John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-05-25 20:04 -0700
                      Re: Python Magazine Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-25 23:24 -0400
                      Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 13:45 +1000
                      RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-26 07:01 +0300
                      Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 14:31 +1000
                      RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-26 08:00 +0300
                      Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 15:17 +1000
                        Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-05-31 04:11 -0700
                          RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-01 11:15 +0300
                            Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 00:37 -0700
                              RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-05 15:20 +0300
                                Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 09:17 -0700
                                  Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 03:52 +1000
                                    Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 22:01 -0700
                    Re: Python Magazine Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-05-26 04:20 +0100
                    Re: Python Magazine Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-05-26 03:50 +0000
                      Re: Python Magazine 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2013-06-01 08:08 -0700
    Re: Python Magazine Mark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 20:38 -0700
      Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 20:41 -0700
    RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-25 06:43 +0300
      Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 21:10 -0700
        RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-25 07:22 +0300
        Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-25 14:25 +1000
          Re: Python Magazine Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-25 11:24 -0400
            Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 01:30 +1000
            RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-25 20:28 +0300
    Re: Python Magazine Michael Poeltl <michael.poeltl@univie.ac.at> - 2013-05-25 07:29 +0200
    Re: Python Magazine Daniel <danielrr2@gmail.com> - 2013-05-25 16:56 +0200

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#46050

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2013-05-26 15:17 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.2167.1369545433.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#46029
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Carlos Nepomuceno
<carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> wrote:
> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 14:31:57 +1000
>> Subject: Re: Python Magazine
>> From: rosuav@gmail.com
>> To: python-list@python.org
> [...]
>> I expect that IP blocks will be upgraded to /64 block blocks, if that
>> starts being a problem. But it often won't, and specific IP address
>> blocks will still be the norm.
>>
>> ChrisA
>
>
> Blocking a whole network (/65) is totally undesirable and may even become illegal.

Blocking a /64 is exactly the same as blocking a /32 with NAT behind
it. And how could it be illegal? I provide service to those I choose
to provide to.

> Currently it may not only happen at the target of the DDoS attack, but be spread all over the internet where block lists are enforced.
>
> I don't expect that to happen and if it happens I'm surely in favor of protection against this type of 'solution' because it will block not only malicious clients but potentially many other legitimate clients.

Banning a wide netblock is of course going to lock out legit clients.
But IP rotation means that can happen anyway. You block a single IPv4
address that right now represents an abusive user; that user
disconnects and reconnects, gets a new IP, and someone else gets the
other one. Can happen all too easily. That's why IP-banning is at best
a temporary solution anyway.

ChrisA

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#46594

FromDRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com>
Date2013-05-31 04:11 -0700
Message-ID<29be50bf-b77c-4450-9d7c-026bfaf7fe89@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#46050
Hello all,
    Was busy with work. Finally finished the job of registering the domain name.
Will be live soon. The url is http://pythonmagazine.org. Hope we will be live soon.
Regards,
DRJ.

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#46655

FromCarlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com>
Date2013-06-01 11:15 +0300
Message-ID<mailman.2523.1370074574.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#46594
----------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 04:11:06 -0700
> Subject: Re: Python Magazine
> From: rama29065@gmail.com
> To: python-list@python.org
>
> Hello all,
> Was busy with work. Finally finished the job of registering the domain name.
> Will be live soon. The url is http://pythonmagazine.org. Hope we will be live soon.
> Regards,
> DRJ.
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Nice! Wish you luck!

Do you have sponsors? Advertisers? What's the plan? 		 	   		  

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#47030

FromDRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-05 00:37 -0700
Message-ID<93c0dff4-6d63-4e7d-981f-e3bff9dddae9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#46655
On Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:45:06 PM UTC+5:30, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:

> Nice! Wish you luck!
> 
> Do you have sponsors? Advertisers? What's the plan?
Thanks Carlos,
    Right now we haven't engaged with sponsors or advertisers. Thinking whether to have a community magazine or go with the same way as previous ones some sort of commercialization.

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#47075

FromCarlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com>
Date2013-06-05 15:20 +0300
Message-ID<mailman.2727.1370434893.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#47030

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> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 00:37:53 -0700
> Subject: Re: Python Magazine
> From: rama29065@gmail.com
[...]
> > Do you have sponsors? Advertisers? What's the plan?
> Thanks Carlos,
>     Right now we haven't engaged with sponsors or advertisers. Thinking whether to have a community magazine or go with the same way as previous ones some sort of commercialization.

Do you have other magazines? Which ones? How are you going to supply contents?
 		 	   		  

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#47103

FromDRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-05 09:17 -0700
Message-ID<be7b433a-9c3c-44ea-8fcf-ac39f3e40af2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#47075
> Do you have other magazines? Which ones? How are you going to supply contents?

We don't have other magazines. I was referring to old python magazines which terminated now. Portable documents(PDF , EPUB or MOBI) for now is being planned.
Regards,
DRJ.

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#47123

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-06 03:52 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.2751.1370454743.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#47103
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:17 AM, DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you have other magazines? Which ones? How are you going to supply contents?
>
> We don't have other magazines. I was referring to old python magazines which terminated now. Portable documents(PDF , EPUB or MOBI) for now is being planned.

The real problem is the ongoing supply of content. If you can publish
on a regular schedule (weekly?) with interesting content, you'll have
a highly successful magazine... but if you have to provide all that
content yourself, you'll burn out. Try to line up a couple of backup
writers or columnists to help out - and no, I'm not offering, I have
way too much happening already :) Though the number of words I've
typed into python-list today would probably be enough for a month's
worth of newsletters...

Let's have more of these threads that are actually Python-related!

ChrisA

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#47189

FromDRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-05 22:01 -0700
Message-ID<95f13512-877b-4171-b255-d1ff5c02b35a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#47123
> The real problem is the ongoing supply of content. If you can publish
> 
> on a regular schedule (weekly?) with interesting content, you'll have
> 
> a highly successful magazine... but if you have to provide all that
> 
> content yourself, you'll burn out. Try to line up a couple of backup
> 
> writers or columnists to help out - and no, I'm not offering, I have
> 
> way too much happening already :) Though the number of words I've
> 
> typed into python-list today would probably be enough for a month's
> 
> worth of newsletters...
> 
> 
> 
> Let's have more of these threads that are actually Python-related!
> 
> 
> 
> ChrisA

Dear ChrisA,
    Currently we are a team of three. We are planning to have contect categorized into topics like
☺ Some application made of python(command line program or a GUI program) that we make using a python module(planning to cover as many modules as possible) ie; of included batteries of python.
☺ Python in Security ie; Some scripts that we can write in python like a dictionary attack tool
☺ One for covering Tkinter.
☺ One small Game using python.
☺ Python Facts,Python Quotes, Python PersonalitY (a python personnel bio or an interview), Python video(about a python video from Python Conferences)
☺ Python articles Guest as well as our own.
☺ Python Tutorials.
☺ Python Place( A place where python is being used for production).
☺ If we are not overloading magazine we would also cover about Python tools like say Ninja-IDE(an IDE for Python extensively written in Python).
    After a few days we are planning to cover
☺ Python in cloud.(Open Stack)
☺ Network Programming.(probably Twisted framework)
☺ Database programming with SQLite.
☺ Python Puzzles(some programming Questions).
☺ Python Webframework probably Django.
    We welcome further suggestions from the community.
Regards,
DRJ and Team.

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#46033

FromMark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2013-05-26 04:20 +0100
Message-ID<mailman.2156.1369538706.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#46027
On 26/05/2013 02:58, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
>> In article <7cd17be8-d455-4db8-b8d0-ccc757db5cff@googlegroups.com>,
>>   John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, May 25, 2013 8:30:19 AM UTC-7, Roy Smith wrote:
>>>>  From my phone, I
>>>> can call any other phone anywhere in the world.  But I can't talk
>>>> directly to the file server in my neighbor's house across the street?
>>>
>>> Hmmm... I've been an advocate of IPv6, but... now you've got me thinking of
>>> what Iran's new cadre of hackers might do with it!  :^)
>>
>> You (like many people) are confusing universal addressability with
>> universal connectivity.  The converse of that is people confusing NAT
>> with security.
>>
>> Of course not every IPv6 endpoint will be able to talk to every other
>> IPv6 endpoint, even if the both have globally unique addresses.  But,
>> the access controls will be implemented in firewalls with appropriately
>> coded security policies.  Not as an accident of being behind a NAT box.
>
> To be more specific: The control of who can talk to whom is in the
> hands of the admins of the two endpoints and the nodes in between,
> rather than being arbitrarily in the hands of the technology. So I
> would be able to talk to the file server across the street, but only
> IF its admin lets me.
>
> ChrisA
>

By such means as leaving the top level admin password set to the factory 
default? :)

-- 
If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this 
http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython.

Mark Lawrence

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#46036

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
Date2013-05-26 03:50 +0000
Message-ID<51a18686$0$30002$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#46027
On Sat, 25 May 2013 21:54:43 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:

> Of course not every IPv6 endpoint will be able to talk to every other
> IPv6 endpoint, even if the both have globally unique addresses.  But,
> the access controls will be implemented in firewalls with appropriately
> coded security policies.

Or, more likely, *not* implemented in firewalls with *inappropriately* 
coded security policies.



-- 
Steven

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#46665

From88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-01 08:08 -0700
Message-ID<d7bbb635-0635-47cb-be2f-11ee305c0e5d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#46036
Steven D'Aprano於 2013年5月26日星期日UTC+8上午11時50分31秒寫道:
> On Sat, 25 May 2013 21:54:43 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Of course not every IPv6 endpoint will be able to talk to every other
> 
> > IPv6 endpoint, even if the both have globally unique addresses.  But,
> 
> > the access controls will be implemented in firewalls with appropriately
> 
> > coded security policies.
> 
> 
> 
> Or, more likely, *not* implemented in firewalls with *inappropriately* 
> 
> coded security policies.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Steven

Well, both the  reliabl tcpip socket and the unstable udp socket 
are supported in Python. 

Aso the html and xml part is supported for the  dirct web page content analysis through port 80.

I am not sure whether  Steven is interested in
the web applictions. 

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#45948

FromMark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com>
Date2013-05-24 20:38 -0700
Message-ID<mailman.2100.1369453117.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#45944
I always liked the daily Python-URL from Dr. Dobbs.

Summaries of salient discussions on python-dev, ideas, list.

interviews with devs on philosophies.

quote of the week

--m

On 5/24/13, DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> wrote:
> Planning to start a python online chronicle.What you want to see in it. :)
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>


-- 
MarkJ
Tacoma, Washington

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#45950

FromDRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com>
Date2013-05-24 20:41 -0700
Message-ID<1db38d4f-55a3-41c5-9f72-194458f90f9f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#45948
On Saturday, May 25, 2013 9:08:28 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
> I always liked the daily Python-URL from Dr. Dobbs.
 
> quote of the week

Thanks zipher we have already planned to continue Python-URL and quote of the week.
We will plan for other things that you have mentioned.
Thanks again :)

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#45951

FromCarlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com>
Date2013-05-25 06:43 +0300
Message-ID<mailman.2101.1369453439.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#45944
In-depth articles about Python! Like security analisys of modules, packages, frameworks, everything Python related.

Performance benchmarks. How a Python technology/solution compares to other competitor technologies.

Python competitions/contests/challenges!


----------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 20:38:28 -0700
> Subject: Re: Python Magazine
> From: dreamingforward@gmail.com
> To: rama29065@gmail.com
> CC: python-list@python.org
>
> I always liked the daily Python-URL from Dr. Dobbs.
>
> Summaries of salient discussions on python-dev, ideas, list.
>
> interviews with devs on philosophies.
>
> quote of the week
>
> --m
>
> On 5/24/13, DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Planning to start a python online chronicle.What you want to see in it. :)
>> --
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>>
>
>
> --
> MarkJ
> Tacoma, Washington
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list 		 	   		  

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#45956

FromDRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com>
Date2013-05-24 21:10 -0700
Message-ID<bab8868b-b5e2-472f-8d55-ccaee5bce1ce@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#45951
On Saturday, May 25, 2013 9:13:56 AM UTC+5:30, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
> In-depth articles about Python! Like security analisys of modules, packages, frameworks, everything Python related.
> 
> Performance benchmarks. How a Python technology/solution compares to other competitor technologies.
> 
> Python competitions/contests/challenges!

Thankyou for your suggestions. :)

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#45959

FromCarlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com>
Date2013-05-25 07:22 +0300
Message-ID<mailman.2107.1369455774.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#45956
----------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 21:10:02 -0700
> Subject: Re: Python Magazine
> From: rama29065@gmail.com
> To: python-list@python.org
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2013 9:13:56 AM UTC+5:30, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
>> In-depth articles about Python! Like security analisys of modules, packages, frameworks, everything Python related.
>>
>> Performance benchmarks. How a Python technology/solution compares to other competitor technologies.
>>
>> Python competitions/contests/challenges!
>
> Thankyou for your suggestions. :)
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Also, comparison of Python flavors (CPython, PyPy, Cython, Stackles, etc.) -- How do they differ? What's the benefits and hindrances? 		 	   		  

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#45960

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2013-05-25 14:25 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.2108.1369455962.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#45956
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Carlos Nepomuceno
<carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> wrote:
> Also, comparison of Python flavors (CPython, PyPy, Cython, Stackles, etc.) -- How do they differ? What's the benefits and hindrances?

Good point. Could go even more general than that: Just highlight some
lesser-known Python and show it off.

ChrisA

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#46002

FromRoy Smith <roy@panix.com>
Date2013-05-25 11:24 -0400
Message-ID<roy-D5BD61.11240325052013@news.panix.com>
In reply to#45960
In article <mailman.2108.1369455962.3114.python-list@python.org>,
 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Also, comparison of Python flavors (CPython, PyPy, Cython, Stackles, etc.) 

Stackles?  That sounds like breakfast cereal.

"New all-natural stackles, with 12 essential vitamins, plus fiber!"

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#46004

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2013-05-26 01:30 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.2136.1369495860.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#46002
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <mailman.2108.1369455962.3114.python-list@python.org>,
>  Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Also, comparison of Python flavors (CPython, PyPy, Cython, Stackles, etc.)
>
> Stackles?  That sounds like breakfast cereal.
>
> "New all-natural stackles, with 12 essential vitamins, plus fiber!"

Heh!! But watch the citations please, I didn't say that - my email was
quoting Carlos.

ChrisA

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#46013

FromCarlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com>
Date2013-05-25 20:28 +0300
Message-ID<mailman.2144.1369502895.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#46002
----------------------------------------
> From: roy@panix.com
> Subject: Re: Python Magazine
> Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 11:24:03 -0400
> To: python-list@python.org
>
> In article <mailman.2108.1369455962.3114.python-list@python.org>,
> Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Also, comparison of Python flavors (CPython, PyPy, Cython, Stackles, etc.)
>
> Stackles? That sounds like breakfast cereal.
>
> "New all-natural stackles, with 12 essential vitamins, plus fiber!"
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

lol pardon my typo! I'm really considering that cereal! lol 		 	   		  

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