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| First post | 2012-07-23 17:59 +1000 |
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Re: the meaning of r’.......‘ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 17:59 +1000
Re: the meaning of r’.......‘ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 08:07 +0000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-07-23 08:55 -0400
Re: the meaning of rユ.......�¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 23:06 +1000
Re: the meaning of r¹.......?34 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-07-23 09:22 -0400
Re: the meaning of rユ.......�¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 15:59 +0000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......�¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 02:10 +1000
Re: the meaning of r?.......?¾ Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-23 16:46 -0400
Re: the meaning of r`.......` Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-07-24 10:45 +0200
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Alex Strickland <sscc@mweb.co.za> - 2012-07-23 15:10 +0200
Re: the meaning of rユ.......�¾ Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-07-23 09:22 -0400
Re: the meaning of rユ.......�¾ Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2012-07-24 00:01 -0700
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:24 +0200
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 23:35 +1000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:52 +0200
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:55 +0200
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:59 +0200
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Alain Ketterlin <alain@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> - 2012-07-23 16:08 +0200
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-23 15:43 +0100
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 16:43 +0200
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-23 16:29 +0100
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2012-07-23 15:56 +0000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 02:09 +1000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-07-25 00:35 +1000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 00:50 +1000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Maarten <maarten.sneep@knmi.nl> - 2012-07-24 07:44 -0700
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-07-25 13:07 +1000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 14:11 +1000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-25 06:07 +0000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-25 07:37 +0100
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-07-25 16:43 +1000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-25 08:13 +0100
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 09:21 -0600
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 10:36 -0600
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 02:42 +1000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-07-24 09:59 -0700
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 10:02 -0400
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 17:10 +0000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 08:08 -0700
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Jan Riechers <janpeterr@freenet.de> - 2012-07-23 21:29 +0300
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 10:10 -0400
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 16:40 +0200
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 00:53 +1000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 11:02 -0400
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 16:54 +0000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 00:19 +1000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 16:42 +0200
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-23 14:10 -0400
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 16:53 +0000
Re: the meaning of r?.......ï¾ MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2012-07-23 16:46 +0100
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 16:33 +0000
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2012-07-23 14:43 -0400
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:26 +0200
Re: the meaning of rïŸ.......ïŸ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 15:49 +0000
Re: the meaning of rïŸ.......ïŸ Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2012-07-26 16:34 +0300
Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2012-07-23 12:19 -0400
Re: the meaning of r?.......?¾ Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-23 13:44 -0400
Re: the meaning of r’.......‘ John Roth <johnroth1@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 17:50 -0700
Re: the meaning of r’.......‘ John Roth <johnroth1@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 17:50 -0700
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-07-23 16:29 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2482.1343057226.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #25881 |
On 23/07/2012 15:43, Henrik Faber wrote: > On 23.07.2012 16:43, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >>> Apparently, not all characters are fine with Python. Why can I not have >>> domino tiles are identifier characters? >>> >>>>>> 🀻 = 9 >>> File "<stdin>", line 1 >>> 🀻 = 9 >>> ^ >>> SyntaxError: invalid character in identifier >>> >>> I think there needs to be a PEP for that. >> >> well get writing then as there's nothing to stop you. > > I might wait until April 1st next year with that ;-) > > Best regards, > Henrik > Sorry not with you is there something special about April 1st next year? -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.
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| From | John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> |
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| Date | 2012-07-23 15:56 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <jujs7j$hd2$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #25890 |
In <mailman.2482.1343057226.4697.python-list@python.org> Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> Sorry not with you is there something special about April 1st next year?
In the United States, April 1st (also known as April Fool's Day) is an
occasion for practical jokes, faked 'news' stories, and general silliness.
I don't know if it is observed outside the U.S.
--
John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs
gordon@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears
-- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb Tinies"
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-07-24 02:09 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2536.1343136913.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #25895 |
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:56 AM, John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> wrote: > In <mailman.2482.1343057226.4697.python-list@python.org> Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> writes: > >> Sorry not with you is there something special about April 1st next year? > > In the United States, April 1st (also known as April Fool's Day) is an > occasion for practical jokes, faked 'news' stories, and general silliness. > > I don't know if it is observed outside the U.S. It is, in many places. It's one of the few truly international holidays. The next nearest, Pi Day, has two different dates (the American and the European - of course, here in Australia, we celebrate both). ChrisA
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| From | Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> |
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| Date | 2012-07-25 00:35 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <87r4s1rzv2.fsf@benfinney.id.au> |
| In reply to | #25989 |
Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> writes: > […] Pi Day, has two different dates (the American and the European - > of course, here in Australia, we celebrate both). What would be the two days? The 14th day of the 3rd month, and, um, what? Or do you Australians have the third day of the fourteenth month? -- \ “Earth gets its price for what Earth gives us.” —James Russell | `\ Lowell | _o__) | Ben Finney
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-07-25 00:50 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2542.1343141410.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #25992 |
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> writes: > >> […] Pi Day, has two different dates (the American and the European - >> of course, here in Australia, we celebrate both). > > What would be the two days? The 14th day of the 3rd month, and, um, > what? Americans celebrate March 14th as 3.14; some Europeans celebrate July 22nd as 22/7 (which is 3.142857, fairly close to 3.14159). We claim both, and also June 28th (aka Tau Day or Two Pi Day, 6.28). > Or do you Australians have the third day of the fourteenth month? The extra months would explain why we're ever so much more productive than the rest of the world! Now if only we could be productive at more than just dole bludging... ChrisA
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| From | Maarten <maarten.sneep@knmi.nl> |
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| Date | 2012-07-24 07:44 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <45c8f299-3420-4836-afcb-6e07957ba344@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #25992 |
On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:35:29 PM UTC+2, Ben Finney wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: > > > […] Pi Day, has two different dates (the American and the European - > > of course, here in Australia, we celebrate both). > > What would be the two days? The 14th day of the 3rd month, and, um, > what? > > Or do you Australians have the third day of the fourteenth month? You just missed it: 22/7 Maarten
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| From | Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> |
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| Date | 2012-07-25 13:07 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <87lii8sfmw.fsf@benfinney.id.au> |
| In reply to | #25996 |
Maarten <maarten.sneep@knmi.nl> writes: > You just missed it: > 22/7 Which is appropriate, since 22/7 misses π by a wide margin. (355/113 is my favourite approximation to π, and is far more accurate.) −1 on associating 22/7 as anything to do with π. +1 on celebrating τ day! <URL:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG7vhMMXagQ> -- \ “Why am I an atheist? I ask you: Why is anybody not an atheist? | `\ Everyone starts out being an atheist.” —Andy Rooney, _Boston | _o__) Globe_ 1982-05-30 | Ben Finney
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-07-25 14:11 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2560.1343189471.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #26020 |
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > Which is appropriate, since 22/7 misses π by a wide margin. (355/113 is > my favourite approximation to π, and is far more accurate.) 22/7 is no worse than 3.14, though. Sure, 355/113 is closer still, but how often do really need more accuracy than 22/7? 3.142857 vs 3.141593 - it's 0.04% out, versus 3.14 which is 0.05% out. Anyway, 355/113 makes a really awkward date to celebrate. :) ChrisA
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2012-07-25 06:07 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <500f8d0c$0$11120$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #26020 |
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:07:03 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Maarten <maarten.sneep@knmi.nl> writes: > >> You just missed it: >> 22/7 > > Which is appropriate, since 22/7 misses π by a wide margin. (355/113 is > my favourite approximation to π, and is far more accurate.) Approximation? Pffft. I use the exact value: π = 16*arctan(1/5) - 4*arctan(1/239) For those lacking ambition, another approximation is: π ≈ 9801 ÷ (2206*√2) Other interesting approximations are: π ≈ 9/5 + √(9/5) π ≈ √√(2143/22) See more here: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PiFormulas.html http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PiApproximations.html > −1 on associating 22/7 as anything to do with π. I believe that 22/7 is the closest approximation to π with a denominator under 100. It is the second convergent of the continued fraction: π = [3; 7, 15, 1, 292, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 3, 1, 14, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, ...] which means that, like it or not, 22/7 *is* associated with π. -- Steven
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-07-25 07:37 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2561.1343198175.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #26022 |
On 25/07/2012 07:07, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:07:03 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > >> Maarten <maarten.sneep@knmi.nl> writes: >> >>> You just missed it: >>> 22/7 >> >> Which is appropriate, since 22/7 misses π by a wide margin. (355/113 is >> my favourite approximation to π, and is far more accurate.) > > Approximation? Pffft. I use the exact value: > > π = 16*arctan(1/5) - 4*arctan(1/239) > > > For those lacking ambition, another approximation is: > > π ≈ 9801 ÷ (2206*√2) > > Other interesting approximations are: > > π ≈ 9/5 + √(9/5) > > π ≈ √√(2143/22) > > See more here: > > http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PiFormulas.html > http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PiApproximations.html > > >> −1 on associating 22/7 as anything to do with π. > > I believe that 22/7 is the closest approximation to π with a denominator > under 100. It is the second convergent of the continued fraction: > > π = [3; 7, 15, 1, 292, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 3, 1, 14, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, ...] > > which means that, like it or not, 22/7 *is* associated with π. > > > Any civil engineers reading this who would find 22/7 perfectly adequate for their task? -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.
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| From | Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> |
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| Date | 2012-07-25 16:43 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <87boj4s5lx.fsf@benfinney.id.au> |
| In reply to | #26024 |
Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> writes: > Any civil engineers reading this who would find 22/7 perfectly > adequate for their task? Civil engineering? Pffft, that deals with only a few orders of magnitude range at most. “π is roughly 3” is usually good enough in that arena :-) -- \ “You don't need a book of any description to help you have some | `\ kind of moral awareness.” —Dr. Francesca Stavrakoloulou, bible | _o__) scholar, 2011-05-08 | Ben Finney
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-07-25 08:13 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2562.1343200369.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #26025 |
On 25/07/2012 07:43, Ben Finney wrote: > Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> writes: > >> Any civil engineers reading this who would find 22/7 perfectly >> adequate for their task? > > Civil engineering? Pffft, that deals with only a few orders of magnitude > range at most. “π is roughly 3” is usually good enough in that arena :-) > Love it. I, personally, hereby take back everything adverse that anyone else may ever have written about you :) -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.
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| From | Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-07-25 09:21 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2625.1343329350.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #26020 |
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > +1 on celebrating τ day! <URL:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG7vhMMXagQ> Also: http://tauday.com/
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| From | Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-07-24 10:36 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2544.1343147852.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #25992 |
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote: > Americans celebrate March 14th as 3.14; some Europeans celebrate July > 22nd as 22/7 (which is 3.142857, fairly close to 3.14159). We claim > both, and also June 28th (aka Tau Day or Two Pi Day, 6.28). Hey now, Tau Day is an American invention, so no claiming it as an Australian thing. We just need to get a few more people here to start observing it; that's all.
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-07-25 02:42 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2545.1343148164.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #25992 |
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote: >> Americans celebrate March 14th as 3.14; some Europeans celebrate July >> 22nd as 22/7 (which is 3.142857, fairly close to 3.14159). We claim >> both, and also June 28th (aka Tau Day or Two Pi Day, 6.28). > > Hey now, Tau Day is an American invention, so no claiming it as an > Australian thing. We just need to get a few more people here to start > observing it; that's all. I never did. We celebrate it as Two Pi Day here. You're most welcome to lay claim to its invention, as long as you release it under an acceptable Free license. Of course, you're legitimately able to put non-commercial clauses in (after what happened to Christmas, I wouldn't blame you), but we'd just have to invent our own day to celebrate instead. The calendar perceives censorship as damage, and routes around it... ChrisA
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| From | Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> |
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| Date | 2012-07-24 09:59 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2546.1343148674.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #25992 |
Ian Kelly wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote: >> Americans celebrate March 14th as 3.14; some Europeans celebrate July >> 22nd as 22/7 (which is 3.142857, fairly close to 3.14159). We claim >> both, and also June 28th (aka Tau Day or Two Pi Day, 6.28). > > Hey now, Tau Day is an American invention, so no claiming it as an > Australian thing. We just need to get a few more people here to start > observing it; that's all. I'm in! At least for next year. Assuming I remember... ~Ethan~
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| From | Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-07-24 10:02 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2538.1343138619.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #25895 |
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote: > It is, in many places. It's one of the few truly international > holidays. The next nearest, Pi Day, has two different dates (the > American and the European - of course, here in Australia, we celebrate > both). Here in Canada we celebrate Tau day. -- Devin (... I wish.)
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2012-07-23 17:10 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <500d8597$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #25890 |
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:29:33 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 23/07/2012 15:43, Henrik Faber wrote: [...] >> I might wait until April 1st next year with that ;-) >> >> Best regards, >> Henrik >> >> > Sorry not with you is there something special about April 1st next year? As a Brit (or at least someone with a .uk email address) surely you know about the British tradition of April Fools jokes on 1st of April? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_tree_hoax http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0401/ http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0313/ http://entrian.com/goto/ And perhaps most relevant of all: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3117/ -- Steven
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| From | rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-07-23 08:08 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <b04b7ddd-f099-4258-81b7-915c0acbae21@x6g2000pbh.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #25879 |
> On 23.07.2012 15:55, Henrik Faber wrote: > > >> Dear Lord. .... There is a more universal side of unicode than the characters for various natural languages -- math. For example I would prefer - λ to lambda - ∧ to and (Oh well it seems there's also a ⋀ -- strengthening your case) - ≠ to != And how about some of these ⟦ ⟧ ⟨ ⟩ ⟪ ⟫ ⟮ ⟯ ⟬ ⟭ 〈 〉 ⦑ ⦒ ⧼ ⧽ ﹙ ﹚ ﹛ ﹜ ﹝ ﹞ ⸢ ⸣ ⸤ ⸥ ⦋ ⦌ ⦍ ⦎ ⦏ ⦐ ⁅ ⁆ ⦓ ⦔ ⦕ ⦖ for collections and lookup?
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| From | Jan Riechers <janpeterr@freenet.de> |
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| Date | 2012-07-23 21:29 +0300 |
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2491.1343068332.4697.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #25870 |
On 23.07.2012 16:55, Henrik Faber wrote: > On 23.07.2012 15:52, Henrik Faber wrote: > >> but I would hate for >> Python to include them into identifiers. Then again, I'm pretty sure >> this is not planned anytime soon. > > Dear Lord. > > Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec 8 2011, 15:26:58) > [GCC 4.5.2] on linux2 > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>>> fööbär = 3 >>>> fööbär > 3 > > I didn't know this. How awful. > > Regards, > Johannes > I can't understand at all why this (even as German) is supported. Programs and developments, and in particular Python, should not only be accessible but also understandable by everyone - meaning that I don't exclude folks by starting to write my code in Esperanto letters. Otherwise the next thing one might working on is a script normalizer which Engli-fies foreign variable names... similar to Py2to3. Outside for display usage it has a right place to make usage of Unicode, like for French with all the accents Danish, Swedish and other languages, but some "old"-standards should stay in place, meaning to use English, so it stays accessible and understandable. Jan
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