Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.lang.python > #58864 > unrolled thread

datetime question

Back to article view | Back to comp.lang.python

Contents

  datetime question Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-08 23:11 +0200
    Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-08 21:29 +0000
      Re: datetime question Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-09 00:01 +0200
        Re: datetime question Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-08 17:06 -0500
          Re: datetime question rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-11-11 14:49 -0800
            Re: datetime question Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-11 18:18 -0500
        Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-08 22:18 +0000
        Re: datetime question Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-11-08 22:29 +0000
          Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-09 09:39 +1100
            Re: datetime question Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-09 10:30 -0500
          Re: datetime question Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-11-09 10:39 -0500
          Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-10 09:25 +1100
        Re: datetime question Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-08 22:49 +0000
          Re: datetime question Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-09 01:02 +0200
            Re: datetime question Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-11-08 23:23 +0000
            Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-09 10:30 +1100
            Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-09 00:12 +0000
            Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-09 12:45 +0000
              Re: datetime question Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-09 15:43 +0200
                Re: datetime question unknown <unknown@unknown.com> - 2013-11-10 12:52 +0000
            Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-09 23:52 +1100
    Re: datetime question Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-11-09 19:55 -0500
    Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-10 19:47 +1100
    Re: datetime question Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-11-10 04:13 -0500
    Re: datetime question Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-11 11:57 +0200
      Re: datetime question Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-11 08:41 -0500
        Re: datetime question Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-11 09:14 -0500
          Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 01:25 +1100
          Re: datetime question Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-11 09:36 -0500
          Re: datetime question Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-11 20:59 -0500
          Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 13:02 +1100
          Re: datetime question Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-11 21:02 -0500
          Re: datetime question Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-12 19:30 -0500
          Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 11:40 +1100
      Re: datetime question Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-11 19:19 +0000
        Re: datetime question Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2013-11-11 11:39 -0800
          Re: datetime question Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-11-11 20:45 +0000
          Re: datetime question mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2013-11-11 23:21 +0000
            Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-11 23:48 +0000
              Re: datetime question Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-11-12 04:49 +0000
                Re: datetime question alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 17:25 +1000
                  Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 18:35 +1100
                  Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-12 09:20 +0000
                Re: datetime question Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-12 09:18 -0500
    Re: datetime question Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 12:15 +0200
      Re: datetime question Andy Lawton <andy@andylawton.eu> - 2013-11-12 12:47 +0000
        Re: datetime question Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 15:32 +0200
          Re: datetime question Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 09:03 -0500
            Re: datetime question Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 16:12 +0200
              Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 01:57 +1100
                Re: datetime question Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 17:24 +0200
                  Re: datetime question Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-11-12 09:54 -0600
                    Re: datetime question Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 17:57 +0200
                      Re: datetime question Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-11-12 10:12 -0600
                      Re: datetime question William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2013-11-12 11:14 -0500
                      Re: datetime question Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-12 16:30 +0000
                      Re: datetime question MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-11-12 19:09 +0000
                      Re: datetime question Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 14:14 -0500
                      Re: datetime question Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 19:24 +0000
                        Re: datetime question Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-12 19:38 -0500
                      Re: datetime question Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 09:42 +1100
                      Re: datetime question Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-12 19:37 -0500
                      Re: datetime question MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-11-13 01:08 +0000
                    Re: datetime question Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-11-12 16:11 +0000
                      Re: datetime question Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-12 19:43 -0500
        Re: datetime question Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-12 19:20 +0000

Page 2 of 4 — ← Prev page 1 [2] 3 4  Next page →

#58931

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Why is Web Security for Dummies missing?

Because a Dummy can host a web (all you have to do is invite a spider
into your house and let it do the work), but he won't be able to make
it secure.

Or, more succinctly: Because it isn't.

ChrisA

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#58987

On Saturday 09 November 2013 19:52:52 Chris Angelico did opine:

> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote:
> > Ya know, folks like Nick would have me signing off.  Fortunately there
> > are kill files. But the backscatter he creates I am still forced to
> > read, or more usually skip.
> > 
> > Then one of you frustrated standup comics comes along, and gives me a
> > VBG, and its suddenly all worth it.  Thank You Chris.
> :
> :) Don't just thank me, Grant and Roy were key to it too - and the
> 
> whole "there's no shortage of newlines" thing started with Steven
> D'Aprano (I think), and it's a ripe field for harvest :)

And likely not fully gleaned yet. :)  To all of you, thats some of the 
better creative writing I've read in my 79 years.  ;-)
 
> But hey. If you're going to have to read backscatter, may as well make
> it funny...

Precisely.
 
> ChrisA


Cheers, Gene
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

A Difficulty for Every Solution.
		-- Motto of the Federal Civil Service
A pen in the hand of this president is far more
dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of
         law-abiding citizens.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#58991

On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote:
> On Saturday 09 November 2013 19:52:52 Chris Angelico did opine:
>> :) Don't just thank me, Grant and Roy were key to it too - and the
>> whole "there's no shortage of newlines" thing started with Steven
>> D'Aprano (I think), and it's a ripe field for harvest :)
>
> And likely not fully gleaned yet. :)  To all of you, thats some of the
> better creative writing I've read in my 79 years.  ;-)

Are you going to have a newyear after next year and start over with
Year 1 again?

ChrisA

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#58996

On Sunday 10 November 2013 04:06:06 Chris Angelico did opine:

> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday 09 November 2013 19:52:52 Chris Angelico did opine:
> >> :) Don't just thank me, Grant and Roy were key to it too - and the
> >> 
> >> whole "there's no shortage of newlines" thing started with Steven
> >> D'Aprano (I think), and it's a ripe field for harvest :)
> > 
> > And likely not fully gleaned yet. :)  To all of you, thats some of the
> > better creative writing I've read in my 79 years.  ;-)
> 
> Are you going to have a newyear after next year and start over with
> Year 1 again?
> 
Nah.  I tried to put it off as long as I could, but times arrow, dammit, 
only points forward.  I might as well get used to it.  From that famous 
line about death and taxes, taxes will of course outlive me. Being a DM-II, 
I of course haven't a shred of warranty left.  Just up to pee and check on 
that falling satellite, I could fall over walking the 20 feet back to bed, 
but I'm going to do it anyway... ;-)

> ChrisA


Cheers, Gene
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

$100 invested at 7% interest for 100 years will become $100,000, at
which time it will be worth absolutely nothing.
		-- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love"
A pen in the hand of this president is far more
dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of
         law-abiding citizens.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59059

Στις 8/11/2013 11:11 μμ, ο/η Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος έγραψε:
> Is there someway to write the following line even better with the
> ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to
> alter the line manually when time changes?
>
> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format
>
> Thanks.


Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust 
itself if DST happens?

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59073

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος
<nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:
> Στις 8/11/2013 11:11 μμ, ο/η Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος έγραψε:
>
>> Is there someway to write the following line even better with the
>> ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to
>> alter the line manually when time changes?
>>
>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format
>>
>> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust itself

Three days ago Mark Lawrence pointed you to a stack overflow answer to
your question.  While it didn't suit your demand for a single line
answer, it could easily be made into a function which returned the
string format that you requested.  You've been around long enough to
try to work that out for yourself.  If you yourself had returned with
a one liner to perform what Mark showed you, I can imagine a lot of
people would be impressed at your dedication!

I think you are oversimplifying the problem.  I recall that you server
is in Germany, and you are in Greece.  If these are two different time
zones, I am guessing that the German time will be given.  Also, any
linux user who runs package updates regularly (thinking Ubuntu)
realizes that some file that starts with tz gets changed quite often.
This is because time zones are set by governments, and the date of
change from standard to daylight time can be differently, depending
upon the location and the governing body.

I pose this question to you:

Why not display UTC?  If it is so important to you to display local
time, why do you think that your host's local time is something that
is useful for a visitor?  Daylight savings time is more complicated
that you have suggested
> if DST happens?

If you insist upon displaying the local time of your server, you
should not be hardcoding in a 2 hour difference.  Let the python
library figure out the delta by giving the country code
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list



-- 
Joel Goldstick
http://joelgoldstick.com

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59077

In article <mailman.2377.1384177268.18130.python-list@python.org>,
 Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why not display UTC?  If it is so important to you to display local
> time, why do you think that your host's local time is something that
> is useful for a visitor?

In general, it makes sense to run servers (and log everything) in UTC, 
and display local time to your users.  The idea is to do the conversion 
(in both directions) as close to the user as possible (which, for a web 
application, means a little piece of javascript right in the browser).

It seems like extra work, but, trust me, it will preserve your sanity 
eventually.

We've got a data supplier who (for reasons I cannot fathom), runs their 
network in local time.  Every time we talk to them about problems, it's 
a mess just trying to figure out what time we're talking about.  We say, 
"we saw a latency spike at 2243 UTC, what caused that?", and then we 
play 20-questions trying to figure out if that's 1443 PDT, or 1543 PST, 
or who knows what.  Further complicated by them occasionally asking us 
off-the-wall questions like, "Is that UTC daylight savings time?"

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59078

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:14 AM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
> We've got a data supplier who (for reasons I cannot fathom), runs their
> network in local time.  Every time we talk to them about problems, it's
> a mess just trying to figure out what time we're talking about.  We say,
> "we saw a latency spike at 2243 UTC, what caused that?", and then we
> play 20-questions trying to figure out if that's 1443 PDT, or 1543 PST,
> or who knows what.  Further complicated by them occasionally asking us
> off-the-wall questions like, "Is that UTC daylight savings time?"

UGH. Yes. I get the same thing from some of the US players in my
Dungeons & Dragons campaign. To avoid the hassles of international
times, everything's scheduled in UTC; the Aussies, the Europeans, and
_some of_ the Americans an handle it, but there are a few who keep
asking me crazy questions about DST and UTC. I'm like... no, there is
no daylight time! Just look at the current UTC time and see how that
compares! There's even a command in-game that shows current UTC time.

Fortunately, those people are in the minority. Most of the players can
handle the time conversions.

ChrisA

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59079

So this is a physics joke.  The engineers and physicists at the
conference went to dinner.  They ordered wine with dinner.  The wait
person asked: "Would you like the small liter, or the large liter?"



-- 
Joel Goldstick
http://joelgoldstick.com

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59137

On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 01:25:39 +1100, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
declaimed the following:

>
>UGH. Yes. I get the same thing from some of the US players in my
>Dungeons & Dragons campaign. To avoid the hassles of international
>times, everything's scheduled in UTC; the Aussies, the Europeans, and
>_some of_ the Americans an handle it, but there are a few who keep
>asking me crazy questions about DST and UTC. I'm like... no, there is
>no daylight time! Just look at the current UTC time and see how that
>compares! There's even a command in-game that shows current UTC time.
>
>Fortunately, those people are in the minority. Most of the players can
>handle the time conversions.
>

	Let's add astronomical Julian Dates... Where the "day" changes at
"noon" (avoids the hassle of an observation starting at 2300 <day x> and
ending at 0100 <day y) -- both times would still be in <day x>

	Of course, I'm spoiled... My /watch/ has a dial for UTC, along with one
for 24-hour indication (one hand, range 1 to 24)
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59139

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>         Of course, I'm spoiled... My /watch/ has a dial for UTC, along with one
> for 24-hour indication (one hand, range 1 to 24)

Heh. Mine doesn't, so I bought myself a second watch and set it to
UTC. So my left hand has local time (changes at DST breaks, changes
when I travel internationally), and my right hand has UTC (never
changes).

ChrisA

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59141

On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 09:36:09 -0500, Joel Goldstick
<joel.goldstick@gmail.com> declaimed the following:

>So this is a physics joke.  The engineers and physicists at the
>conference went to dinner.  They ordered wine with dinner.  The wait
>person asked: "Would you like the small liter, or the large liter?"

	Pardon? Makes no sense to me...

	A question about small pint or large pint, OTOH...
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59264

On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:02:58 +1100, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
declaimed the following:

>On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
><wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>         Of course, I'm spoiled... My /watch/ has a dial for UTC, along with one
>> for 24-hour indication (one hand, range 1 to 24)
>
>Heh. Mine doesn't, so I bought myself a second watch and set it to
>UTC. So my left hand has local time (changes at DST breaks, changes
>when I travel internationally), and my right hand has UTC (never
>changes).
>


http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-JY0000-53E-Skyhawk-Eco-Drive-Watch/dp/B000ZPMYQI

	Only watch I've ever heard of having a recall... The radio synch logic
fell apart a few years back, and lost a day. As a result mine now has a
mark from a small center punch on the back to identify it as having had its
firmware redone.

	I recall the sales lady's blunder... After persuading me on this model
(it was replacing an earlier Citizen Navi-Hawk as I recall) she tried to
sell me a battery replacement service plan -- for a watch that charges via
solar panel!
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59267

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:02:58 +1100, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
> declaimed the following:
>
>>On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
>><wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>         Of course, I'm spoiled... My /watch/ has a dial for UTC, along with one
>>> for 24-hour indication (one hand, range 1 to 24)
>>
>>Heh. Mine doesn't, so I bought myself a second watch and set it to
>>UTC. So my left hand has local time (changes at DST breaks, changes
>>when I travel internationally), and my right hand has UTC (never
>>changes).
>>
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-JY0000-53E-Skyhawk-Eco-Drive-Watch/dp/B000ZPMYQI
>
>         Only watch I've ever heard of having a recall... The radio synch logic
> fell apart a few years back, and lost a day. As a result mine now has a
> mark from a small center punch on the back to identify it as having had its
> firmware redone.
>
>         I recall the sales lady's blunder... After persuading me on this model
> (it was replacing an earlier Citizen Navi-Hawk as I recall) she tried to
> sell me a battery replacement service plan -- for a watch that charges via
> solar panel!

My UTC watch is an Eco-Drive too, but without radio sync, and much
simpler all round than yours. And roughly half the price, and that
counting the Amazon price not the list price. I don't think I could
justify to myself spending $650 on a second watch!!

If only more people would start "thinking UTC", all sorts of
synchronization problems would vanish.

ChrisA

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59093

On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:57:36 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:

>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format

> Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust
> itself if DST happens?

Yes, but the scarcity of universal whitespace is preventing me from 
posting it.

-- 
Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon@gmail.com

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59094

On 11/11/2013 11:19 AM, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:57:36 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>
>>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
>>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format
>
>> Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust
>> itself if DST happens?
>
> Yes, but the scarcity of universal whitespace is preventing me from
> posting it.

Boy, are you in luck!  I just happen to have a whole heap of marked down ascii white-space at bargain basement prices!

--
~Ethan~

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59098

On 2013-11-11, Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> wrote:
> On 11/11/2013 11:19 AM, Denis McMahon wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:57:36 +0200, ?????????? ?????????????????????? wrote:
>>
>>>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
>>>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format
>>
>>> Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust
>>> itself if DST happens?
>>
>> Yes, but the scarcity of universal whitespace is preventing me from
>> posting it.
>
> Boy, are you in luck!  I just happen to have a whole heap of marked
> down ascii white-space at bargain basement prices!

Careful, a lot of the cheap imported whitespace was made with toxic
lead carbonate instead of the non-toxic titatium oxide that should be
used...

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! I'd like MY data-base
                                  at               JULIENNED and stir-fried!
                              gmail.com            

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59118

On 11/11/2013 19:39, Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 11/11/2013 11:19 AM, Denis McMahon wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:57:36 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>
>>>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
>>>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format
>>
>>> Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust
>>> itself if DST happens?
>>
>> Yes, but the scarcity of universal whitespace is preventing me from
>> posting it.
>
> Boy, are you in luck!  I just happen to have a whole heap of marked down
> ascii white-space at bargain basement prices!
>

Is that metric or imperial whitespace?

You need metric whitespace for programs written in Europe.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59119

On 11/11/2013 23:21, mm0fmf wrote:
> On 11/11/2013 19:39, Ethan Furman wrote:
>> On 11/11/2013 11:19 AM, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:57:36 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
>>>
>>>>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
>>>>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format
>>>
>>>> Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust
>>>> itself if DST happens?
>>>
>>> Yes, but the scarcity of universal whitespace is preventing me from
>>> posting it.
>>
>> Boy, are you in luck!  I just happen to have a whole heap of marked down
>> ascii white-space at bargain basement prices!
>>
>
> Is that metric or imperial whitespace?
>
> You need metric whitespace for programs written in Europe.
>

Except for the UK, our multi-national approach means that both imperial 
and metric whitespace are acceptable.


-- 
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#59149

On 2013-11-11, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 11/11/2013 23:21, mm0fmf wrote:
>> On 11/11/2013 19:39, Ethan Furman wrote:
>>> On 11/11/2013 11:19 AM, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:57:36 +0200, ?????????? ?????????????????????? wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
>>>>>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format
>>>>
>>>>> Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust
>>>>> itself if DST happens?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but the scarcity of universal whitespace is preventing me from
>>>> posting it.
>>>
>>> Boy, are you in luck!  I just happen to have a whole heap of marked down
>>> ascii white-space at bargain basement prices!
>>
>> Is that metric or imperial whitespace?
>>
>> You need metric whitespace for programs written in Europe.
>
> Except for the UK, our multi-national approach means that both imperial 
> and metric whitespace are acceptable.

Don't forget that there are also some differences between American and
Imperial whitespace.  Since it's ASCII whitespace, you should probably
assume American...

-- 
Grant

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

Page 2 of 4 — ← Prev page 1 [2] 3 4  Next page →

Back to top | Article view | comp.lang.python

csiph-web