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Re: Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this list and what kinds in the tutor section?

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  Re: Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this list and what kinds in the tutor section? Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2013-02-17 23:10 +0000
    Re: Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this list and what kinds in the tutor section? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-17 16:04 -0800
      Re: Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this list and what kinds in the tutor section? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 12:24 +1100
        Re: Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this list and what kinds in the tutor section? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-02-18 12:31 +1100
          Re: Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this list and what kinds in the tutor section? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-02-18 00:37 -0500
          Re: Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this list and what kinds in the tutor section? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 17:38 +1100
          Re: Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this list and what kinds in the tutor section? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-02-18 19:12 -0500
      Re: Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this list and what kinds in the tutor section? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-02-18 00:31 -0500
    Re: Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this list and what kinds in the tutor section? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-17 16:04 -0800

#39045 — Re: Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this list and what kinds in the tutor section?

On 17 February 2013 00:19, Claira <waveclaira@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me what kinds of questions should be asked in this list and what kinds in the tutor section?

If you're unsure just ask on python-tutor. If the question is not
appropriate there, you'll be offered suggestions for where it would be
appropriate. This typically happens when the problem involves specific
knowledge of extra Python software that is not well-known by most
Python programmers.

Occasionally questions are asked on python-tutor that are not
appropriate there and an alternative list/group is suggested. More
often questions are asked on python-list that would be more
appropriate on python-tutor. I've never seen anyone suggest that a
question be asked on python-tutor when this happens, which is a shame
since the same questions typically get more helpful answers there.


Oscar

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#39048

On Sunday, February 17, 2013 5:10:18 PM UTC-6, Oscar Benjamin wrote:

> More
> often questions are asked on python-list that would be more
> appropriate on python-tutor. I've never seen anyone suggest that a
> question be asked on python-tutor when this happens, which is a shame
> since the same questions typically get more helpful answers there.

I have seen a handful in my years here, but your point is indeed valid. 

However, i believe the whole idea of having more than one mailing list is folly anyway. Why? Case in point: this thread! We have a person who is not sure which list to post a question, meanwhile the question "in question" remains unanswered. 

Many lists employ title tags that help to give a hint of who should answer. like:

[newbie] How to assign variables?
[first timer] Why is Python Zen violated by stdlib?

Or even the ever-present "Help: blah blah blah?" 

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#39055

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Rick Johnson
<rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
> However, i believe the whole idea of having more than one mailing list is folly anyway. Why? Case in point: this thread! We have a person who is not sure which list to post a question, meanwhile the question "in question" remains unanswered.

Great idea! And this isn't Python-specific. Let's merge all the
world's mailing lists into one; you want to ask a question, you just
post it! Doesn't matter what it's about, just ask it and the right
people will see it and respond. This is awesome!

I wonder if Thunderbird 5 was like that.

ChrisA

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#39056

Chris Angelico wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Rick Johnson
> <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> However, i believe the whole idea of having more than one mailing list is
>> folly anyway. Why? Case in point: this thread! We have a person who is
>> not sure which list to post a question, meanwhile the question "in
>> question" remains unanswered.
> 
> Great idea! And this isn't Python-specific. Let's merge all the
> world's mailing lists into one; you want to ask a question, you just
> post it! Doesn't matter what it's about, just ask it and the right
> people will see it and respond. This is awesome!

Are you asking *everyone*? What if the wrong people respond and give you bad
advice? There should be *one* person you can ask, who will answer
everything, with the correct answer to every question.

I suggest the Pope, since we know he's infallible, but if he's too old and
set in his ways for email, perhaps Rick would be almost as good.



-- 
Steven

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#39068

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:31:44 +1100, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:

> 
> I suggest the Pope, since we know he's infallible, but if he's too old and
> set in his ways for email, perhaps Rick would be almost as good.

	Let's kill two birds with one stone...

	Since the Pope is abdicating, write letters to your Cardinal (not
the bird) to nominate Rick as the next Pope.
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
        wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#39072

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:31:44 +1100, Steven D'Aprano
> <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> declaimed the following in
> gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>>
>> I suggest the Pope, since we know he's infallible, but if he's too old and
>> set in his ways for email, perhaps Rick would be almost as good.
>
>         Let's kill two birds with one stone...
>
>         Since the Pope is abdicating, write letters to your Cardinal (not
> the bird) to nominate Rick as the next Pope.

He should perform a miracle first, to prove he's worthy of the
position. (Pope, saint, same thing right? I'm not a Catholic...) I
suggest he produce Python 4000 - that would be clear evidence of
miraculous power.

ChrisA

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#39145

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:38:48 +1100, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:

> 
> He should perform a miracle first, to prove he's worthy of the
> position. (Pope, saint, same thing right? I'm not a Catholic...) I
> suggest he produce Python 4000 - that would be clear evidence of
> miraculous power.
>
	Saints are dead, and I believe need to have two documented miracles
AFTER their death.

	But given that Pope Benedict (Arnold) had been the head of the
modern Inquisition (Office for the Doctrine of the Faith, or some such)
it seems an ideal fit for Rick.
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
        wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#39067

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:24:11 +1100, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:

> 
> I wonder if Thunderbird 5 was like that.
>
	And with only one person monitoring all the traffic...
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
        wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#39049

On Sunday, February 17, 2013 5:10:18 PM UTC-6, Oscar Benjamin wrote:

> More
> often questions are asked on python-list that would be more
> appropriate on python-tutor. I've never seen anyone suggest that a
> question be asked on python-tutor when this happens, which is a shame
> since the same questions typically get more helpful answers there.

I have seen a handful in my years here, but your point is indeed valid. 

However, i believe the whole idea of having more than one mailing list is folly anyway. Why? Case in point: this thread! We have a person who is not sure which list to post a question, meanwhile the question "in question" remains unanswered. 

Many lists employ title tags that help to give a hint of who should answer. like:

[newbie] How to assign variables?
[first timer] Why is Python Zen violated by stdlib?

Or even the ever-present "Help: blah blah blah?" 

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