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Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer

Started bySteven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info>
First post2016-03-29 11:44 +1100
Last post2016-03-30 12:23 +0200
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  Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-29 11:44 +1100
    Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2016-03-28 21:05 -0700
    Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 22:13 -0600
    [OT] C# -- sharp or carp? was Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2016-03-29 11:39 +0200
    Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer "Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de> - 2016-03-29 12:05 +0200
    Re: [OT] C# -- sharp or carp? was Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer "Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de> - 2016-03-29 12:18 +0200
    Re: [OT] C# -- sharp or carp? was Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer "Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de> - 2016-03-29 17:41 +0200
    Re: [OT] C# -- sharp or carp? was Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2016-03-29 18:05 +0200
    Re: [OT] C# -- sharp or carp? was Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer "Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de> - 2016-03-29 18:11 +0200
    Re: [OT] C# -- sharp or carp? was Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer Vito De Tullio <vito.detullio@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 23:36 +0200
    Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2016-03-29 19:29 -0400
    Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer "Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de> - 2016-03-30 12:07 +0200
      Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-30 11:21 +0100
        Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer "Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de> - 2016-03-30 13:43 +0200
        Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2016-03-30 09:06 -0400
        Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 00:09 +1100
        Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2016-03-30 09:37 -0400
    Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2016-03-30 11:14 +0100
      Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-03-31 10:36 +1300
        Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 09:30 -0700
        Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 10:34 -0600
        Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer "Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de> - 2016-03-31 18:44 +0200
    Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer "Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de> - 2016-03-30 12:23 +0200

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#106173

FromIan Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-31 10:34 -0600
Message-ID<mailman.270.1459442087.28225.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#106114
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:
>>
>> Tim Golden wrote:
>>
>>> (I don't know how other English-speaking groups say the word, but in
>>> England the first syllable is stressed and the second is the
>>> conventional short "uh" sound).
>>
>> I can attest that New Zealand follows the UK on this. I was
>> surprised when I first heard an American pronounce it too.
>>
>> The curious can hear the difference on these pages:
>>
>> British:  http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/python
>> American: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/python?s=t
>
> That does it. If I ever make some sort of open source module for pythun/pythawn I’ll be sure to call it either tuhmayto/tomawto. Or maybe I’ll call it puhtayto/potawto.

Pytato?

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#106174

From"Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de>
Date2016-03-31 18:44 +0200
Message-ID<mailman.271.1459442665.28225.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#106114
On 31.03.2016 18:30, Travis Griggs wrote:
>
>> British:  http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/python
>> American: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/python?s=t
> That does it. If I ever make some sort of open source module for pythun/pythawn I’ll be sure to call it either tuhmayto/tomawto. Or maybe I’ll call it puhtayto/potawto.

Isn't it more like "Pythn"?

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#106043

From"Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de>
Date2016-03-30 12:23 +0200
Message-ID<mailman.189.1459333393.28225.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#105938
On 30.03.2016 12:14, Tim Golden wrote:
> Not that you quite meant this, but I'm always amused (and still a little
> startled) when I listen to talks recorded from, say, PyCon and hear
> people with American accents pronouncing Python with the stress on the
> slightly longer second syllable.
>
> (I don't know how other English-speaking groups say the word, but in
> England the first syllable is stressed and the second is the
> conventional short "uh" sound).
>
> TJG

I recognize this too. I also started with the England variant but now I 
am not so sure anymore. :D

Sven

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