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  Re: the meaning of r’.......‘ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 17:59 +1000
    Re: the meaning of r’.......‘ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 08:07 +0000
      Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-07-23 08:55 -0400
        Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 23:06 +1000
          Re: the meaning of r¹.......?3Ž4 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-07-23 09:22 -0400
          Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 15:59 +0000
            Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 02:10 +1000
            Re: the meaning of r?.......?¾ Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-23 16:46 -0400
            Re: the meaning of r`.......` Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-07-24 10:45 +0200
        Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Alex Strickland <sscc@mweb.co.za> - 2012-07-23 15:10 +0200
        Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾ Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-07-23 09:22 -0400
          Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾ Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2012-07-24 00:01 -0700
        Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:24 +0200
          Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 23:35 +1000
            Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:52 +0200
              Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:55 +0200
                Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:59 +0200
                  Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Alain Ketterlin <alain@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> - 2012-07-23 16:08 +0200
                  Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-23 15:43 +0100
                    Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 16:43 +0200
                      Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-23 16:29 +0100
                        Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2012-07-23 15:56 +0000
                          Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 02:09 +1000
                            Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-07-25 00:35 +1000
                              Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 00:50 +1000
                              Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Maarten <maarten.sneep@knmi.nl> - 2012-07-24 07:44 -0700
                                Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-07-25 13:07 +1000
                                  Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 14:11 +1000
                                  Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-25 06:07 +0000
                                    Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-25 07:37 +0100
                                      Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-07-25 16:43 +1000
                                        Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-25 08:13 +0100
                                  Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 09:21 -0600
                              Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 10:36 -0600
                              Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 02:42 +1000
                              Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-07-24 09:59 -0700
                          Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 10:02 -0400
                        Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 17:10 +0000
                    Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 08:08 -0700
                Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Jan Riechers <janpeterr@freenet.de> - 2012-07-23 21:29 +0300
              Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 10:10 -0400
                Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 16:40 +0200
                  Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 00:53 +1000
                  Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 11:02 -0400
                Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 16:54 +0000
              Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 00:19 +1000
                Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 16:42 +0200
                  Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-23 14:10 -0400
              Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 16:53 +0000
          Re: the meaning of r?.......ï¾ MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2012-07-23 16:46 +0100
          Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 16:33 +0000
            Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2012-07-23 14:43 -0400
        Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:26 +0200
        Re: the meaning of r.......ïŸ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 15:49 +0000
          Re: the meaning of r.......ïŸ Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2012-07-26 16:34 +0300
        Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2012-07-23 12:19 -0400
        Re: the meaning of r?.......?¾ Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-23 13:44 -0400
    Re: the meaning of r’.......‘ John Roth <johnroth1@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 17:50 -0700
    Re: the meaning of r’.......‘ John Roth <johnroth1@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 17:50 -0700

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#25841 — Re: the meaning of r’.......‘

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:56 PM, levi nie <levinie001@gmail.com> wrote:
> the meaning of r’.......‘？

It's a raw string.

http://docs.python.org/py3k/tutorial/introduction.html#strings

Chris Angelico

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#25843

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:59:42 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:56 PM, levi nie <levinie001@gmail.com> wrote:
>> the meaning of r’.......‘？
> 
> It's a raw string.

Technically, no, it's a SyntaxError, because the Original Poster has used 
some sort of "Smart Quotes" characters r’‘ instead of good old fashioned 
typewriter-style quotes r'' or r"".

If you're going to ask programming questions using an email client that 
changes what you type, including smart quotes, special hyphens or other 
characters, you're going to have a bad time.



-- 
Steven

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#25857 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

In article <500d0632$0$1504$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com>,
 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:

> Technically, no, it's a SyntaxError, because the Original Poster has used 
> some sort of "Smart Quotes" characters r’‘ instead of good old fashioned 
> typewriter-style quotes r'' or r"".
> 
> If you're going to ask programming questions using an email client that 
> changes what you type, including smart quotes, special hyphens or other 
> characters, you're going to have a bad time.

Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage 
of the full unicode character set.  Right now, we're working in ASCII 
and creating silly digrams/trigrams like r'' for raw strings (and triple-quotes for multi-line 
strings).  Not to mention <=, >=, ==, !=.  And in languages other than 
python, things like ->, => (arrows for structure membership), and so on.

When I first started writing C code, it was on ASR-33s which did not 
support curly baces.  We wrote ¥( for { and ¥) for } (although I think the translation was 
handled entirely in the TTY driver and the compiler was never in on the 
joke).  20 or 30 years from now, people are going to look back on us 
neanderthals and laugh about how we had to write r''.

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#25859 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
> Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage
> of the full unicode character set.  Right now, we're working in ASCII
> and creating silly digrams/trigrams like r'' for raw strings (and triple-quotes for multi-line
> strings).  Not to mention <=, >=, ==, !=.  And in languages other than
> python, things like ->, => (arrows for structure membership), and so on.

REXX predates Unicode, I think, or at least its widespread adoption,
but it has a non-ASCII operator:

http://www.rexswain.com/rexx.html#operators

But personally, I've always used backslash. It's nothing to do with
ASCII and everything to do with having it on the keyboard. Before you
get a language that uses full Unicode, you'll need to have fairly
generally available keyboards that have those keys.

ChrisA

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#25861 — Re: the meaning of r¹.......?3Ž4

In article <mailman.2463.1343048808.4697.python-list@python.org>,
 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:

> But personally, I've always used backslash. It's nothing to do with
> ASCII and everything to do with having it on the keyboard. Before you
> get a language that uses full Unicode, you'll need to have fairly
> generally available keyboards that have those keys.

The same was true of "languages that use full ASCII".  ASR-33s didn't 
support full ASCII.  Neither did punched cards.  All in good time.

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#25896 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:06:45 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
>> Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage
>> of the full unicode character set.  Right now, we're working in ASCII
>> and creating silly digrams/trigrams like r'' for raw strings (and
>> triple-quotes for multi-line strings).  Not to mention <=, >=, ==, !=. 
>> And in languages other than python, things like ->, => (arrows for
>> structure membership), and so on.
> 
> REXX predates Unicode, I think, or at least its widespread adoption, but
> it has a non-ASCII operator:
> 
> http://www.rexswain.com/rexx.html#operators

Only one? Pfft.

What's the difference between >> "Strictly greater than" and < "Greater 
than"?


> But personally, I've always used backslash. It's nothing to do with
> ASCII and everything to do with having it on the keyboard. Before you
> get a language that uses full Unicode, you'll need to have fairly
> generally available keyboards that have those keys.

Or sensible, easy to remember mnemonics for additional characters. Back 
in 1984, Apple Macs made it trivial to enter useful non-ASCII characters 
from the keyboard. E.g.:

Shift-4 gave $
Option-4 gave ¢
Option-c gave ©
Option-r gave ®

Dead-keys made accented characters easy too:

Option-u o gave ö
Option-u e gave ë

etc. And because it was handled by the operating system, *every* 
application supported it, automatically.



-- 
Steven

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#25897 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:59 AM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
>> http://www.rexswain.com/rexx.html#operators
>
> Only one? Pfft.
>
> What's the difference between >> "Strictly greater than" and < "Greater
> than"?

The non-strict forms strip trailing spaces off strings before
comparing. I can't remember now if there are other differences.

ChrisA

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#25920 — Re: the meaning of r?.......?¾

On 23 Jul 2012 15:59:59 GMT, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:


> 
> What's the difference between >> "Strictly greater than" and < "Greater 
> than"?
>
	Massive confusion?

	I think you meant to compare
		>>
with
		>
NOT
		<
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
        wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#25969 — Re: the meaning of r`.......`

Am 23.07.2012 17:59 schrieb Steven D'Aprano:

 >> Before you
>> get a language that uses full Unicode, you'll need to have fairly
>> generally available keyboards that have those keys.

Or at least keys or key combinations for the stuff you need, which might 
differ e. g. with the country you live in. There are countries which 
have keyboards with äöüß, others with èàéî, and so on.


> Or sensible, easy to remember mnemonics for additional characters. Back
> in 1984, Apple Macs made it trivial to enter useful non-ASCII characters
> from the keyboard. E.g.:
>
> Shift-4 gave $
> Option-4 gave ¢
> Option-c gave ©
> Option-r gave ®

So what? If I type Shift-3 here, I get a § (U+00A7). And the ° (U+00B0) 
comes with Shift-^, the µ (U+00B5) with AltGr-M and the € sign with AltGr+E.

> Dead-keys made accented characters easy too:
>
> Option-u o gave ö
> Option-u e gave ë


And if I had a useful OS here at work, I even could use the compose key 
to produce many other non-ASCII characters. To be able to create each 
and every of them is not needed in order to have support for them in a 
language, just the needed ones.

Useful editors use them as well, although you have not all of them on 
your keyboard.


Thomas

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#25860 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 2012/07/23 02:55 PM, Roy Smith wrote:

> Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage
> of the full unicode character set.  Right now, we're working in ASCII
> and creating silly digrams/trigrams like r'' for raw strings (and triple-quotes for multi-line
> strings).  Not to mention <=, >=, ==, !=.  And in languages other than
> python, things like ->, => (arrows for structure membership), and so on.

It'll be pretty.

-- 
Regards
Alex

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#25862 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾

On 07/23/2012 09:06 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
>> Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage
>> of the full unicode character set.  Right now, we're working in ASCII
>> and creating silly digrams/trigrams like r'' for raw strings (and triple-quotes for multi-line
>> strings).  Not to mention <=, >=, ==, !=.  And in languages other than
>> python, things like ->, => (arrows for structure membership), and so on.
> REXX predates Unicode, I think, or at least its widespread adoption,
> but it has a non-ASCII operator:
>
> http://www.rexswain.com/rexx.html#operators
>
> But personally, I've always used backslash. It's nothing to do with
> ASCII and everything to do with having it on the keyboard. Before you
> get a language that uses full Unicode, you'll need to have fairly
> generally available keyboards that have those keys.
>
> ChrisA


Keyboards with 110,000 keys on them; wonderful.  And much larger
characters on the screen, so that all those can be distinguished.  And
of course all fonts have to support all those characters.

Back to 20 character lines.

-- 

DaveA

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#25957 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......�¾

On 07/23/2012 06:22 AM, Dave Angel wrote:
> On 07/23/2012 09:06 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
>>> Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage
>>> of the full unicode character set.  Right now, we're working in ASCII
>>> and creating silly digrams/trigrams like r'' for raw strings (and triple-quotes for multi-line
>>> strings).  Not to mention <=, >=, ==, !=.  And in languages other than
>>> python, things like ->, => (arrows for structure membership), and so on.
>> REXX predates Unicode, I think, or at least its widespread adoption,
>> but it has a non-ASCII operator:
>>
>> http://www.rexswain.com/rexx.html#operators
>>
>> But personally, I've always used backslash. It's nothing to do with
>> ASCII and everything to do with having it on the keyboard. Before you
>> get a language that uses full Unicode, you'll need to have fairly
>> generally available keyboards that have those keys.
>>
>> ChrisA
>
>
> Keyboards with 110,000 keys on them; wonderful.  And much larger
> characters on the screen, so that all those can be distinguished.  And
> of course all fonts have to support all those characters.
>
> Back to 20 character lines.
>

Somewhat different than this discussion, and I'm not familiar with it myself, but I've read 
about the "Space Cadet Keyboard".  It's described (among other places) at:

http://catb.org/jargon/html/S/space-cadet-keyboard.html

      -=- Larry -=-

OT:  This "Jargon File" can be an entertaining read.  I found "The Story of Mel" particularly 
fascinating.

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#25863 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 14:55, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article <500d0632$0$1504$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com>,
>  Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> 
>> Technically, no, it's a SyntaxError, because the Original Poster has used 
>> some sort of "Smart Quotes" characters r’‘ instead of good old fashioned 
>> typewriter-style quotes r'' or r"".
>>
>> If you're going to ask programming questions using an email client that 
>> changes what you type, including smart quotes, special hyphens or other 
>> characters, you're going to have a bad time.
> 
> Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage 
> of the full unicode character set.  Right now, we're working in ASCII 
> and creating silly digrams/trigrams like r'' for raw strings (and triple-quotes for multi-line 
> strings).  Not to mention <=, >=, ==, !=.  And in languages other than 
> python, things like ->, => (arrows for structure membership), and so on.

I disagree. Firstly, Python could already support the different types of
strings even with the ASCII character set. For example, the choice could
have made to treat the apostophe string 'foo' differently from the
double quote string "foo". Then, the backtick could have been used `foo`.

Bash for example uses all three and all three have very different
meanings. Python is different: explicit is better than implicit, and I'd
rather have the "r" the signifies what weird magic is going on instead
of having some weird language rules. It would not be different with some
UTF-8 "rawstring" magic backticks.

Secondly, there's a reason that >=, <= and friends are in use. Every
keyboard has a > key and every keyboard has a = key. I don't know any
that would have >=, <= or != as UTF-8. It is useful to use only a
limited set of characters.

And if I think of PHP's latest fiasco that happened with unicode
characters, it makes me shudder to think you'd want that stuff in
Python. If I remember correctly, it was the Turkish locale that they
stuggled with: Turkey apparently does not have a capital "I", so some
weird PHP magic code broke with the Turkish locale in effect. Having to
keep crap like that in mind is just plain horrible. I'm very happy with
the way Python does it.

Best regards,
Henrik

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#25865 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> wrote:
> And if I think of PHP's latest fiasco that happened with unicode
> characters, it makes me shudder to think you'd want that stuff in
> Python. If I remember correctly, it was the Turkish locale that they
> stuggled with: Turkey apparently does not have a capital "I", so some
> weird PHP magic code broke with the Turkish locale in effect. Having to
> keep crap like that in mind is just plain horrible. I'm very happy with
> the way Python does it.

That said, though, there's good argument in allowing full Unicode in
*identifiers*. If I'm allowed to name something "foo", then a German
should be allowed to name something "foö". And since identifiers are
case sensitive (at least, they are in all good languages...), there
should be no issues with not having particular letters.

ChrisA

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#25869 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 15:35, Chris Angelico wrote:

> That said, though, there's good argument in allowing full Unicode in
> *identifiers*. If I'm allowed to name something "foo", then a German
> should be allowed to name something "foö". And since identifiers are
> case sensitive (at least, they are in all good languages...), there
> should be no issues with not having particular letters.

To you have a "ö" key on your keyboard? I have one. It wouldn't be a
problem for me. Most English layouts probably don't. It would be annoying.

If you allow for UTF-8 identifiers you'll have to be horribly careful
what to include and what to exclude. Is the non-breaking space a valid
character for a identifier? Technically it's a different character than
the normal space, so why shouldn't it be? What an awesome idea!

What about × vs x? Or Ì vs Í vs Î vs Ï vs Ĩ vs Ī vs ī vs Ĭ vs ĭ vs Į vs
į vs I vs İ? Do you think if you need to maintain such code you'll
immediately know the difference between the 13 (!) different "I"s I just
happened to pull out randomly you need to chose and how to get it? What
about Ȝ vs ȝ? Or Ȣ vs ȣ? Or ȸ vs ȹ? Or d vs Ԁ vs ԁ vs ԃ vs Ԃ? Or ց vs g?
Or ս vs u?

I've not even mentioned the different punctuation marks and already it's
hell of a mess, although I just happened to look into a few pages.
Having UTF-8 in identifiers is a horrible idea. It makes perfect sense
to support it within strings (as Python3 does), but I would hate for
Python to include them into identifiers. Then again, I'm pretty sure
this is not planned anytime soon.

Best regards,
Henrik

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#25870 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 15:52, Henrik Faber wrote:

> but I would hate for
> Python to include them into identifiers. Then again, I'm pretty sure
> this is not planned anytime soon.

Dear Lord.

Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec  8 2011, 15:26:58)
[GCC 4.5.2] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> fööbär = 3
>>> fööbär
3

I didn't know this. How awful.

Regards,
Johannes

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#25871 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 15:55, Henrik Faber wrote:

> Dear Lord.
> 
> Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec  8 2011, 15:26:58)
> [GCC 4.5.2] on linux2
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>> fööbär = 3
>>>> fööbär
> 3
> 
> I didn't know this. How awful.

Apparently, not all characters are fine with Python. Why can I not have
domino tiles are identifier characters?

>>> 🀻 = 9
  File "<stdin>", line 1
    🀻 = 9
     ^
SyntaxError: invalid character in identifier

I think there needs to be a PEP for that.

Regads,
Henrik

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#25873 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> writes:

> On 23.07.2012 15:55, Henrik Faber wrote:
>
>> Dear Lord.
>> 
>> Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec  8 2011, 15:26:58)
>> [GCC 4.5.2] on linux2
>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>>> fööbär = 3
>>>>> fööbär
>> 3
>> 
>> I didn't know this. How awful.
>
> Apparently, not all characters are fine with Python. Why can I not have
> domino tiles are identifier characters?

The answer is in the language reference:

http://docs.python.org/py3k/reference/lexical_analysis.html#identifiers

-- Alain.

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#25879 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23/07/2012 14:59, Henrik Faber wrote:
> On 23.07.2012 15:55, Henrik Faber wrote:
>
>> Dear Lord.
>>
>> Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Dec  8 2011, 15:26:58)
>> [GCC 4.5.2] on linux2
>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>>> fööbär = 3
>>>>> fööbär
>> 3
>>
>> I didn't know this. How awful.
>
> Apparently, not all characters are fine with Python. Why can I not have
> domino tiles are identifier characters?
>
>>>> 🀻 = 9
>    File "<stdin>", line 1
>      🀻 = 9
>       ^
> SyntaxError: invalid character in identifier
>
> I think there needs to be a PEP for that.

well get writing then as there's nothing to stop you.

>
> Regads,
> Henrik
>


-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence.

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#25881 — Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾

On 23.07.2012 16:43, Mark Lawrence wrote:

>> Apparently, not all characters are fine with Python. Why can I not have
>> domino tiles are identifier characters?
>>
>>>>> 🀻 = 9
>>    File "<stdin>", line 1
>>      🀻 = 9
>>       ^
>> SyntaxError: invalid character in identifier
>>
>> I think there needs to be a PEP for that.
> 
> well get writing then as there's nothing to stop you.

I might wait until April 1st next year with that ;-)

Best regards,
Henrik

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