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| Started by | DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2013-05-24 20:19 -0700 |
| Last post | 2013-05-25 16:56 +0200 |
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Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 20:19 -0700
Re: Python Magazine Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-24 23:35 -0400
Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 20:38 -0700
Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-25 13:48 +1000
Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 21:11 -0700
Re: Python Magazine zoom <zoom@yahoo.com> - 2013-05-25 08:38 +0200
Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-25 16:41 +1000
Re: Python Magazine Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-05-25 14:29 +0000
Re: Python Magazine Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-25 11:30 -0400
Re: Python Magazine John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-05-25 18:28 -0700
Re: Python Magazine Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-25 21:54 -0400
Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 11:58 +1000
Re: Python Magazine Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-05-26 04:03 +0000
Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 14:37 +1000
Re: Python Magazine John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-05-25 20:04 -0700
Re: Python Magazine Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-25 23:24 -0400
Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 13:45 +1000
RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-26 07:01 +0300
Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 14:31 +1000
RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-26 08:00 +0300
Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 15:17 +1000
Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-05-31 04:11 -0700
RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-01 11:15 +0300
Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 00:37 -0700
RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-05 15:20 +0300
Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 09:17 -0700
Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 03:52 +1000
Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 22:01 -0700
Re: Python Magazine Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-05-26 04:20 +0100
Re: Python Magazine Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-05-26 03:50 +0000
Re: Python Magazine 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2013-06-01 08:08 -0700
Re: Python Magazine Mark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 20:38 -0700
Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 20:41 -0700
RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-25 06:43 +0300
Re: Python Magazine DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 21:10 -0700
RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-25 07:22 +0300
Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-25 14:25 +1000
Re: Python Magazine Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-25 11:24 -0400
Re: Python Magazine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 01:30 +1000
RE: Python Magazine Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-25 20:28 +0300
Re: Python Magazine Michael Poeltl <michael.poeltl@univie.ac.at> - 2013-05-25 07:29 +0200
Re: Python Magazine Daniel <danielrr2@gmail.com> - 2013-05-25 16:56 +0200
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-05-26 15:17 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2167.1369545433.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #46029 |
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> wrote: > ---------------------------------------- >> Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 14:31:57 +1000 >> Subject: Re: Python Magazine >> From: rosuav@gmail.com >> To: python-list@python.org > [...] >> I expect that IP blocks will be upgraded to /64 block blocks, if that >> starts being a problem. But it often won't, and specific IP address >> blocks will still be the norm. >> >> ChrisA > > > Blocking a whole network (/65) is totally undesirable and may even become illegal. Blocking a /64 is exactly the same as blocking a /32 with NAT behind it. And how could it be illegal? I provide service to those I choose to provide to. > Currently it may not only happen at the target of the DDoS attack, but be spread all over the internet where block lists are enforced. > > I don't expect that to happen and if it happens I'm surely in favor of protection against this type of 'solution' because it will block not only malicious clients but potentially many other legitimate clients. Banning a wide netblock is of course going to lock out legit clients. But IP rotation means that can happen anyway. You block a single IPv4 address that right now represents an abusive user; that user disconnects and reconnects, gets a new IP, and someone else gets the other one. Can happen all too easily. That's why IP-banning is at best a temporary solution anyway. ChrisA
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| From | DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-05-31 04:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <29be50bf-b77c-4450-9d7c-026bfaf7fe89@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #46050 |
Hello all,
Was busy with work. Finally finished the job of registering the domain name.
Will be live soon. The url is http://pythonmagazine.org. Hope we will be live soon.
Regards,
DRJ.
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| From | Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-01 11:15 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2523.1370074574.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #46594 |
---------------------------------------- > Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 04:11:06 -0700 > Subject: Re: Python Magazine > From: rama29065@gmail.com > To: python-list@python.org > > Hello all, > Was busy with work. Finally finished the job of registering the domain name. > Will be live soon. The url is http://pythonmagazine.org. Hope we will be live soon. > Regards, > DRJ. > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Nice! Wish you luck! Do you have sponsors? Advertisers? What's the plan?
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| From | DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 00:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <93c0dff4-6d63-4e7d-981f-e3bff9dddae9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #46655 |
On Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:45:06 PM UTC+5:30, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
> Nice! Wish you luck!
>
> Do you have sponsors? Advertisers? What's the plan?
Thanks Carlos,
Right now we haven't engaged with sponsors or advertisers. Thinking whether to have a community magazine or go with the same way as previous ones some sort of commercialization.
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| From | Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 15:20 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2727.1370434893.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #47030 |
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> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 00:37:53 -0700 > Subject: Re: Python Magazine > From: rama29065@gmail.com [...] > > Do you have sponsors? Advertisers? What's the plan? > Thanks Carlos, > Right now we haven't engaged with sponsors or advertisers. Thinking whether to have a community magazine or go with the same way as previous ones some sort of commercialization. Do you have other magazines? Which ones? How are you going to supply contents?
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| From | DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 09:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <be7b433a-9c3c-44ea-8fcf-ac39f3e40af2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #47075 |
> Do you have other magazines? Which ones? How are you going to supply contents? We don't have other magazines. I was referring to old python magazines which terminated now. Portable documents(PDF , EPUB or MOBI) for now is being planned. Regards, DRJ.
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-06 03:52 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2751.1370454743.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #47103 |
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:17 AM, DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Do you have other magazines? Which ones? How are you going to supply contents? > > We don't have other magazines. I was referring to old python magazines which terminated now. Portable documents(PDF , EPUB or MOBI) for now is being planned. The real problem is the ongoing supply of content. If you can publish on a regular schedule (weekly?) with interesting content, you'll have a highly successful magazine... but if you have to provide all that content yourself, you'll burn out. Try to line up a couple of backup writers or columnists to help out - and no, I'm not offering, I have way too much happening already :) Though the number of words I've typed into python-list today would probably be enough for a month's worth of newsletters... Let's have more of these threads that are actually Python-related! ChrisA
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| From | DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 22:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <95f13512-877b-4171-b255-d1ff5c02b35a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #47123 |
> The real problem is the ongoing supply of content. If you can publish
>
> on a regular schedule (weekly?) with interesting content, you'll have
>
> a highly successful magazine... but if you have to provide all that
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> content yourself, you'll burn out. Try to line up a couple of backup
>
> writers or columnists to help out - and no, I'm not offering, I have
>
> way too much happening already :) Though the number of words I've
>
> typed into python-list today would probably be enough for a month's
>
> worth of newsletters...
>
>
>
> Let's have more of these threads that are actually Python-related!
>
>
>
> ChrisA
Dear ChrisA,
Currently we are a team of three. We are planning to have contect categorized into topics like
☺ Some application made of python(command line program or a GUI program) that we make using a python module(planning to cover as many modules as possible) ie; of included batteries of python.
☺ Python in Security ie; Some scripts that we can write in python like a dictionary attack tool
☺ One for covering Tkinter.
☺ One small Game using python.
☺ Python Facts,Python Quotes, Python PersonalitY (a python personnel bio or an interview), Python video(about a python video from Python Conferences)
☺ Python articles Guest as well as our own.
☺ Python Tutorials.
☺ Python Place( A place where python is being used for production).
☺ If we are not overloading magazine we would also cover about Python tools like say Ninja-IDE(an IDE for Python extensively written in Python).
After a few days we are planning to cover
☺ Python in cloud.(Open Stack)
☺ Network Programming.(probably Twisted framework)
☺ Database programming with SQLite.
☺ Python Puzzles(some programming Questions).
☺ Python Webframework probably Django.
We welcome further suggestions from the community.
Regards,
DRJ and Team.
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-05-26 04:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2156.1369538706.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #46027 |
On 26/05/2013 02:58, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote: >> In article <7cd17be8-d455-4db8-b8d0-ccc757db5cff@googlegroups.com>, >> John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> On Saturday, May 25, 2013 8:30:19 AM UTC-7, Roy Smith wrote: >>>> From my phone, I >>>> can call any other phone anywhere in the world. But I can't talk >>>> directly to the file server in my neighbor's house across the street? >>> >>> Hmmm... I've been an advocate of IPv6, but... now you've got me thinking of >>> what Iran's new cadre of hackers might do with it! :^) >> >> You (like many people) are confusing universal addressability with >> universal connectivity. The converse of that is people confusing NAT >> with security. >> >> Of course not every IPv6 endpoint will be able to talk to every other >> IPv6 endpoint, even if the both have globally unique addresses. But, >> the access controls will be implemented in firewalls with appropriately >> coded security policies. Not as an accident of being behind a NAT box. > > To be more specific: The control of who can talk to whom is in the > hands of the admins of the two endpoints and the nodes in between, > rather than being arbitrarily in the hands of the technology. So I > would be able to talk to the file server across the street, but only > IF its admin lets me. > > ChrisA > By such means as leaving the top level admin password set to the factory default? :) -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2013-05-26 03:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <51a18686$0$30002$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #46027 |
On Sat, 25 May 2013 21:54:43 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: > Of course not every IPv6 endpoint will be able to talk to every other > IPv6 endpoint, even if the both have globally unique addresses. But, > the access controls will be implemented in firewalls with appropriately > coded security policies. Or, more likely, *not* implemented in firewalls with *inappropriately* coded security policies. -- Steven
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| From | 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-01 08:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d7bbb635-0635-47cb-be2f-11ee305c0e5d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #46036 |
Steven D'Aprano於 2013年5月26日星期日UTC+8上午11時50分31秒寫道: > On Sat, 25 May 2013 21:54:43 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: > > > > > Of course not every IPv6 endpoint will be able to talk to every other > > > IPv6 endpoint, even if the both have globally unique addresses. But, > > > the access controls will be implemented in firewalls with appropriately > > > coded security policies. > > > > Or, more likely, *not* implemented in firewalls with *inappropriately* > > coded security policies. > > > > > > > > -- > > Steven Well, both the reliabl tcpip socket and the unstable udp socket are supported in Python. Aso the html and xml part is supported for the dirct web page content analysis through port 80. I am not sure whether Steven is interested in the web applictions.
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| From | Mark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-05-24 20:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2100.1369453117.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #45944 |
I always liked the daily Python-URL from Dr. Dobbs. Summaries of salient discussions on python-dev, ideas, list. interviews with devs on philosophies. quote of the week --m On 5/24/13, DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> wrote: > Planning to start a python online chronicle.What you want to see in it. :) > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- MarkJ Tacoma, Washington
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| From | DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-05-24 20:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1db38d4f-55a3-41c5-9f72-194458f90f9f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #45948 |
On Saturday, May 25, 2013 9:08:28 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote: > I always liked the daily Python-URL from Dr. Dobbs. > quote of the week Thanks zipher we have already planned to continue Python-URL and quote of the week. We will plan for other things that you have mentioned. Thanks again :)
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| From | Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2013-05-25 06:43 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2101.1369453439.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #45944 |
In-depth articles about Python! Like security analisys of modules, packages, frameworks, everything Python related. Performance benchmarks. How a Python technology/solution compares to other competitor technologies. Python competitions/contests/challenges! ---------------------------------------- > Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 20:38:28 -0700 > Subject: Re: Python Magazine > From: dreamingforward@gmail.com > To: rama29065@gmail.com > CC: python-list@python.org > > I always liked the daily Python-URL from Dr. Dobbs. > > Summaries of salient discussions on python-dev, ideas, list. > > interviews with devs on philosophies. > > quote of the week > > --m > > On 5/24/13, DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> wrote: >> Planning to start a python online chronicle.What you want to see in it. :) >> -- >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list >> > > > -- > MarkJ > Tacoma, Washington > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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| From | DRJ Reddy <rama29065@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-05-24 21:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bab8868b-b5e2-472f-8d55-ccaee5bce1ce@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #45951 |
On Saturday, May 25, 2013 9:13:56 AM UTC+5:30, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote: > In-depth articles about Python! Like security analisys of modules, packages, frameworks, everything Python related. > > Performance benchmarks. How a Python technology/solution compares to other competitor technologies. > > Python competitions/contests/challenges! Thankyou for your suggestions. :)
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| From | Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2013-05-25 07:22 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2107.1369455774.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #45956 |
---------------------------------------- > Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 21:10:02 -0700 > Subject: Re: Python Magazine > From: rama29065@gmail.com > To: python-list@python.org > > On Saturday, May 25, 2013 9:13:56 AM UTC+5:30, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote: >> In-depth articles about Python! Like security analisys of modules, packages, frameworks, everything Python related. >> >> Performance benchmarks. How a Python technology/solution compares to other competitor technologies. >> >> Python competitions/contests/challenges! > > Thankyou for your suggestions. :) > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Also, comparison of Python flavors (CPython, PyPy, Cython, Stackles, etc.) -- How do they differ? What's the benefits and hindrances?
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-05-25 14:25 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2108.1369455962.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #45956 |
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> wrote: > Also, comparison of Python flavors (CPython, PyPy, Cython, Stackles, etc.) -- How do they differ? What's the benefits and hindrances? Good point. Could go even more general than that: Just highlight some lesser-known Python and show it off. ChrisA
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| From | Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> |
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| Date | 2013-05-25 11:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <roy-D5BD61.11240325052013@news.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #45960 |
In article <mailman.2108.1369455962.3114.python-list@python.org>, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote: > > Also, comparison of Python flavors (CPython, PyPy, Cython, Stackles, etc.) Stackles? That sounds like breakfast cereal. "New all-natural stackles, with 12 essential vitamins, plus fiber!"
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-05-26 01:30 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2136.1369495860.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #46002 |
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote: > In article <mailman.2108.1369455962.3114.python-list@python.org>, > Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Also, comparison of Python flavors (CPython, PyPy, Cython, Stackles, etc.) > > Stackles? That sounds like breakfast cereal. > > "New all-natural stackles, with 12 essential vitamins, plus fiber!" Heh!! But watch the citations please, I didn't say that - my email was quoting Carlos. ChrisA
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| From | Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2013-05-25 20:28 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2144.1369502895.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #46002 |
---------------------------------------- > From: roy@panix.com > Subject: Re: Python Magazine > Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 11:24:03 -0400 > To: python-list@python.org > > In article <mailman.2108.1369455962.3114.python-list@python.org>, > Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Also, comparison of Python flavors (CPython, PyPy, Cython, Stackles, etc.) > > Stackles? That sounds like breakfast cereal. > > "New all-natural stackles, with 12 essential vitamins, plus fiber!" > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list lol pardon my typo! I'm really considering that cereal! lol
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