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python operational semantics paper

Started byPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
First post2013-11-09 10:35 -0800
Last post2013-11-11 13:37 +1300
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  python operational semantics paper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-09 10:35 -0800
    Re: python operational semantics paper Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-11-10 05:42 -0500
    Re: python operational semantics paper Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2013-11-11 13:37 +1300

#58959 — python operational semantics paper

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2013-11-09 10:35 -0800
Subjectpython operational semantics paper
Message-ID<7x61s1o22j.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com>
This looks kind of interesting.

http://cs.brown.edu/~sk/Publications/Papers/Published/pmmwplck-python-full-monty/

Abstract

We present a small-step operational semantics for the Python programming
language. We present both a core language for Python, suitable for tools
and proofs, and a translation process for converting Python source to
this core. We have tested the composition of translation and evaluation
of the core for conformance with the primary Python implementa- tion,
thereby giving confidence in the fidelity of the seman- tics. We briefly
report on the engineering of these compo- nents. Finally, we examine
subtle aspects of the language, identifying scope as a pervasive concern
that even impacts features that might be considered orthogonal.

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FromTerry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Date2013-11-10 05:42 -0500
Message-ID<mailman.2329.1384080179.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#58959
On 11/9/2013 1:35 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> This looks kind of interesting.
>
> http://cs.brown.edu/~sk/Publications/Papers/Published/pmmwplck-python-full-monty/
>
> Abstract
>
> We present a small-step operational semantics for the Python programming
> language. We present both a core language for Python, suitable for tools
> and proofs, and a translation process for converting Python source to
> this core. We have tested the composition of translation and evaluation
> of the core for conformance with the primary Python implementa- tion,
> thereby giving confidence in the fidelity of the seman- tics. We briefly
> report on the engineering of these compo- nents. Finally, we examine
> subtle aspects of the language, identifying scope as a pervasive concern
> that even impacts features that might be considered orthogonal.

Thanks for posting this. I found it very interesting but will need more 
time to digest it. I plan to open a separate thread based on one item in 
the paper.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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FromGregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz>
Date2013-11-11 13:37 +1300
Message-ID<bean60Fpi8mU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#58959
Paul Rubin wrote:
> 
> http://cs.brown.edu/~sk/Publications/Papers/Published/pmmwplck-python-full-monty/
> 
> Abstract
> 
> We present a small-step operational semantics for the Python programming
> language.

I noticed one thing they seem to have missed. They
assume that

    a + b

is equivalent to

    a.__add__(b)

when, as many of us know, it's considerably more
complicated than that.

-- 
Greg

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