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Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain)

Started byΝικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
First post2013-06-01 08:44 -0700
Last post2013-06-02 11:22 +0100
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  Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-01 08:44 -0700
    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-01 23:02 -0700
    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Giorgos Tzampanakis <giorgos.tzampanakis@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 07:01 +0000
      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-06-02 08:22 +0100
      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 18:11 +1000
      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 07:35 -0700
        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Giorgos Tzampanakis <giorgos.tzampanakis@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 14:36 +0000
          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-06-02 15:51 +0100
            Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 08:04 -0700
              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 01:15 +1000
                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 08:23 -0700
                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-06-02 15:47 -0400
              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-06-02 16:24 +0100
                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 08:36 -0700
                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-06-02 16:55 +0100
                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 09:21 -0700
                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 02:31 +1000
                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 09:44 -0700
                          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 03:05 +1000
                            Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 10:12 -0700
                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 11:21 -0600
                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 03:21 +1000
                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 11:34 -0700
                                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 23:40 -0600
                          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 09:10 +1000
                          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 09:13 +1000
                          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 15:02 +1000
                            Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 22:05 -0700
                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 22:22 -0700
                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 22:31 -0700
                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 23:45 -0600
                                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 23:11 -0700
                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-06-03 10:00 +0100
                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 19:05 +1000
                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 02:32 -0700
                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-03 23:04 +0000
                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-03 06:46 +0000
                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 17:36 +1000
                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 02:12 -0700
                                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 05:54 -0700
                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-06-03 06:48 -0700
                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-03 22:37 +0000
                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 21:35 -0700
                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-04 05:48 +0000
                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 23:43 -0700
                                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-03 22:46 +0000
                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-06-03 23:28 -0700
                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 17:35 +1000
                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 01:05 -0700
                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-06-04 08:39 +0100
                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 00:58 -0700
                                          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-06-04 14:01 +0100
                                            Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 06:37 -0700
                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 06:49 -0700
                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 06:57 -0700
                                                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-06-04 15:09 +0100
                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 07:18 -0700
                                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 07:24 -0700
                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 09:07 -0600
                                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 09:57 -0700
                                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 10:23 -0700
                                                          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 19:53 +0200
                                                            Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 11:27 -0700
                                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 20:45 +0200
                                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 11:51 -0700
                                                                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 12:32 -0700
                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 13:03 -0700
                                                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 07:47 +1000
                                                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 20:44 -0700
                                                                          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 21:05 -0700
                                                                            Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 21:15 -0700
                                                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 23:40 -0600
                                                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 23:05 -0700
                                                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-05 06:03 +0000
                                                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 23:40 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 04:08 -0700
                                                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-06-05 17:44 +0100
                                                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 10:34 -0700
                                                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-06-06 10:50 +0200
                                                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 03:35 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-06-06 12:44 +0200
                                                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 04:00 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-06-06 13:09 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 04:24 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-06-06 13:31 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 04:31 -0700
                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 21:26 +0100
                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 18:28 -0700
                                                                      RE: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-05 06:04 +0300
                                                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 20:28 -0700
                                                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 13:32 +1000
                                                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 21:47 -0700
                                                                          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 22:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-05 05:56 +0000
                                                            Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 10:43 -0700
                                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-06-05 19:32 +0100
                                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 11:43 -0700
                                                                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 20:43 -0700
                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 21:42 -0700
                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-06-06 12:35 +0100
                                                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 05:04 -0700
                                                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-06-06 13:50 +0100
                                                                          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 11:13 -0700
                                                                            Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2013-06-06 21:03 +0200
                                                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 12:17 -0700
                                                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2013-06-06 22:25 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 13:39 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 13:56 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 13:59 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2013-06-06 23:15 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-07 01:29 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2013-06-06 23:07 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-06-06 22:57 +0100
                                                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-07 01:25 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-06-06 23:35 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 16:46 +1000
                                                                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 00:08 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 17:24 +1000
                                                                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Roel Schroeven <roel@roelschroeven.net> - 2013-06-08 11:19 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2013-06-07 09:09 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 00:32 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Michael Weylandt <michael.weylandt@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 08:42 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 11:10 +0300
                                                                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) "R. Michael Weylandt" <michael.weylandt@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 09:52 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-08 07:57 +0000
                                                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 20:13 -0700
                                                                            Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-06-06 20:42 +0100
                                                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 13:05 -0700
                                                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 13:21 -0700
                                                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-06-07 09:08 +1000
                                                                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-06-06 20:24 +1000
                                                                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 04:16 -0700
                                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) jmfauth <wxjmfauth@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 22:54 -0700
                                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 16:11 +1000
                                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 23:38 -0700
                                                                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-06-06 09:53 +0100
                                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2013-06-04 20:18 +0200
                                                          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 11:33 -0700
                                                            Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2013-06-04 21:31 +0200
                                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 20:40 -0700
                                      Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-04 08:47 +0000
                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 02:00 -0700
                                          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-06 12:44 +0000
                                            Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 11:46 -0700
                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-06-07 11:01 +1000
                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-07 02:13 +0000
                                              Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 09:56 +0300
                                        Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-05 06:06 +0000
              RE: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-02 22:44 +0300
                Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) nagia.retsina@gmail.com - 2013-06-02 12:51 -0700
                  Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 06:46 +1000
                    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 21:59 -0700
          Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 08:02 -0700
    Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain) Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-06-02 11:22 +0100

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#46858

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
Date2013-06-04 08:47 +0000
Message-ID<51ada984$0$11118$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#46838
On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 23:28:21 -0700, nagia.retsina wrote:


> nikos@superhost.gr [~]# locale
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[...]

Okay, this is good. This means that your system is currently using UTF-8.


> Hese is also how the terminal presents my filenames.
[...] 
> nikos@superhost.gr [~]# ls -l www/data/apps/ total 368548
> v2.4.msi -rw-r--r-- 1 nikos nikos  3511233 Jun  3 12:07 ΞΟ ΟΞ�\ Ο
>       ΞΏΟ.mp3

Weirder and weirder.

Please run these commands, and show what result they give:

alias ls

printf %q\\n *.mp3

ls -b *.mp3



> I'll try renaming it via terminal too. f you want to see soemhtign  else
> please ask me to show you Steven.


If all else fails, you could just rename the troublesome file and 
hopefully the problem will go away:

mv *Ο.mp3 1.mp3
mv 1.mp3 Eυχή του Ιησού.mp3




-- 
Steven

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#46859

FromΝικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-04 02:00 -0700
Message-ID<ae1c8dfb-5284-47fe-8f68-03f380b61ee6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#46858
Τη Τρίτη, 4 Ιουνίου 2013 11:47:01 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano έγραψε:

> Please run these commands, and show what result they give:

nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/data/apps]# ls -l *.mp3
-rw-r--r-- 1 nikos nikos 3511233 Jun  3 12:07 \305\365\367\336\ \364\357\365\ \311\347\363\357\375\375.mp3
-rw-r--r-- 1 nikos nikos 3511233 Jun  4 11:54 ΞΟ
ΟΞ�\ Ο
      ΞΏΟ.mp3

nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/data/apps]# alias ls
alias ls='/bin/ls $LS_OPTIONS'

nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/data/apps]# printf %q\n\n *.mp3
$'\305\365\367\336 \364\357\365 \311\347\363\357\375\375.mp3'nn$'\316\225\317\205\317\207\316\256 \317\204\316\277\317\205 \316\231\316\267\317\203\316\277\317\215.mp3'nnnikos@superhost.gr [~/www/data/apps]# ls -b *.mp3
\305\365\367\336\ \364\357\365\ \311\347\363\357\375\375.mp3  ΞΟ
ΟΞ�\ Ο
      ΞΏΟ.mp3

please explain what this comamnd does.

I deliberately placed the same .mp3 file twice.

The first is after renaming it to greek chars and uploaded from within my Win8 machine via FileZilla to the webhost server
The latter after renaming the file from within the remote linux machine.

Seems that the way the system used to actually rename the file matters.


> If all else fails, you could just rename the troublesome file and 
> hopefully the problem will go away:
> mv *Ο.mp3 1.mp3
> mv 1.mp3 Eυχή του Ιησού.mp3

Yes, but why you are doing it it 2 steps and not as:

mv *Ο.mp3 'Eυχή του Ιησού.mp3'

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#47224

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
Date2013-06-06 12:44 +0000
Message-ID<51b08444$0$29966$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#46859
On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 02:00:43 -0700, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:

> Τη Τρίτη, 4 Ιουνίου 2013 11:47:01 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano
> έγραψε:
> 
>> Please run these commands, and show what result they give:
[...]
> nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/data/apps]# alias ls 
> alias ls='/bin/ls $LS_OPTIONS'

And what does 

echo $LS_OPTIONS


give?

[...]
> Seems that the way the system used to actually rename the file matters.

Yes. This is where you get interactions between different systems that 
use different encodings, and they don't work well together.

Some day, everything will use UTF-8, and these problems will go away.


>> If all else fails, you could just rename the troublesome file and
>> hopefully the problem will go away:
>> mv *Ο.mp3 1.mp3
>> mv 1.mp3 Eυχή του Ιησού.mp3
> 
> Yes, but why you are doing it it 2 steps and not as:
> 
> mv *Ο.mp3 'Eυχή του Ιησού.mp3'

I don't remember. I had a reason that made sense at the time, but I can't 
remember what it was.


I think I can reproduce your problem. If I open a terminal, set to use 
UTF-8, I can do this:

[steve@ando ~]$ cd /tmp
[steve@ando tmp]$ touch '999-Eυχή-του-Ιησού'
[steve@ando tmp]$ ls 999*
999-Eυχή-του-Ιησού


Now if I change the terminal to use Greek ISO-8859-7, and hit UP-ARROW to 
grab the previous command line from history, the *displayed* file name 
changes, but the actual file being touched remains the same:

[steve@ando tmp]$ touch '999-EΟΟΞ�-ΟΞΏΟ-ΞΞ·ΟΞΏΟ'
[steve@ando tmp]$ ls 999*
999-EΟΟΞ�-ΟΞΏΟ-ΞΞ·ΟΞΏΟ


In Python 3.3, I can demonstrate the same sort of thing:

py> s = '999-Eυχή-του-Ιησού'
py> bytes_as_utf8 = s.encode('utf-8')
py> t = bytes_as_utf8.decode('iso-8859-7', errors='replace')
py> print(t)
999-EΟΟΞ�-ΟΞΏΟ-ΞΞ·ΟΞΏΟ


So that demonstrates part of your problem: even though your Linux system 
is using UTF-8, your terminal is probably set to ISO-8859-7. The 
interaction between these will lead to strange and disturbing Unicode 
errors.


To continue, back in the terminal set to ISO-8859-7, if instead of using 
the history line, if I re-copy and paste the file name:

[steve@ando tmp]$ touch '999-Eυχή-του-Ιησού'
[steve@ando tmp]$ ls 999*
999-E???-???-?????  999-EΟΟΞ�-ΟΞΏΟ-ΞΞ·ΟΞΏΟ


So now I end up with two files, one with a file name that is utter 
garbage bytes, and one that is only a little better, being mojibake.

Resetting the terminal to use UTF-8 at least now restores the *display* 
of the earlier file's name:

[steve@ando tmp]$ ls 999*
999-E???-???-?????  999-Eυχή-του-Ιησού
[steve@ando tmp]$ ls -b 999*
999-E\365\367\336-\364\357\365-\311\347\363\357\375  999-Eυχή-του-Ιησού

but the other file name is still made of garbage bytes.


So I believe I understand how your file name has become garbage. To fix 
it, make sure that your terminal is set to use UTF-8, and then rename it. 
Do the same with every file in the directory until the problem goes away.

(If one file has garbage bytes in the file name, chances are that more 
than one do.)


-- 
Steven

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#47256

FromΝικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-06 11:46 -0700
Message-ID<92b14633-2c15-477f-93e3-d4a2eac9c76b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#47224
Τη Πέμπτη, 6 Ιουνίου 2013 3:44:52 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano έγραψε:

> py> s = '999-Eυχή-του-Ιησού'
> py> bytes_as_utf8 = s.encode('utf-8')
> py> t = bytes_as_utf8.decode('iso-8859-7', errors='replace')
> py> print(t) 
> 999-EΟΟΞ�-ΟΞΏΟ-ΞΞ·ΟΞΏΟ

errors='replace' mean dont break in case or error?
You took the unicode 's' string you utf-8 bytestringed it.
Then how its possible to ask for the utf8-bytestring to decode back to unicode string with the use of a different charset that the one used for encoding and thsi actually printed the filename in greek-iso?


> So that demonstrates part of your problem: even though your Linux system  
> is using UTF-8, your terminal is probably set to ISO-8859-7. The  
> interaction between these will lead to strange and disturbing Unicode 
> errors.

Yes i feel this is the problem too. 
Its a wonder to me why putty used by default greek-iso instead of utf-8 !!

Please explain this t me because now that i begin to understand this encode/decode things i begin to like them!

a) WHAT does it mean when a linux system is set to use utf-8?
b) WHAT does it mean when a terminal client is set to use utf-8?
c) WHAT happens when the two of them try to work together?


> So I believe I understand how your file name has become garbage. To fix 
> it, make sure that your terminal is set to use UTF-8, and then rename it. 
> Do the same with every file in the directory until the problem goes away.

nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/cgi-bin]# echo $LS_OPTIONS
--color=tty -F -a -b -T 0

Is this okey? The '-b' option is for to display a filename in binary mode?

Indeed i have changed putty to use 'utf-8' and 'ls -l' now displays the file in correct greek letters. Switching putty's encoding back to 'greek-iso' then the *displayed* filanames shows in mojabike.

WHAT is being displayed and what is actually stored as bytes is two different thigns right?

Ευχη του Ιησου.mp3
EΟΟΞ�-ΟΞΏΟ-ΞΞ·ΟΞΏΟ

is the way the filaname is displayed in the terminal depending on the encoding the terminal uses, correct? But no matter *how* its being dislayed those two are the same file?

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#47292

FromCameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au>
Date2013-06-07 11:01 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.2833.1370566901.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#47256
On 06Jun2013 11:46, =?utf-8?B?zp3Or866zr/PgiDOk866z4EzM866?= <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
| Τη Πέμπτη, 6 Ιουνίου 2013 3:44:52 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano έγραψε:
| > py> s = '999-Eυχή-του-Ιησού'
| > py> bytes_as_utf8 = s.encode('utf-8')
| > py> t = bytes_as_utf8.decode('iso-8859-7', errors='replace')
| > py> print(t) 
| > 999-EΟΟΞ�-ΟΞΏΟ-ΞΞ·ΟΞΏΟ
| 
| errors='replace' mean dont break in case or error?

Yes. The result will be correct for correct iso-8859-7 and slightly mangled
for something that would not decode smoothly.

| You took the unicode 's' string you utf-8 bytestringed it.
| Then how its possible to ask for the utf8-bytestring to decode
| back to unicode string with the use of a different charset that the
| one used for encoding and thsi actually printed the filename in
| greek-iso?

It is easily possible, as shown above. Does it make sense? Normally
not, but Steven is demonstrating how your "mv" exercises have
behaved: a rename using utf-8, then a _display_ using iso-8859-7.

| > So that demonstrates part of your problem: even though your Linux system  
| > is using UTF-8, your terminal is probably set to ISO-8859-7. The  
| > interaction between these will lead to strange and disturbing Unicode 
| > errors.
| 
| Yes i feel this is the problem too. 
| Its a wonder to me why putty used by default greek-iso instead of utf-8 !!

Putty will get its terminal setting from the system you came from.
I suppose Windows of some kind. If you look at Putty's settings you
may be able to specify UTF-8 explicitly; not sure. If you can, do
that. At least there will be one less layer of confusion to debug.

| Please explain this t me because now that i begin to understand
| this encode/decode things i begin to like them!
| 
| a) WHAT does it mean when a linux system is set to use utf-8?

It means the locale settings _for the current process_ are set for
UTF-8. The "locale" command will show you the current state. There
will also be some system settings with defaults for stuff started
up by the system. On CentOS and RedHat that is probably the file:

  /etc/sysconfig/i18n

_However_, when you ssh in to the system using Putty or another ssh
client, the settings at your local end are passes to the remote ssh
session. In this way different people using different locales can
ssh in and get the locales they expect to use.

Of course, of the locale settings differ and these people are working
on the same files and text, madness will ensue.

| b) WHAT does it mean when a terminal client is set to use utf-8?

It means the _display_ end of the terminal will render characters
using UTF-8. Data comes from the remote system as a sequence of
bytes. The terminal receives these bytes and _decodes_ them using
utf-8 (or whatever) in order to decides what characters to display.

| c) WHAT happens when the two of them try to work together?

If everything matches, it is all good. If the locales do not match,
the mismatch will result in an undesired bytes<->characters
encode/decode step somewhere, and something will display incorrectly
or be entered as input incorrectly.

| > So I believe I understand how your file name has become garbage. To fix 
| > it, make sure that your terminal is set to use UTF-8, and then rename it. 
| > Do the same with every file in the directory until the problem goes away.
| 
| nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/cgi-bin]# echo $LS_OPTIONS
| --color=tty -F -a -b -T 0
| 
| Is this okey? The '-b' option is for to display a filename in binary mode?

Probably. "man ls" will tell you.

Personally, I "unalias ls" on RedHat systems (and any other system
where an alias has been set up). I want ls to do what I say, not
what someone else thought was a good idea.

| Indeed i have changed putty to use 'utf-8' and 'ls -l' now displays
| the file in correct greek letters. Switching putty's encoding back
| to 'greek-iso' then the *displayed* filanames shows in mojabike.

Exactly so.

| WHAT is being displayed and what is actually stored as bytes is two different thigns right?

Yes. Display requires the byte stream to be decoded. Wrong decoding
display wrong characters/glyphs.

| Ευχη του Ιησου.mp3
| EΟΟΞ�-ΟΞΏΟ-ΞΞ·ΟΞΏΟ
| 
| is the way the filaname is displayed in the terminal depending
| on the encoding the terminal uses, correct? But no matter *how* its
| being dislayed those two are the same file?

In principle, yes. Nothing has changed on the filesystem itself.

Cheers,
-- 
Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au>

in rec.moto, jsh wrote:
> Dan Nitschke wrote:
> > Ged Martin wrote:
> > > On Sat, 17 May 1997 16:53:33 +0000, Dan Nitschke scribbled:
> > > >(And you stay *out* of my dreams, you deviant little
> > > >weirdo.)
> > > Yeah, yeah, that's what you're saying in _public_....
> > Feh. You know nothing of my dreams. I dream entirely in text (New Century
> > Schoolbook bold oblique 14 point), and never in color. I once dreamed I
> > was walking down a flowchart of my own code, and a waterfall of semicolons
> > was chasing me. (I hid behind a global variable until they went by.)
> You write code in a proportional serif? No wonder you got extra
> semicolons falling all over the place.
No, I *dream* about writing code in a proportional serif font.
It's much more exciting than my real life.
/* dan: THE Anti-Ged -- Ignorant Yank (tm) #1, none-%er #7 */
Dan Nitschke  peDANtic@best.com  nitschke@redbrick.com

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#47298

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
Date2013-06-07 02:13 +0000
Message-ID<51b141d3$0$29966$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#47256
On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 11:46:20 -0700, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:

> Τη Πέμπτη, 6 Ιουνίου 2013 3:44:52 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano
> έγραψε:
> 
>> py> s = '999-Eυχή-του-Ιησού' 
>> py> bytes_as_utf8 = s.encode('utf-8') 
>> py> t = bytes_as_utf8.decode('iso-8859-7', errors='replace') 
>> py> print(t)
>> 999-EΟΟΞ�-ΟΞΏΟ-ΞΞ·ΟΞΏΟ
> 
> errors='replace' mean dont break in case or error? 

Please try reading the documentation for yourself before asking for help.

http://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#bytes.decode


Yes, errors='replace' will mean that any time there is a decoding error, 
the official Unicode "U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER" will be used instead 
of raising an error. Read the docs above, and follow the link, for more 
information.


> You took the unicode
> 's' string you utf-8 bytestringed it. 

The word is "encoded".

Encoding: Unicode string => bytes
Decoding: bytes => Unicode string


> Then how its possible to ask for
> the utf8-bytestring to decode back to unicode string with the use of a
> different charset that the one used for encoding and thsi actually
> printed the filename in greek-iso?

Bytes are bytes, no matter where they come from. Bytes don't remember 
whether they were from a Unicode string, or a float, or an integer, or a 
list of pointers. All they know is that they are a sequence of values, 
each value is 8 bits.

So bytes don't remember what charset (encoding) made them. If I have a 
set of bytes, I can *try* to do anything I like with them:

* decode those bytes as ASCII
* decode those bytes as UTF-8
* decode those bytes as ISO-8859-7
* decode those bytes as a list of floats
* decode those bytes as a binary tree of pointers

If the bytes are not actually ASCII, or UTF-8, etc., then I will get 
garbage, or an error.


>> So that demonstrates part of your problem: even though your Linux
>> system is using UTF-8, your terminal is probably set to ISO-8859-7. The
>> interaction between these will lead to strange and disturbing Unicode
>> errors.
> 
> Yes i feel this is the problem too.
> Its a wonder to me why putty used by default greek-iso instead of utf-8
> !!

Putty is probably getting the default charset from the Windows 8 system 
you are using, and Windows is probably using Greek ISO-8859-7 for 
compatibility with legacy data going back to Windows 95 or even DOS.

Someday everyone will use UTF-8, and this nonsense will be over.


> Please explain this t me because now that i begin to understand this
> encode/decode things i begin to like them!

Start here:

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html

http://nedbatchelder.com/text/unipain.html



> a) WHAT does it mean when a linux system is set to use utf-8?

The Linux file system just treats file names as bytes. Any byte except 
0x00 and 0x2f (ASCII '\0' and '/') are legal in file names, so the Linux 
file system will store any other bytes.

But the applications on a Linux system don't work with bytes, they work 
with text strings. You want to see a file name like "My Music.mp3", not 
bytes like 0x4d79204d757369632e6d7033. So the applications need to know 
how to encode their text strings (file names) into bytes, and how to 
decode the file system bytes back into strings.

On Linux, there is a standard setting for doing this, the locale, which 
by default is set to use UTF-8 as the standard encoding. So well-behaved 
Linux applications will, directly or indirectly, interpret the bytes-on-
disk in file names as UTF-8, because that's what the locale tells them to 
do.

On Windows, there is a complete different setting for doing this, 
probably in the Registry.


> b) WHAT does it mean when a terminal client is set to use utf-8? 

Terminals need to accept bytes from the keyboard, and display them as 
text to the user. So they need to know what encoding to use to change 
bytes like 0x4d79204d757369632e6d7033 into something that is readable to 
a human being, "My Music.mp3". That is the encoding.


> c) WHAT happens when the two of them try to work together?

If they are set to the same encoding, everything just works.

If they are set to different encodings, you will probably have problems, 
just as you are having problems.


> nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/cgi-bin]# echo $LS_OPTIONS 
> --color=tty -F -a -b -T 0
> 
> Is this okey? The '-b' option is for to display a filename in binary
> mode?

That's fine.


> Indeed i have changed putty to use 'utf-8' and 'ls -l' now displays the
> file in correct greek letters. Switching putty's encoding back to
> 'greek-iso' then the *displayed* filanames shows in mojabike.
> 
> WHAT is being displayed and what is actually stored as bytes is two
> different thigns right?

Correct.

The bytes 0x200x40 means " @" (space at-sign) in ASCII or UTF-8, (and 
also many other encodings), but it means CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-4020 in 
UTF-16, it is invalid in UTF-32, and it means the number 32 as a 16-bit 
integer. Bytes are just sets of 8-bit values. The *meaning* of those 8-
bit values depends on you, not the bytes themselves.


> is the way the filaname is displayed in the terminal depending on the
> encoding the terminal uses, correct? But no matter *how* its being
> dislayed those two are the same file?

That's a hard question to answer. Sometimes yes, but not necessarily. It 
will depend on how the terminal works, and how confused it gets.



-- 
Steven

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#47310

FromΝικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-07 09:56 +0300
Message-ID<mailman.2840.1370588216.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#47256

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On 7/6/2013 4:01 πμ, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 06Jun2013 11:46, =?utf-8?B?zp3Or866zr/PgiDOk866z4EzM866?= <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
> | Τη Πέμπτη, 6 Ιουνίου 2013 3:44:52 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano έγραψε:
> | > py> s = '999-Eυχή-του-Ιησού'
> | > py> bytes_as_utf8 = s.encode('utf-8')
> | > py> t = bytes_as_utf8.decode('iso-8859-7', errors='replace')
> | > py> print(t)
> | > 999-EΟΟΞ�-ΟΞΏΟ-ΞΞ·ΟΞΏΟ
> |
> | errors='replace' mean dont break in case or error?
>
> Yes. The result will be correct for correct iso-8859-7 and slightly mangled
> for something that would not decode smoothly.
How can it be correct? We have encoded out string in utf-8 and then we 
tried to decode it as greek-iso? How can this possibly be correct?
>
> | You took the unicode 's' string you utf-8 bytestringed it.
> | Then how its possible to ask for the utf8-bytestring to decode
> | back to unicode string with the use of a different charset that the
> | one used for encoding and thsi actually printed the filename in
> | greek-iso?
>
> It is easily possible, as shown above. Does it make sense? Normally
> not, but Steven is demonstrating how your "mv" exercises have
> behaved: a rename using utf-8, then a _display_ using iso-8859-7.
Same as above, i don't understand it at all, since different 
charsets(encodings) used in the encode/decode process.
> |
> | a) WHAT does it mean when a linux system is set to use utf-8?
>
> It means the locale settings _for the current process_ are set for
> UTF-8. The "locale" command will show you the current state.
That means that, when a linux application needs to saved a filename to 
the linux filesystem, the app checks the filesytem's 'locale', so to 
encode the filename using the utf-8 charset ?
And likewise when a linux application wants to decode a filename is also 
checking the filesystem's 'locale' setting so to know what charset must 
use to decode the filename correctly back to the original string?

So locale is used for filesystem itself and linux apps to know how to 
read(decode) and write(enode) filenames from/into the system's hdd?
>
>
> | c) WHAT happens when the two of them try to work together?
>
> If everything matches, it is all good. If the locales do not match,
> the mismatch will result in an undesired bytes<->characters
> encode/decode step somewhere, and something will display incorrectly
> or be entered as input incorrectly.

Cant quite grasp the idea:

local end: Win8,  locale = greek-iso
remote end: CentOS 6.4,  locale = utf-8

FileZilla by default uses "do not know what charset" to upload filenames
Putty by default uses greek-iso to display filenames


WHAT someone can expect to happen when all of the above work together?
Mess of course, but i want to hear in detail each step of the mess as it 
emerges.

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#47025

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
Date2013-06-05 06:06 +0000
Message-ID<51aed570$0$11118$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#46858
On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 08:47:01 +0000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

> Please run these commands, and show what result they give:
> 
> alias ls
> 
> printf %q\\n *.mp3
> 
> ls -b *.mp3


Do you have an answer for this yet? Better still, change the last two 
commands to this:


printf %q\\n *

ls -b *


> If all else fails, you could just rename the troublesome file and
> hopefully the problem will go away:
> 
> mv *Ο.mp3 1.mp3
> mv 1.mp3 Eυχή του Ιησού.mp3


Of course that second command is wrong, it needs quotes:

mv 1.mp3 "Eυχή του Ιησού.mp3"



-- 
Steven

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#46727

FromCarlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com>
Date2013-06-02 22:44 +0300
Message-ID<mailman.2558.1370202313.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#46696
Hey guys! Come on!!!

Repeat with me: "Googsfraba!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fscuv4PIjws

lol

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> From: breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk
> Subject: Re: Changing filenames from Greeklish => Greek (subprocess complain)
> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 16:24:10 +0100
>
> On 02/06/2013 16:04, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:
>> Τη Κυριακή, 2 Ιουνίου 2013 5:51:31 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>>
>>> You've obviously arrived very late at the party.
>>
>> Apart from the "funny" commenting, can you for once contribute towards to an actual solution or this is the best you can do to prove yourself smart in here by talking down on me?
>>
>
> The only thing I'll contribute is that if you're looking to run a
> commercial venture, you wouldn't be the last on my list for services,
> you'd never get on it.
>
> Further I'll point out that you never give any indication at all of ever
> doing any research before you ask a question. You simply fire off email
> after email in the hope that you'll get a response. Luckily for you a
> substantial number of people have come to your rescue. Unfortunately
> for you, you've exhausted the patience of a number who might well have
> been extremely helpful *IF* you'd put in a little effort. That is just
> too much to ask of course.
>
> --
> "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are
> watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker
> commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe.
>
> Mark Lawrence
>
> --
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#46729

Fromnagia.retsina@gmail.com
Date2013-06-02 12:51 -0700
Message-ID<514e1984-d8df-4f03-aca7-de7962c76f67@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#46727
Τη Κυριακή, 2 Ιουνίου 2013 10:44:05 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Carlos Nepomuceno έγραψε:

> Hey guys! Come on!!!
> Repeat with me: "Googsfraba!"

You are not and Jack Nicholson and this is not an Anger Management lesson (which was a great movie btw).

I'am the one that i should chant that mantra because instead of receiving helpfull replies i get that kind of responses.

Now, is anyone willing to help me on this please?
I also accept hints on how to solve this!

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#46735

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-03 06:46 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.2564.1370206022.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#46729
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:51 AM,  <nagia.retsina@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now, is anyone willing to help me on this please?
> I also accept hints on how to solve this!

Hints I can do. Here, I've set up a scavenger hunt for you. You'll go
to a number of web sites that I nominate, type in keywords, and hit
enter.

The first web site is Google: www.google.com
Type in: suexec

The second web site is DuckDuckGo: www.duckduckgo.com
Type in: paid apache technical support

The third web site is ESR Question (not its official name):
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Unlike the other two, this one is so smart (it says it right in the
URL!) that it doesn't need you to type anything in!

Read through these pages. You will find clues scattered throughout;
some of them will be solved by typing them into one of the first two
web sites. When you complete the scavenger hunt, you will find your
prize.

ChrisA

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#46762

FromΝικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-02 21:59 -0700
Message-ID<0a154b18-ea67-48a9-908a-0334c6af29fa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#46735
I did all the google searh i could, but iwht no luxk, this is no suexec issue.
Why you say it is one?
The other problem i had was 'suexec' related, not this one, this is a subprocess issue.

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#46695

FromΝικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-02 08:02 -0700
Message-ID<e2c905da-a806-4167-ad54-d8a19bfbb63f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#46693
Τη Κυριακή, 2 Ιουνίου 2013 5:36:57 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Giorgos Tzampanakis έγραψε:
> On 2013-06-02, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> [snip unreadable code]
> 
> 
> 
> Okay, this sounds like a homework exercise. Also, it doesn't appear like
> you've spent any amount of time researching a solution yourself.

I have spent days looking for a solution to this.
Why you say it is unreadable?
What is it that you do not understand?

What would you want to be shown?

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#46686

FromNobody <nobody@nowhere.com>
Date2013-06-02 11:22 +0100
Message-ID<pan.2013.06.02.10.21.57.630000@nowhere.com>
In reply to#46667
On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 08:44:36 -0700, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:

> CalledProcessError: Command '/home/nikos/public_html/cgi-bin/files.py' returned non-zero exit status 1 
>       args = (1, '/home/nikos/public_html/cgi-bin/files.py') 
>       cmd = '/home/nikos/public_html/cgi-bin/files.py' 
>       output = b'Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8\n\n<bod...n position 74: surrogates not allowed\n\n-->\n\n' 
>       returncode = 1 
>       with_traceback = <built-in method with_traceback of CalledProcessError object>

The traceback indicates that files.py terminated with a non-zero exit
code, indicating an error.

And that's *all* that can be determined from the information which you
have posted.

If you want to solve the problem, you'll need to make files.py generate
useful error messages, then capture them.

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