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International translation of docs - is it a scam?

Started byChris Gonnerman <chris@gonnerman.org>
First post2011-06-07 07:46 -0500
Last post2011-06-07 17:57 +0100
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  International translation of docs - is it a scam? Chris Gonnerman <chris@gonnerman.org> - 2011-06-07 07:46 -0500
    Re: International translation of docs - is it a scam? Alain Ketterlin <alain@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> - 2011-06-07 16:55 +0200
      Re: International translation of docs - is it a scam? Peter Pearson <ppearson@nowhere.invalid> - 2011-06-07 16:27 +0000
        Re: International translation of docs - is it a scam? Phil Thompson <phil@riverbankcomputing.com> - 2011-06-07 17:57 +0100

#7153 — International translation of docs - is it a scam?

FromChris Gonnerman <chris@gonnerman.org>
Date2011-06-07 07:46 -0500
SubjectInternational translation of docs - is it a scam?
Message-ID<mailman.2530.1307450845.9059.python-list@python.org>
On the 30th of May, I received an email from a man (I'll leave out his 
name, but it was properly male) offering to translate the docs for the 
gdmodule (which I maintain) into Belorussian.  He wanted my approval, 
and a link from my page to his.  This seemed fair, so I told him to tell 
me when it was ready.

This morning, I received an email from him that it was done.  I looked 
at the page, and it looked good.  Of course, I don't read Belorussian, 
but it had the right "shape" and linked to my downloads.  But at the 
same time, I received an email with a female sender name on it.  It was 
worded almost identically to the first email, but was offering to 
translate my WConio page into Belorussian.

The Belorussian gdmodule page is here:

http://webhostingrating.com/libs/gdmodule-be

Now, webhostingrating.com is a site that rates web hosting providers, 
and at least on the surface seems legitimate.  I can't find any links 
from their front page to the section with the Belorussian 
translation(s), which strikes me odd.

What's going on here?  Has anyone else been approached by these people?

-- Chris.

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#7157

FromAlain Ketterlin <alain@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr>
Date2011-06-07 16:55 +0200
Message-ID<8739jl7ktb.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr>
In reply to#7153
Chris Gonnerman <chris@gonnerman.org> writes:

> On the 30th of May, I received an email from a man (I'll leave out his
> name, but it was properly male) offering to translate the docs for the
> gdmodule (which I maintain) into Belorussian. [...]

The same has happened on the gcc list, where it has been considered a
scam. See, e.g.,

http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2011-05/msg00046.html

and messages referenced therein.

-- Alain.

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#7161

FromPeter Pearson <ppearson@nowhere.invalid>
Date2011-06-07 16:27 +0000
Message-ID<9571rkFq0mU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#7157
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 16:55:28 +0200, Alain Ketterlin wrote:
> Chris Gonnerman <chris@gonnerman.org> writes:
>
>> On the 30th of May, I received an email from a man (I'll leave out his
>> name, but it was properly male) offering to translate the docs for the
>> gdmodule (which I maintain) into Belorussian. [...]
>
> The same has happened on the gcc list, where it has been considered a
> scam. See, e.g.,
>
> http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2011-05/msg00046.html
>
> and messages referenced therein.

Interesting.  That link leads to a discussion of presumed link
farmers using Google Translate to translate other people's pages,
in exchange for links.

So I asked Google Translate to translate Chris Gonnerman's
page, http://newcenturycomputers.net/projects/gdmodule.html
, and the results were identical (on cursory examination) to
the page produced by Gonnerman's correspondent, as reported
in the original post.  (I won't post that URL here lest I
support the farm.)

-- 
To email me, substitute nowhere->spamcop, invalid->net.

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#7162

FromPhil Thompson <phil@riverbankcomputing.com>
Date2011-06-07 17:57 +0100
Message-ID<mailman.2534.1307466279.9059.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#7161
On 7 Jun 2011 16:27:32 GMT, Peter Pearson <ppearson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 16:55:28 +0200, Alain Ketterlin wrote:
>> Chris Gonnerman <chris@gonnerman.org> writes:
>>
>>> On the 30th of May, I received an email from a man (I'll leave out his
>>> name, but it was properly male) offering to translate the docs for the
>>> gdmodule (which I maintain) into Belorussian. [...]
>>
>> The same has happened on the gcc list, where it has been considered a
>> scam. See, e.g.,
>>
>> http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2011-05/msg00046.html
>>
>> and messages referenced therein.
> 
> Interesting.  That link leads to a discussion of presumed link
> farmers using Google Translate to translate other people's pages,
> in exchange for links.
> 
> So I asked Google Translate to translate Chris Gonnerman's
> page, http://newcenturycomputers.net/projects/gdmodule.html
> , and the results were identical (on cursory examination) to
> the page produced by Gonnerman's correspondent, as reported
> in the original post.  (I won't post that URL here lest I
> support the farm.)

I was also asked for permission to translate a page from the PyQt site. I
agreed to this and was given a link containing the translation. I declined
to link to the page from my site (I will only link to sites with a proven
track record.) I note that the page has now been removed.

Phil

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