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  Re: Most discussion on comp.lang.python is about developing with Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-11-13 17:53 -0500
    Re: Most discussion on comp.lang.python is about developing with Python "Rhodri James" <rhodri@wildebst.demon.co.uk> - 2013-11-13 23:27 +0000
      Re: Most discussion on comp.lang.python is about developing with Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-11-13 19:53 -0500
    Re: Most discussion on comp.lang.python is about developing with Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-13 23:50 +0000

#59352 — Re: Most discussion on comp.lang.python is about developing with Python

On 11/13/2013 3:35 PM, bob gailer wrote:

> I am very disappointed to see so much energy and bandwidth going to
> conversations that bash individuals.

Me too.

> Is there a moderator for this list?

Posts from new addresses go to moderators for spam deletion. There are a 
couple a day that are discarded. Posts with 'suspicious headers' also 
get checked. Non-suspicious posts from known people (perhaps 90%) do not 
get checked. We have not yet gotten into 'censorship' of trolling and 
flaming. I would prefer not being forced into considering it.

> Or would you be willing to stop the bashing? I don't see that it helps
> anyone, and could be very offputting to other newbies.

I wish a few more old-timers would consider the effect of their posts on 
newcomers.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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#59353

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 22:53:46 -0000, Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> wrote:

> On 11/13/2013 3:35 PM, bob gailer wrote:
>
>> Is there a moderator for this list?
>
> Posts from new addresses go to moderators for spam deletion. There are a  
> couple a day that are discarded. Posts with 'suspicious headers' also  
> get checked. Non-suspicious posts from known people (perhaps 90%) do not  
> get checked. We have not yet gotten into 'censorship' of trolling and  
> flaming. I would prefer not being forced into considering it.

This is true of python-list.  comp.lang.python the Usenet newsgroup is not  
moderated.  God alone knows what Googlegroups thinks it's doing.

-- 
Rhodri James *-* Wildebeest Herder to the Masses

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#59371

On 11/13/2013 6:27 PM, Rhodri James wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 22:53:46 -0000, Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> wrote:
>
>> On 11/13/2013 3:35 PM, bob gailer wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a moderator for this list?
>>
>> Posts from new addresses go to moderators for spam deletion. There are
>> a couple a day that are discarded. Posts with 'suspicious headers'
>> also get checked. Non-suspicious posts from known people (perhaps 90%)
>> do not get checked. We have not yet gotten into 'censorship' of
>> trolling and flaming. I would prefer not being forced into considering
>> it.
>
> This is true of python-list.  comp.lang.python the Usenet newsgroup is
> not moderated.  God alone knows what Googlegroups thinks it's doing.

On 11/13/2013 6:50 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:> On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 1
 > Terry, perhaps you are referring to the python@python.org mailing list.

Yes, I took 'list' to mean 'mailing list', not 'newsgroup'.

 > But this is also a newsgroup,

Two newsgroups, comp.lang.python and gmane.comp.python.general, and 
(indirectly, I believe) a googlegroup.

 > and I believe that there is no moderator on that.

No, not on any of them. However, as near as I can tell, gmane sends 
posts to python-list first and only displays and archives posts that go 
out to the list (and back to gmane, if they originate there, like this 
one). Gmane also has a spam filter and after-the-fact spam reporting. 
People on c.l.p and py g.g. benefit from filtering of spam originally 
sent to the list or gmane. About half of it originates from gmail 
acounts but I do not know (and have not checked) whether gmail posts 
come directly or via gg.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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#59359

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 17:53:46 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:

>> Is there a moderator for this list?
> 
> Posts from new addresses go to moderators for spam deletion. There are a
> couple a day that are discarded. Posts with 'suspicious headers' also
> get checked. Non-suspicious posts from known people (perhaps 90%) do not
> get checked. We have not yet gotten into 'censorship' of trolling and
> flaming. I would prefer not being forced into considering it.

Terry, perhaps you are referring to the python@python.org mailing list. 
But this is also a newsgroup, and I believe that there is no moderator on 
that.


-- 
Steven

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