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  Python 3.2 Idle doesn't start. No error message. markrrivet@aol.com - 2011-05-24 08:01 -0400
    Re: Python 3.2 Idle doesn't start. No error message. Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-05-24 12:50 -0400
      Re: Python 3.2 Idle doesn't start. No error message. markrrivet@aol.com - 2011-05-24 16:12 -0400
        Re: Python 3.2 Idle doesn't start. No error message. Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-05-24 17:53 -0400
          Re: Python 3.2 Idle doesn't start. No error message. markrrivet@aol.com - 2011-05-24 18:06 -0400

#6133 — Python 3.2 Idle doesn't start. No error message.

Hello all. I have Python 2.71 installed on my Windows 7 laptop and it
runs fine. I was having a problem with Python 3.2, 32bit, not starting
with an error message saying this application has quit abnormally.
That was fixed when I took the PYTHONPATH statement out of my
environment variables. However, now when I try to start Idle, I can
see some hard drive activity, but Idle for Python 3.2 does not start;
nothing happens. Any clues as to the problem here?

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#6158

On 5/24/2011 8:01 AM, markrrivet@aol.com wrote:
> Hello all. I have Python 2.71 installed on my Windows 7 laptop and it
> runs fine. I was having a problem with Python 3.2, 32bit, not starting
> with an error message saying this application has quit abnormally.
> That was fixed when I took the PYTHONPATH statement out of my
> environment variables. However, now when I try to start Idle, I can
> see some hard drive activity, but Idle for Python 3.2 does not start;
> nothing happens. Any clues as to the problem here?

How do you try to start it?

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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#6170

On Tue, 24 May 2011 12:50:47 -0400, Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
wrote:

>On 5/24/2011 8:01 AM, markrrivet@aol.com wrote:
>> Hello all. I have Python 2.71 installed on my Windows 7 laptop and it
>> runs fine. I was having a problem with Python 3.2, 32bit, not starting
>> with an error message saying this application has quit abnormally.
>> That was fixed when I took the PYTHONPATH statement out of my
>> environment variables. However, now when I try to start Idle, I can
>> see some hard drive activity, but Idle for Python 3.2 does not start;
>> nothing happens. Any clues as to the problem here?
>
>How do you try to start it?

From start|programs|python and clicking on the idle icon.

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#6176

On 5/24/2011 4:12 PM, markrrivet@aol.com wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2011 12:50:47 -0400, Terry Reedy<tjreedy@udel.edu>
>> How do you try to start it?
>
>> From start|programs|python and clicking on the idle icon.

OK. Works fine for me on winxp desktop and win7 laptop.
3.2.1 will be out soon. Whether or not you find a fix before that, 
download it, install, and try again. I think I would uninstall 3.2.0 
first. You could, of course, try re-installing.

I just tried
C:\Documents and Settings\Terry>set PYTHONPATH
Environment variable PYTHONPATH not defined

so undefining that should not be the problem.

The icon properties are not helpful as to how it starts IDLE.
Perhaps is uses ../python32/Lib/idlelib/idle.bat

@echo off
rem Start IDLE using the appropriate Python interpreter
set CURRDIR=%~dp0
start "%CURRDIR%..\..\pythonw.exe" "%CURRDIR%idle.pyw" %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 
%7 %8 %9

In a command prompt window you could directly try something like
C:\Programs\Python32>pythonw Lib\idlelib\idle.pyw
which works for me. Make sure idlelib and idle.pyw are present.
Also check tcl/ and Lib/tkinter/

idle.pyw has
=======================
try:
     import idlelib.PyShell
except ImportError:
     # IDLE is not installed, but maybe PyShell is on sys.path:
     try:
         from . import PyShell
     except ImportError:
         raise
     else:
         import os
         idledir = os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(PyShell.__file__))
         if idledir != os.getcwd():
             # We're not in the IDLE directory, help the subprocess find 
run.py
             pypath = os.environ.get('PYTHONPATH', '')
             if pypath:
                 os.environ['PYTHONPATH'] = pypath + ':' + idledir
             else:
                 os.environ['PYTHONPATH'] = idledir
         PyShell.main()
else:
     idlelib.PyShell.main()
==========================

PYTHONPATH does come into play if but only if two imports fail.
You could make a copy of that and add prints to see what does and does 
not execute.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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#6180

On Tue, 24 May 2011 17:53:53 -0400, Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
wrote:

>On 5/24/2011 4:12 PM, markrrivet@aol.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 May 2011 12:50:47 -0400, Terry Reedy<tjreedy@udel.edu>
>>> How do you try to start it?
>>
>>> From start|programs|python and clicking on the idle icon.
>
>OK. Works fine for me on winxp desktop and win7 laptop.
>3.2.1 will be out soon. Whether or not you find a fix before that, 
>download it, install, and try again. I think I would uninstall 3.2.0 
>first. You could, of course, try re-installing.
>
>I just tried
>C:\Documents and Settings\Terry>set PYTHONPATH
>Environment variable PYTHONPATH not defined
>
>so undefining that should not be the problem.
>
>The icon properties are not helpful as to how it starts IDLE.
>Perhaps is uses ../python32/Lib/idlelib/idle.bat
>
>@echo off
>rem Start IDLE using the appropriate Python interpreter
>set CURRDIR=%~dp0
>start "%CURRDIR%..\..\pythonw.exe" "%CURRDIR%idle.pyw" %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 
>%7 %8 %9
>
>In a command prompt window you could directly try something like
>C:\Programs\Python32>pythonw Lib\idlelib\idle.pyw
>which works for me. Make sure idlelib and idle.pyw are present.
>Also check tcl/ and Lib/tkinter/
>
>idle.pyw has
>=======================
>try:
>     import idlelib.PyShell
>except ImportError:
>     # IDLE is not installed, but maybe PyShell is on sys.path:
>     try:
>         from . import PyShell
>     except ImportError:
>         raise
>     else:
>         import os
>         idledir = os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(PyShell.__file__))
>         if idledir != os.getcwd():
>             # We're not in the IDLE directory, help the subprocess find 
>run.py
>             pypath = os.environ.get('PYTHONPATH', '')
>             if pypath:
>                 os.environ['PYTHONPATH'] = pypath + ':' + idledir
>             else:
>                 os.environ['PYTHONPATH'] = idledir
>         PyShell.main()
>else:
>     idlelib.PyShell.main()
>==========================
>
>PYTHONPATH does come into play if but only if two imports fail.
>You could make a copy of that and add prints to see what does and does 
>not execute.

Thanks Terry, I will do what I can. I'll let you know how it works
out. But thanks again. Every little bit helps me get closer to the
solution.

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