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Too many python installations. Should i remove them all and install the latest?

Started by	Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
First post	2013-05-31 08:20 -0700
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#46793

From	Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com>
Date	2013-06-03 14:35 +0000
Message-ID	<koi9k2$h9o$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to	#46679

On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 14:41:45 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:

> Nikos just
> needs to learn the skill of figuring out where his problems really are.
> 
Between the keyboard and the chair, obv.

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#46796

From	nagia.retsina@gmail.com
Date	2013-06-03 08:01 -0700
Message-ID	<b0f63999-6333-47aa-be9a-4e179a9d9fbd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#46793

Τη Δευτέρα, 3 Ιουνίου 2013 5:35:46 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Walter Hurry έγραψε:
> On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 14:41:45 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Nikos just
> 
> > needs to learn the skill of figuring out where his problems really are.
> 
> > 
> 
> Between the keyboard and the chair, obv.

Maybe you should tell us how you find out yours.

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#46802

From	Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-03 12:37 -0600
Message-ID	<mailman.2602.1370284658.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to	#46796

On 06/03/2013 09:01 AM, nagia.retsina@gmail.com wrote:
> Maybe you should tell us how you find out yours.

Chris and others have told you how they go about solving their problems.
 Quite a few times.  In fact repeating themselves even.  I think we've
run out of different ways to saying it now.

It's a process of research, tracing execution, understanding code flow,
beta-testing code on a local machine (not on a production server!).  Why
do you expect it to be any different?

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#46839

From	Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-03 23:33 -0700
Message-ID	<9306b2b1-b295-413e-9cc4-ed5bfe55d1f1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#46802

Could you please install them because i need to work?

a) pip (so that i can successfully run 'pip install pymysql'
b) development tools

I wiped the while perl away (leaving intact 2.6) but i wiped out pip at the proces to.

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#46842

From	Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-04 08:08 +0100
Message-ID	<mailman.2623.1370329727.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to	#46839

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On 4 Jun 2013 07:44, "Νικόλαος Κούρας" <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Could you please install them because i need to work?
>
> a) pip (so that i can successfully run 'pip install pymysql'
> b) development tools
>
> I wiped the while perl away (leaving intact 2.6) but i wiped out pip at
the proces to.
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Pip should be in your system's package manager. In Ubuntu it's available
through sudo apt-get install python-pip.

What are those development tools you speak of?

Why would you uninstall perl?

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#46843

From	Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-04 00:11 -0700
Message-ID	<1b3e3341-3429-4c3e-9ce4-38559e9d3006@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#46842

Τη Τρίτη, 4 Ιουνίου 2013 10:08:44 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Fábio Santos έγραψε:

> Pip should be in your system's package manager. In Ubuntu it's available through sudo apt-get install python-pip.
 
> What are those development tools you speak of?
> Why would you uninstall perl?

Sorry i meant Python, not Perl

I'm using CentOS.

So, i guess its something like 'yum install python-pip'
i cannot find it, have searched it in variosu ways.

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#46844

From	alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-04 00:21 -0700
Message-ID	<cfdf5da6-e367-4946-a009-0d47fe71ba34@be10g2000pbd.googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#46843

On Jun 4, 5:11 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So, i guess its something like 'yum install python-pip'
> i cannot find it, have searched it in variosu ways.

If you're going to claim to have tried something, can you at least
tell us what you tried? Because quelle surprise! the most obvious
combination of search terms works:

    [plone@localhost]$ yum search python-pip
    ...
    python-pip.noarch : Pip installs packages.  Python3 packages.  An
easy_install replacement

If you're not seeing this then you've broken your package manager,
possibly by overwriting the existing repositories with the new ones
you've added. It's next to impossible to tell, however, because we
don't have an access to what you mean by "variosu ways".

Expert tip: there's this AMAZING technology called "Google", which if
you visit their site, enter the cryptic incantation "python pip
centos", and click on *the very first link*, it actually provides you
with explicit directions! What brave new world that etc!

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#46847

From	Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-04 00:39 -0700
Message-ID	<e3f73297-2723-4e41-97d2-9b83dd04c355@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#46844

Τη Τρίτη, 4 Ιουνίου 2013 10:21:11 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης alex23 έγραψε:
> On Jun 4, 5:11 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > So, i guess its something like 'yum install python-pip'
> > i cannot find it, have searched it in variosu ways.
> 
> 
> 
> If you're going to claim to have tried something, can you at least
> tell us what you tried? Because quelle surprise! the most obvious
> combination of search terms works:

Well, since you dough me here it is:

nikos@superhost.gr [~]# yum search python-pip
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
Determining fastest mirrors
 * base: mirror.netcologne.de
 * extras: mirror.optimate-server.de
 * updates: mirror.softaculous.com
base                                                                                                                                             | 3.7 kB     00:00
extras                                                                                                                                           | 3.5 kB     00:00
updates                                                                                                                                          | 3.4 kB     00:00
updates/primary_db                                                                                                                               | 2.6 MB     00:00
vz-base                                                                                                                                          |  951 B     00:00
vz-base                                                                                                                                                             3/3
vz-updates                                                                                                                                       |  951 B     00:00
No Matches found
nikos@superhost.gr [~]#

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#46856

From	Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-04 01:20 -0700
Message-ID	<49025258-4c96-4e1b-8afc-e2b0f2011598@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#46847

Still can't find it:

nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/data/apps]# yum search *pip*
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * base: mirror.netcologne.de
 * extras: mirror.optimate-server.de
 * updates: mirror.softaculous.com
No Matches found
nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/data/apps]#

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#46862

From	Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-04 02:49 -0700
Message-ID	<80207921-8df5-4bba-b121-eeca96a55258@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#46856

Okey found it.

since couldnt install pip i did:

easy_install pymysql

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#46872

From	Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-04 12:26 +0100
Message-ID	<mailman.2633.1370345192.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to	#46862

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On 4 Jun 2013 10:54, "Νικόλαος Κούρας" <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Okey found it.
>
> since couldnt install pip i did:
>
> easy_install pymysql

It is not the recommended way to install pip, but you can ironically
easy_install pip

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#46874

From	Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-04 12:29 +0100
Message-ID	<mailman.2635.1370345352.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to	#46862

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On 4 Jun 2013 12:26, "Fábio Santos" <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 4 Jun 2013 10:54, "Νικόλαος Κούρας" <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Okey found it.
> >
> > since couldnt install pip i did:
> >
> > easy_install pymysql
>
> It is not the recommended way to install pip, but you can ironically
easy_install pip

Sorry for double posting but my favorite web host has a lot of pythons. It
is very handy.

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#46909

From	Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-04 08:32 -0600
Message-ID	<mailman.2650.1370356384.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to	#46847

On 06/04/2013 01:39 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:
> Well, since you dough me here it is:

Did you even bother to google it?  If you did, you'd find that
python-pip is available in a semi-official repository called EPEL.  Just
about every RHEL and CentOS install should have EPEL installed.  Now
it's pip for Python 2.6 of course.  If you need python 3.3, there is a
repo out there (third-party of course) that google can help you find.

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#46715

From	Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-02 11:33 -0600
Message-ID	<mailman.2555.1370194423.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to	#46652

On 06/01/2013 01:51 AM, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:
> Τη Σάββατο, 1 Ιουνίου 2013 9:18:26 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris
> Angelico έγραψε:
> 
>> That would require that the repo have a 3.3.2 build in it. I don't 
>> know the Red Hat / CentOS policies there, but I know Debian stable
>>  wouldn't have anything so new - it takes time to test things.
> 
> Is there a way to change to some repo that contain the latest python
> 3.3.2 to yo yum it?

Let me brutally blunt here, nick:  have you googled for the answer or
are you just expecting us to do all your research for you?

I googled for this out of curiousity and found at least one third-party
repo that did have Python 3.3.x in it for CentOS/RHEL 6.4.  I'll give
you a free hint about finding it: sometimes you have to add RHEL to the
search term as well as CentOS, since CentOS is a free clone of RHEL.

>From now on, Νικόλαος, before asking a question like this on this list,
please state what google search terms you used, what you found, and why
the google searches did not turn up the information you seek.

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#46753

From	alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com>
Date	2013-06-02 19:16 -0700
Message-ID	<1745649e-0f7d-4475-88bb-7014d172201a@kt20g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#46605

On Jun 1, 1:20 am, Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why so many pythons in my system.

Because _you_ installed them. And we _know_ this because you've posted
multiple threads relating to your problems with _your_ installations
of Python 3. Even more entertainingly:

> root@nikos [~]# which python3
> /root/.local/lib/python2.7/bin/python3

You seem to have installed python3 inside of a local copy of
python2.7. Awesomely professional webhosting service you're providing
here.

> root@nikos [~]# python3
> Python 3.3.0 (default, Apr  6 2013, 01:53:31)
> [GCC 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-3)] on linux
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> exit()
>
> root@nikos [~]# python3.3
> Python 3.3.0 (default, Apr  6 2013, 01:53:31)
> [GCC 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-3)] on linux
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> exit()

Did you _really_ need to post this? Was it to have us confirm they
_are_ the same versions?

> did i screwed up my remote VPS which i host 10 peoples webpages?

STOP EXPERIMENTING ON YOUR PRODUCTION SERVER. You should have a test
server that is a mirror of your production on which you can _safely_
flail around ignorantly without _costing your customers_ in lost time
or data. They're sure as hell should _not_ be paying you to learn
Python badly.

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