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  New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 10:13 +0300
    Re: New VPS Provider needed Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 17:17 +1000
    Re: New VPS Provider needed Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 18:12 +1000
      Re: New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 11:45 +0300
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 19:06 +1000
          Re: New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 12:32 +0300
            Re: New VPS Provider needed Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 19:38 +1000
              Re: New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 13:00 +0300
                Re: New VPS Provider needed Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-08-27 12:26 +0200
                  Re: New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 13:37 +0300
            Re: New VPS Provider needed Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 05:50 -0400
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-27 14:25 +0000
          Re: New VPS Provider needed Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-08-28 00:41 +1000
            Re: New VPS Provider needed Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-27 16:18 +0000
              Re: New VPS Provider needed Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-08-27 18:46 +0000
                Re: New VPS Provider needed Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-08-27 15:27 -0400
              Re: New VPS Provider needed Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-08-28 09:19 +0200
                Re: New VPS Provider needed Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-28 11:25 +0000
                  Re: New VPS Provider needed Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-08-28 14:37 +0200
          Re: New VPS Provider needed Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 18:13 +0300
    Re: New VPS Provider needed David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 21:18 +1000
      Re: New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 14:21 +0300
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-08-27 08:25 -0400
          Re: New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 15:47 +0300
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 13:43 +0200
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-08-27 13:39 +0200
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-08-27 07:55 -0500
        Re: New VPS Provider needed MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-08-27 14:22 +0100
      Re: New VPS Provider needed Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-08-27 12:41 +0000
      Re: New VPS Provider needed Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-27 16:25 +0000
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 19:40 +0300
          Re: New VPS Provider needed Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-27 17:17 +0000
            Re: New VPS Provider needed Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-08-28 01:01 -0700

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#53053

On 27 August 2013 17:13, Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>
> I know this isn't the place to ask

Νικόλαος is 100% correct about this.

So, this list is also not the correct place to answer.
So please everyone, do not respond. Thanks.

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#53054

Στις 27/8/2013 2:18 μμ, ο/η David έγραψε:
> On 27 August 2013 17:13, �������� <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>
>> I know this isn't the place to ask
>
> �������� is 100% correct about this.
>
> So, this list is also not the correct place to answer.
> So please everyone, do not respond. Thanks.
>

Actually it is.
Poeple are web programmers here and lots of them doing hosting.
You dont like my questions, block me, but just stop answering unhelpfully.

-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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#53057

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:21:33 +0300, ???????? <nikos@superhost.gr> declaimed
the following:

>Actually it is.
>Poeple are web programmers here and lots of them doing hosting.

	And many are NOT web programmers and are not "doing hosting".

	While I maintain the Bestiaria pages, those are static pages -- the
only programming is that I run a Python script every few months to
regenerate the pages after I've manually updated a MySQL database that is
running on my desktop (and I still haven't confirmed I can access that
since I upgraded to a new computer <G>). I don't even know who the service
provider is -- the site is owned by someone else who just asked me if I
could do the HTML (oh, and with the new computer, I'm going to have
problems with that too -- my HTML editor is not supported: HomeSite 5; so I
need to find something new for that too)

	Your provider made some change and suddenly only YOUR sites have
failed? No one else is complaining to the provider?

	That would seem to indicate that the fault is in your coding -- perhaps
making use of undocumented features or were coded to work around some buggy
implementation -- and in the new system the bug is now gone, but your code
is still trying to use it.

>You dont like my questions, block me, but just stop answering unhelpfully.
>

	I'd like to -- but your username is full of characters my (paid) news
reader chokes on when defining a filter.

>-- 
>What is now proved was at first only imagined!

	That you are unable to conceive that faults may be yours and that
others do not owe you a solution to your problems?
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#53059

Στις 27/8/2013 3:25 μμ, ο/η Dennis Lee Bieber έγραψε:
> 	Your provider made some change and suddenly only YOUR sites have
> failed? No one else is complaining to the provider?
>
> 	That would seem to indicate that the fault is in your coding -- perhaps
> making use of undocumented features or were coded to work around some buggy
> implementation -- and in the new system the bug is now gone, but your code
> is still trying to use it.


How come then they were working in the old VPS in the same company and 
in the new VPS implementation do not?



-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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#53061

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
> Actually it is.
> Poeple are web programmers here and lots of them doing hosting.

Fortunately, most of them would not trust you.  And in case they
would, a quick search through what happened on this list a while ago
should fix that.

-- 
Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <http://kwpolska.tk>
PGP: 5EAAEA16
stop html mail | always bottom-post | only UTF-8 makes sense

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#53062

Op 27-08-13 13:21, Νικόλαος schreef:
> Στις 27/8/2013 2:18 μμ, ο/η David έγραψε:
>> On 27 August 2013 17:13, �������� <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know this isn't the place to ask
>>
>> �������� is 100% correct about this.
>>
>> So, this list is also not the correct place to answer.
>> So please everyone, do not respond. Thanks.
>>
> 
> Actually it is.
> Poeple are web programmers here and lots of them doing hosting.

Which is irrelevant. People are cat owners too. That doesn't make
this list the correct place to ask and get answers about cats.

> You dont like my questions, block me, but just stop answering unhelpfully.

You are not in a position to demand anything from people here.

-- 
Antoon Pardon

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#53065

On 2013-08-27 08:25, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 nikos@superhost.gr wrote:
> >Actually it is.

Frankly, it's not.  It's called the Python mailing list because it's
for discussing *Python*.  Otherwise, it would be called "Python and
random irrelevant topics" mailing list.

There are plenty of web-hosting forums (forae?) where such topics
would be appropriate.  I'm sure there are plenty of folks here who
read SciFi/Fantasy books, or cook, but it's not an appropriate forum
on which to discuss literature or culinary arts.

> >You dont like my questions, block me, but just stop answering
> >unhelpfully.
> 
> 	I'd like to -- but your username is full of characters my
> (paid) news reader chokes on when defining a filter.

I've found it helpful to just use "@superhost.gr" as a From/Sender
filter, along with the couple gmail addresses I've caught for him.

-tkc

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#53066

On 27/08/2013 13:55, Tim Chase wrote:
> On 2013-08-27 08:25, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 nikos@superhost.gr wrote:
>> >Actually it is.
>
> Frankly, it's not.  It's called the Python mailing list because it's
> for discussing *Python*.  Otherwise, it would be called "Python and
> random irrelevant topics" mailing list.
>
> There are plenty of web-hosting forums (forae?) where such topics
> would be appropriate.  I'm sure there are plenty of folks here who
> read SciFi/Fantasy books, or cook, but it's not an appropriate forum
> on which to discuss literature or culinary arts.
>
[snip]
Re Latin:

Singular: forum
Plural: fora

If the plural was "forae" then the singular would be "fora".

However, in English, just use "forums".

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#53058

On 2013-08-27, David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 27 August 2013 17:13, ???????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>
>> I know this isn't the place to ask
>
> ???????? is 100% correct about this.
>
> So, this list is also not the correct place to answer. So
> please everyone, do not respond. Thanks.

I can't understand how this savant at anti-killfile-fu can't
otherwise manage his server.

-- 
Neil Cerutti

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#53076

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:18:10 +1000, David wrote:

> On 27 August 2013 17:13, Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>
>> I know this isn't the place to ask
> 
> Νικόλαος is 100% correct about this.
> 
> So, this list is also not the correct place to answer. So please
> everyone, do not respond. Thanks.

Asking for recommendations for a hosting provider that supports Python 3 
very much is on-topic. (Besides, we often have off-topic discussions on 
this list.)

Νικόλαος has asked for help finding a Python-friendly hosting company. I 
don't know any hosting companies other than what I would discover by 
googling, so I can't help him.

Nikos, I'm not interested in getting into a debate about who is to blame 
for your website breaking. You have asked your question, nobody is 
obliged to help you, if anyone has a recommendation they will reply, and 
if they don't, they won't. That is the way things are, so just accept it.


-- 
Steven

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#53077

Στις 27/8/2013 7:25 μμ, ο/η Steven D'Aprano έγραψε:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:18:10 +1000, David wrote:
>
>> On 27 August 2013 17:13, Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know this isn't the place to ask
>>
>> Νικόλαος is 100% correct about this.
>>
>> So, this list is also not the correct place to answer. So please
>> everyone, do not respond. Thanks.
>
> Asking for recommendations for a hosting provider that supports Python 3
> very much is on-topic. (Besides, we often have off-topic discussions on
> this list.)
>
> Νικόλαος has asked for help finding a Python-friendly hosting company. I
> don't know any hosting companies other than what I would discover by
> googling, so I can't help him.
>
> Nikos, I'm not interested in getting into a debate about who is to blame
> for your website breaking. You have asked your question, nobody is
> obliged to help you, if anyone has a recommendation they will reply, and
> if they don't, they won't. That is the way things are, so just accept it.
>
>

Okey, i can accept that, what i don't accept is fun on my dispense 
especially when iam facing such difficulties.

I alredy lost 4 customers :(

-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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#53079

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:40:21 +0300, Ferrous Cranus wrote:

> I alredy lost 4 customers :(

Nikos, you are mistaking us for your personal friends. We're not. We 
don't care if you lose 4 customers or 400, whether you become successful 
web developer and become rich, or end up homeless. Our only relationship 
to you is that you are a fellow Python user, and we are volunteering to 
help teach people Python. That includes you. But you are just another 
stranger half a world away.

I am truly sorry that I have to tell you these harsh truths, but you need 
to understand that trying to beg for sympathy is just going to alienate 
people and make them less willing to help. You need to be professional 
here. That doesn't mean you can't be friendly. Maybe, if you are pleasant 
and interesting and give as much help as you receive, you will even make 
some friends here. But don't presume that we are your friends and care 
about your troubles. We all have troubles of our own.


-- 
Steven

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#53113

Hello Steven,

Iam not trying to beg for your sympathy, i'am just expressing my frustration for my web hosting issues and i do that because i wanted to ask you for an alternative web service(python 3 enabled).

Its totally human for one to express his own feeling to a python related and web host related issue in a python newsgroup.
Also is a matter of character each person has and iam an open human being and feel like makign friend easy.

Let alone that it is also a business offer for someone that wants to host my limited/joomla websites and make money out of it. 

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