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| Started by | Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira <renato.barbosa.pim.pereira@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2013-04-04 12:41 -0300 |
| Last post | 2013-04-14 00:08 +0530 |
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IDE for GUI Designer Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira <renato.barbosa.pim.pereira@gmail.com> - 2013-04-04 12:41 -0300
Re: IDE for GUI Designer CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2013-04-04 10:41 -0700
Re: IDE for GUI Designer Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-04-07 19:40 +0200
Re: IDE for GUI Designer Fabio Zadrozny <fabiofz@gmail.com> - 2013-04-07 16:04 -0300
Re: IDE for GUI Designer Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-04-13 20:31 +0200
Re: IDE for GUI Designer Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-04-14 00:08 +0530
| From | Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira <renato.barbosa.pim.pereira@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-04-04 12:41 -0300 |
| Subject | IDE for GUI Designer |
| Message-ID | <mailman.105.1365090072.3114.python-list@python.org> |
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Guys, is this, I wonder if there is an IDE with native support for the development of GUI's such as Netbeans with Swing, Visual Basic, etc., already tested the Boa Constructor, and PyQt, but did not like what I'm looking for is an IDE "all in one", ie power encode and draw the screens of the program, someone indicates some?, but what I would like to know everything together with an IDE: Coding + GUI (via visual elements) without the need to import or export anything, like so: I want a button, I click and drag it to a window, give two clicks and encode their actions, understand? Thanks for all.
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| From | CM <cmpython@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-04-04 10:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1596b1ee-c146-4221-a9e0-dbd447a83f04@p5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #42761 |
On Apr 4, 11:41 am, Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira <renato.barbosa.pim.pere...@gmail.com> wrote: > Guys, is this, I wonder if there is an IDE with native support for the > development of GUI's such as Netbeans with Swing, Visual Basic, etc., The term you want to use is "GUI Builder". Because there can be IDEs without a GUI builder. You want both. > already tested the Boa Constructor, and PyQt, but did not like what I'm looking What did you not like about Boa Constructor? PyQT is not an IDE nor is it a GUI builder. It is a "widget toolkit" (or "framework"). > for is an IDE "all in one", ie power encode and draw the screens of the > program, someone indicates some?, but what I would like to know everything > together with an IDE: Coding + GUI (via visual elements) without the need > to import or export anything, like so: I want a button, I click and drag it to > a window, give two clicks and encode their actions, understand? This is exactly what Boa Constructor does. > Thanks for all.
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| From | Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2013-04-07 19:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <20130407194031.ee59e3bc94b02b03d735990f@gmx.net> |
| In reply to | #42761 |
> Guys, is this, I wonder if there is an IDE with native support for the > development of GUI's A decent Python IDE would probably integrate well enough with any decent GUI builder. If there was one (decent GUI builder). Unfortunately there's afaik currently no GUI builder available for any of the Python GUI frameworks that actually makes use of the dynamic interpreted nature of Python (in a way comparable to Cocoa's Interface Builder or the Visualworks Smalltalk IDE). They are unfortunately all just conceived following the clumsy tedious static C++-ish code-generation method. X-( Sincerely, Wolfgang
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| From | Fabio Zadrozny <fabiofz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-04-07 16:04 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.250.1365361507.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #43007 |
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Well, I usually use the Qt Designer and it does work well for me. It generates a .ui file with it which has to be passed to pyuic to generate the actual Python code -- and you have to generate a subclass to implement the slots -- for that, I add an external builder to Eclipse, so, in the end it's mostly a matter of saving the ui in designer and going on to implement the actual code for the actions in PyDev/Eclipse (sure, you don't click on a link to add Python code, but for me that separation is good). Cheers, Fabio On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> wrote: > > Guys, is this, I wonder if there is an IDE with native support for the > > development of GUI's > > A decent Python IDE would probably integrate well enough with any decent > GUI builder. If there was one (decent GUI builder). > > Unfortunately there's afaik currently no GUI builder available for any > of the Python GUI frameworks that actually makes use of the dynamic > interpreted nature of Python (in a way comparable to Cocoa's Interface > Builder or the Visualworks Smalltalk IDE). They are unfortunately all > just conceived following the clumsy tedious static C++-ish > code-generation method. X-( > > Sincerely, > > Wolfgang > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list >
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| From | Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2013-04-13 20:31 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.567.1365877915.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #43012 |
> Well, I usually use the Qt Designer and it does work well for me. > > It generates a .ui file with it which has to be passed to pyuic to > generate the actual Python code Wow. Even one more step than with code generation directly from the GUI builder. Clumsy, tedious, static. Cocoa's Interface Builder shows how to do it even though Objective-C is a *compiled* language, unlike Python. Sincerely, Wolfgang
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| From | Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-04-14 00:08 +0530 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.570.1365878348.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #43012 |
On 2013-04-14 00:01, Wolfgang Keller wrote: >> Well, I usually use the Qt Designer and it does work well for me. >> >> It generates a .ui file with it which has to be passed to pyuic to >> generate the actual Python code > > Wow. > > Even one more step than with code generation directly from > the GUI builder. You don't have to use pyuic. You can load the .ui file directly from your program. > Clumsy, tedious, static. > > Cocoa's Interface Builder shows how to do it even though Objective-C is > a *compiled* language, unlike Python. The workflow is about the same, really. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco
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