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  datetime question Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-08 23:11 +0200
    Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-08 21:29 +0000
      Re: datetime question Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-09 00:01 +0200
        Re: datetime question Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-08 17:06 -0500
          Re: datetime question rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-11-11 14:49 -0800
            Re: datetime question Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-11 18:18 -0500
        Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-08 22:18 +0000
        Re: datetime question Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-11-08 22:29 +0000
          Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-09 09:39 +1100
            Re: datetime question Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-09 10:30 -0500
          Re: datetime question Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-11-09 10:39 -0500
          Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-10 09:25 +1100
        Re: datetime question Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-08 22:49 +0000
          Re: datetime question Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-09 01:02 +0200
            Re: datetime question Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-11-08 23:23 +0000
            Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-09 10:30 +1100
            Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-09 00:12 +0000
            Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-09 12:45 +0000
              Re: datetime question Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-09 15:43 +0200
                Re: datetime question unknown <unknown@unknown.com> - 2013-11-10 12:52 +0000
            Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-09 23:52 +1100
    Re: datetime question Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-11-09 19:55 -0500
    Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-10 19:47 +1100
    Re: datetime question Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-11-10 04:13 -0500
    Re: datetime question Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-11 11:57 +0200
      Re: datetime question Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-11 08:41 -0500
        Re: datetime question Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-11 09:14 -0500
          Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 01:25 +1100
          Re: datetime question Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-11 09:36 -0500
          Re: datetime question Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-11 20:59 -0500
          Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 13:02 +1100
          Re: datetime question Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-11 21:02 -0500
          Re: datetime question Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-12 19:30 -0500
          Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 11:40 +1100
      Re: datetime question Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-11 19:19 +0000
        Re: datetime question Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2013-11-11 11:39 -0800
          Re: datetime question Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-11-11 20:45 +0000
          Re: datetime question mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2013-11-11 23:21 +0000
            Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-11 23:48 +0000
              Re: datetime question Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-11-12 04:49 +0000
                Re: datetime question alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 17:25 +1000
                  Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 18:35 +1100
                  Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-12 09:20 +0000
                Re: datetime question Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-12 09:18 -0500
    Re: datetime question Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 12:15 +0200
      Re: datetime question Andy Lawton <andy@andylawton.eu> - 2013-11-12 12:47 +0000
        Re: datetime question Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 15:32 +0200
          Re: datetime question Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 09:03 -0500
            Re: datetime question Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 16:12 +0200
              Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 01:57 +1100
                Re: datetime question Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 17:24 +0200
                  Re: datetime question Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-11-12 09:54 -0600
                    Re: datetime question Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 17:57 +0200
                      Re: datetime question Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-11-12 10:12 -0600
                      Re: datetime question William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2013-11-12 11:14 -0500
                      Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-12 16:30 +0000
                      Re: datetime question MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-11-12 19:09 +0000
                      Re: datetime question Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 14:14 -0500
                      Re: datetime question Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 19:24 +0000
                        Re: datetime question Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-12 19:38 -0500
                      Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 09:42 +1100
                      Re: datetime question Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-12 19:37 -0500
                      Re: datetime question MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-11-13 01:08 +0000
                    Re: datetime question Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-11-12 16:11 +0000
                      Re: datetime question Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-12 19:43 -0500
        Re: datetime question Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 19:20 +0000

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#58864 — datetime question

Is there someway to write the following line even better with the 
ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to 
alter the line manually when time changes?

lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( 
'%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format

Thanks.

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#58869

On 08/11/2013 21:11, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Is there someway to write the following line even better with the
> ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to
> alter the line manually when time changes?
>
> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format
>
> Thanks.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19774709/use-python-to-find-out-if-a-timezone-currently-in-daylight-savings-time

-- 
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence

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#58870

Στις 8/11/2013 11:29 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
> On 08/11/2013 21:11, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>> Is there someway to write the following line even better with the
>> ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to
>> alter the line manually when time changes?
>>
>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19774709/use-python-to-find-out-if-a-timezone-currently-in-daylight-savings-time
>
>


I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner.
Don't get me wrong but i had the lastvisit calculated on 1 statement and 
i want to retain it this way.

Is it possible?

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#58871

rurpy?  can you help?

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
> Στις 8/11/2013 11:29 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>>
>> On 08/11/2013 21:11, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there someway to write the following line even better with the
>>> ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to
>>> alter the line manually when time changes?
>>>
>>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
>>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19774709/use-python-to-find-out-if-a-timezone-currently-in-daylight-savings-time
>>
>>
>
>
> I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner.
> Don't get me wrong but i had the lastvisit calculated on 1 statement and i
> want to retain it this way.
>
> Is it possible?
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list



-- 
Joel Goldstick
http://joelgoldstick.com

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#59113

On Friday, November 8, 2013 3:06:33 PM UTC-7, Joel Goldstick wrote:
> rurpy?  can you help?

No, sorry.  For your future reference, if there is a 
question I can help with (have the technical knowledge, 
haven't seen a good answer yet, have time, etc) I will
post my attempt at an answer.  

So lack of such a response is a pretty good clue that
I can't help at the current time, and there is no need
to ping me explicitly.

I do appreciate your "genuine" concern for Nikos and 
that he gets a good answer though.

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#59117

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:49 PM,  <rurpy@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Friday, November 8, 2013 3:06:33 PM UTC-7, Joel Goldstick wrote:
>> rurpy?  can you help?
>
> No, sorry.  For your future reference, if there is a
> question I can help with (have the technical knowledge,
> haven't seen a good answer yet, have time, etc) I will
> post my attempt at an answer.
>
> So lack of such a response is a pretty good clue that
> I can't help at the current time, and there is no need
> to ping me explicitly.

I guess the word ping can make sense as to bring attention to a
particular person.  I believed I responded on the mailing list.
>
> I do appreciate your "genuine" concern for Nikos and
> that he gets a good answer though.

So, since you don't like to be emailed directly, (I'm guessing), I
will respond here.

Its nice that an occasional participant sticks up and sees the bright
of side of that particular OP.  My answer was an attempt at humor,
specifically for you Rurpy, since after your splendid defense of the
OP, he returned to the pattern of asking a question, getting a good
answer, then replying with a reply like "no, I want a one liner".
Then, starting a new thread and asking the same question again.

I don't think the idea of a mailing list or news group is to spoon
feed anyone code.  That is  what you pay someone to do.  If you want
advice and guidance, its polite to try to learn from it, and move the
conversation forward.

have a nice day
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list



-- 
Joel Goldstick
http://joelgoldstick.com

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#58874

On 08/11/2013 22:01, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Στις 8/11/2013 11:29 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>> On 08/11/2013 21:11, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>> Is there someway to write the following line even better with the
>>> ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to
>>> alter the line manually when time changes?
>>>
>>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
>>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19774709/use-python-to-find-out-if-a-timezone-currently-in-daylight-savings-time
>>
>
> I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner.
> Don't get me wrong but i had the lastvisit calculated on 1 statement and
> i want to retain it this way.
>
> Is it possible?

Yes, but I'll leave you to work out how to do it, on the grounds that I 
have a very, very strong suspicion about the way this thread is going to go.

-- 
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence

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#58876

On 2013-11-08, ?????????? ?????????????????????? <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Is there someway to [...]

>> http://stackoverflow.com/[...]

> I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner.
> Don't get me wrong but i had the lastvisit calculated on 1 statement
> and i want to retain it this way.

It's that global newline shortage again.  Just because a few people
get killed in a newline mine they all go on strike...

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! Mary Tyler Moore's
                                  at               SEVENTH HUSBAND is wearing
                              gmail.com            my DACRON TANK TOP in a
                                                   cheap hotel in HONOLULU!

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#58945

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> It's that global newline shortage again.  Just because a few people
> get killed in a newline mine they all go on strike...

It's a conspiracy! The government kills a few miners (with their
contrail mind-control stuffo) to push the price of newlines up, then
taxes us to the hilt and claims it's to fund development of artificial
newlines in labs! I tell you, man, those artificial newlines may LOOK
the same, but mark my words, one day they're all gonna rise up and
murder us in their sleep...

ChrisA
been up all night and is starting to get stupid

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#58949

In article <mailman.2300.1384009442.18130.python-list@python.org>,
 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > It's that global newline shortage again.  Just because a few people
> > get killed in a newline mine they all go on strike...
> 
> It's a conspiracy! The government kills a few miners (with their
> contrail mind-control stuffo) to push the price of newlines up, then
> taxes us to the hilt and claims it's to fund development of artificial
> newlines in labs! I tell you, man, those artificial newlines may LOOK
> the same, but mark my words, one day they're all gonna rise up and
> murder us in their sleep...

I only use organic, free-range, fair-traded newlines in my code.  Have 
you ever seen what happens on those big commercial whitespace farms?  
The newlines are kept in justified lines, smashed up against the right 
margin so close they can't even move, and forced to eat recycled EBCDIC 
punctuation!

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#58961

On Saturday 09 November 2013 10:33:57 Chris Angelico did opine:

> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> 
wrote:
> > It's that global newline shortage again.  Just because a few people
> > get killed in a newline mine they all go on strike...
> 
> It's a conspiracy! The government kills a few miners (with their
> contrail mind-control stuffo) to push the price of newlines up, then
> taxes us to the hilt and claims it's to fund development of artificial
> newlines in labs! I tell you, man, those artificial newlines may LOOK
> the same, but mark my words, one day they're all gonna rise up and
> murder us in their sleep...
> 
> ChrisA
> been up all night and is starting to get stupid

Ya know, folks like Nick would have me signing off.  Fortunately there are 
kill files. But the backscatter he creates I am still forced to read, or 
more usually skip.

This list recently has been far more about venting because GG is broken, or 
Nicks un-teachability than about real code, by a large margin.

Then one of you frustrated standup comics comes along, and gives me a VBG, 
and its suddenly all worth it.  Thank You Chris.

Cheers, Gene
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

Hark, the Herald Tribune sings,
Advertising wondrous things.

Angels we have heard on High
Tell us to go out and Buy.
		-- Tom Lehrer
A pen in the hand of this president is far more
dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of
         law-abiding citizens.

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#58971

On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote:
> Ya know, folks like Nick would have me signing off.  Fortunately there are
> kill files. But the backscatter he creates I am still forced to read, or
> more usually skip.
>
> Then one of you frustrated standup comics comes along, and gives me a VBG,
> and its suddenly all worth it.  Thank You Chris.

:) Don't just thank me, Grant and Roy were key to it too - and the
whole "there's no shortage of newlines" thing started with Steven
D'Aprano (I think), and it's a ripe field for harvest :)

But hey. If you're going to have to read backscatter, may as well make
it funny...

ChrisA

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#58879

On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:

> I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner.

Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this.

-- 
Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com

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#58881

Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
> On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>
>> I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner.
>
> Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this.
>


Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just 
found:

You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button.

The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies.

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#58882

On 2013-11-08 23:02, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>> On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>
>>> I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner.
>>
>> Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this.
>>
>
>
> Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just found:
>
> You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button.
>
> The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies.

Please do not advertise your piracy site here. It is not welcome in this forum.

-- 
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
  that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
  an underlying truth."
   -- Umberto Eco

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#58883

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος
<nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
> Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>
>> On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>
>>> I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner.
>>
>>
>> Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this.
>>
>
>
> Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just
> found:
>
> You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button.
>
> The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies.

Interesting. Your idea of a "gift" (quite different from a "git",
which is grammatically valid in your usage, though not what you
intended) is to offer something you stole AND which you're already
giving away to anyone who comes to your web site. This is your
incentive to us to write your code for you.

Actually, I think offering people free stolen bile for dummies is a
great business model. Nobody else is trying that!

If you want to offer something tempting, it's most likely going to be
money, and quite a bit of it, as stated in another thread. Plus,
you'll actually have to respect someone's design choices. Good luck on
that.

ChrisA

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#58886

On 08/11/2013 23:02, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>> On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>
>>> I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner.
>>
>> Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this.
>>
>
>
> Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just
> found:
>
> You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button.
>
> The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies.

http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/slang/tea_leaf

-- 
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence

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#58930

On 08/11/2013 23:02, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
> Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>> On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>
>>> I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner.
>>
>> Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this.
>>
>
>
> Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just
> found:
>
> You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button.
>
> The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies.

Why is Web Security for Dummies missing?

-- 
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence

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#58939

Στις 9/11/2013 2:45 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
> On 08/11/2013 23:02, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>> Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>>> On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>>
>>>> I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner.
>>>
>>> Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just
>> found:
>>
>> You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button.
>>
>> The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies.
>
> Why is Web Security for Dummies missing?
>


It's not missing.
Its there, check again.
Just click on the Blue download button and select it from the list of 
buttons.

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#59006

On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 15:43:53 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:

> Στις 9/11/2013 2:45 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε:
>> On 08/11/2013 23:02, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>> Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε:
>>>> On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just
>>> found:
>>>
>>> You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button.
>>>
>>> The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies.
>>
>> Why is Web Security for Dummies missing?
>>
>>
> 
> It's not missing.
> Its there, check again.
> Just click on the Blue download button and select it from the list of
> buttons.

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