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Future standard GUI library

Started byBeinan Li <li.beinan@gmail.com>
First post2013-05-18 10:03 -0400
Last post2013-05-28 16:19 -0700
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  Future standard GUI library Beinan Li <li.beinan@gmail.com> - 2013-05-18 10:03 -0400
    Re: Future standard GUI library Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2013-05-18 11:32 -0400
    Re: Future standard GUI library Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-05-18 21:25 +0000
    Re: Future standard GUI library llanitedave <llanitedave@veawb.coop> - 2013-05-18 20:01 -0700
      Re: Future standard GUI library Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2013-05-19 08:57 -0400
    Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-22 15:42 +0200
      Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-23 00:24 +1000
        Re: Future standard GUI library llanitedave <llanitedave@veawb.coop> - 2013-05-22 19:31 -0700
          Re: Future standard GUI library Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> - 2013-05-23 07:43 +0100
          Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-23 16:48 +1000
          RE: Future standard GUI library Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-23 09:58 +0300
          Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-23 17:03 +1000
          RE: Future standard GUI library Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> - 2013-05-23 08:08 +0100
        Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-23 17:41 +0200
          Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 01:51 +1000
            Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-26 19:43 +0200
              Re: Future standard GUI library Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-26 14:16 -0400
                Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-27 17:31 +0200
                  Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 11:13 -0600
                  Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 08:21 +1000
                    Re: Future standard GUI library Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-27 19:10 -0400
                      Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 17:11 +1000
                        Re: Future standard GUI library 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 02:40 -0700
                    Re: Future standard GUI library Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 01:01 +0000
              RE: Future standard GUI library Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-26 21:32 +0300
                Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-28 19:26 +0200
                  Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 12:16 -0600
                  RE: Future standard GUI library Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-29 00:17 +0300
                  Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-29 17:20 +1000
              Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 04:56 +1000
              Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 13:41 -0600
                Re: Future standard GUI library Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-26 15:45 -0400
                  Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 15:13 -0600
                  Re: Future standard GUI library Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-28 15:40 +0000
                Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-27 17:22 +0200
                  Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 11:16 -0600
                    Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-30 18:40 +0200
                      Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-31 02:53 +1000
                        Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 06:46 +1000
                        Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-06-01 20:18 +0200
                          Re: Future standard GUI library Terry Jan Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-06-01 17:52 -0400
              Re: Future standard GUI library Ian Foote <ian@feete.org> - 2013-05-26 22:02 +0100
              Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 08:09 +1000
          Re: Future standard GUI library Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-23 20:37 +0000
            Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-28 19:28 +0200
              Re: Future standard GUI library Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-28 18:25 +0000
                Re: Future standard GUI library 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 16:19 -0700

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#46673

FromTerry Jan Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Date2013-06-01 17:52 -0400
Message-ID<mailman.2530.1370123535.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#46670
On 6/1/2013 4:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> wrote:

>> And by "screenworkers" I didn't refer to programmers. Those people
>> rarely have to use the stuff that they implement.
>
> Of course not, programmers never use software they've themselves
> written. Never. Not in a million... oh wait, what's this I have? Hmm,
> gcc used to compile gcc, RosMud being used by Rosuav, Neil Hodgson
> using SciTE... naw, they're all statistical anomalies, carry on!

And I use Idle to improve Idle.

I use the HgWorkbench front-end to hg because point and click is often 
*faster* for me than remember (or look up command and arg) and type 
(without error, or correction after error).

Now back to ignoring the troll.

Terry

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#46120

FromIan Foote <ian@feete.org>
Date2013-05-26 22:02 +0100
Message-ID<mailman.2200.1369602142.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#46087
On 26/05/13 20:41, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 05/26/2013 11:43 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
<snip>
>
> Maybe it would have been faster to develop, but ultimately less useful
> and require more development time in the long run.  suppose I now want
> the app natively on my phone (because that's all the rage).  It's an
> iPhone.  Oh.  Apple doesn't support Python.  Okay, rewrite the works,
> including business logic, in Objective C.  Now I want it on my android
> phone.  Oops rewrite the stack again in Java.
>
Kivy (http://kivy.org) is a python library that can be used to write 
python apps for Linux, Windows, MaxOSX, Android and IOS.

Regards,
Ian F

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#46132

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2013-05-27 08:09 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.2208.1369606189.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#46087
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> wrote:
> Chuckle.  Simple CRUD, eh.  Almost all apps involve database CRUD
> interactions.  And often in highly complex ways using business logic.

Right. Sturgeon's Law of Applications.

ChrisA

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#45842

FromGrant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2013-05-23 20:37 +0000
Message-ID<knlule$5cg$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#45814
On 2013-05-23, Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> wrote:
>> But there's another option that is available to every platform and
>> (practially) every high level language: the web browser. Make your app
>> serve HTTP and do up your UI in HTML5/CSS3 - your facilities are
>> pretty extensive. Plus you get networking support for free! Obviously
>> this option isn't for everyone, but don't discount it out of hand.
>
> Both the concept and actually implemented examples of so-called "web
> applications" prove that they are just plain garbage and hopelessly
> unusable for anything remotely resembling actual screenwork.

What is "screenwork"?

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! Am I elected yet?
                                  at               
                              gmail.com

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#46315

FromWolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net>
Date2013-05-28 19:28 +0200
Message-ID<20130528192840.5913f7b6181464616061c015@gmx.net>
In reply to#45842
> What is "screenwork"?

Actually productive work of significant intensity at a computer screen.

As opposed to leisurely "clicking around" like managers, administrators
or home users (gaming, "webbing",...) do.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

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#46322

FromGrant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2013-05-28 18:25 +0000
Message-ID<ko2sq4$l93$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#46315
On 2013-05-28, Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> wrote:

> Actually productive work of significant intensity at a computer screen.

Oh. You mean emacs.

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! Will it improve my
                                  at               CASH FLOW?
                              gmail.com

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#46349

From88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com>
Date2013-05-28 16:19 -0700
Message-ID<5d7a9b77-963f-4964-a9f0-83295dc1b30e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#46322
Grant Edwards於 2013年5月29日星期三UTC+8上午2時25分08秒寫道：
> On 2013-05-28, Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Actually productive work of significant intensity at a computer screen.
> 
> 
> 
> Oh. You mean emacs.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! Will it improve my
> 
>                                   at               CASH FLOW?
> 
>                               gmail.com

Check http://www.pyamf.org/index.html for Python +flash
in browser applications. Annyway the virtual server part 
can be obtained from the Adobe system in the cloudy services 
or whatever.

As long as it is scalable  in fees to provide services
to web users  in PCs or mobile phones,
then it might be very profitable than 10 to 15 years ago.

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