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Bad text appearance in IDLE

Started by"ast" <nomail@invalid.com>
First post2015-02-12 13:26 +0100
Last post2015-02-20 10:40 +0100
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  Bad text appearance in IDLE "ast" <nomail@invalid.com> - 2015-02-12 13:26 +0100
    Re: Bad text appearance in IDLE Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-02-12 16:12 -0500
      Re: Bad text appearance in IDLE "ast" <nomail@invalid.com> - 2015-02-13 16:04 +0100
    Re: Bad text appearance in IDLE "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2015-02-13 06:22 +0200
      Re: Bad text appearance in IDLE "ast" <nomail@invalid.com> - 2015-02-13 16:06 +0100
    Re: Bad text appearance in IDLE "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> - 2015-02-14 06:50 -0500
      Re: Bad text appearance in IDLE "ast" <nomail@invalid.com> - 2015-02-20 10:40 +0100

#85577 — Bad text appearance in IDLE

From"ast" <nomail@invalid.com>
Date2015-02-12 13:26 +0100
SubjectBad text appearance in IDLE
Message-ID<54dc9bee$0$3046$426a34cc@news.free.fr>
Hello

Here is how text appears in IDLE window
http://www.cjoint.com/data/0BmnEIcxVAx.htm

Yesterday evening I had not this trouble. It appears
this morning. I restarted my computer with no effect.

A windows Vista update has been done this morning, 
with about 10 fixes. I suspect something gone wrong 
with this update

Has somebody an explanation about that ?

thx

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#85616

FromTerry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Date2015-02-12 16:12 -0500
Message-ID<mailman.18714.1423775571.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#85577
On 2/12/2015 7:26 AM, ast wrote:
> Hello
>
> Here is how text appears in IDLE window
> http://www.cjoint.com/data/0BmnEIcxVAx.htm

Do you get anything similar when running the console interpreter?

> Yesterday evening I had not this trouble. It appears
> this morning. I restarted my computer with no effect.
>
> A windows Vista update has been done this morning, with about 10 fixes.
> I suspect something gone wrong with this update
>
> Has somebody an explanation about that ?

Assuming not, the difference between them is that Idle writes to the 
screen via a tkinter (tk) text widget.  You might try something like 
this to see if tkinter is generally not working, even when run without Idle.

import tkinter as tk

root = tk.Tk()
text = tk.Text()
text.pack()
text.insert('1.0', 'this is a test eeeccee')

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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#85643

From"ast" <nomail@invalid.com>
Date2015-02-13 16:04 +0100
Message-ID<54de1285$0$2980$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#85616
"Terry Reedy" <tjreedy@udel.edu> a écrit dans le message de 
news:mailman.18714.1423775571.18130.python-list@python.org...

> Do you get anything similar when running the console interpreter?

yes

> import tkinter as tk
>
> root = tk.Tk()
> text = tk.Text()
> text.pack()
> text.insert('1.0', 'this is a test eeeccee')
>

same problem with the text 'this is a test eeeccee' written
on the Text() widget 

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#85628

From"Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com>
Date2015-02-13 06:22 +0200
Message-ID<mailman.18720.1423801380.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#85577
"ast" <nomail@invalid.com> wrote in message 
news:54dc9bee$0$3046$426a34cc@news.free.fr...
> Hello
>
> Here is how text appears in IDLE window
> http://www.cjoint.com/data/0BmnEIcxVAx.htm
>
> Yesterday evening I had not this trouble. It appears
> this morning. I restarted my computer with no effect.
>
> A windows Vista update has been done this morning, with about 10 fixes. I 
> suspect something gone wrong with this update
>
> Has somebody an explanation about that ?
>
> thx
>

I use Windows Server 2003. It also ran an automatic update yesterday. 
Something seems to have gone wrong with the system font. I don't use IDLE, 
but I use OutlookExpress and Textpad, and they both show a similar effect.

I can live with it for now. I am hoping (with fingers crossed) that enough 
people will complain to Microsoft that they will issue a fix shortly.

Frank Millman


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#85644

From"ast" <nomail@invalid.com>
Date2015-02-13 16:06 +0100
Message-ID<54de12e4$0$3072$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#85628
"Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> a écrit dans le message de 
news:mailman.18720.1423801380.18130.python-list@python.org...

> I use Windows Server 2003. It also ran an automatic update yesterday. Something seems to have gone 
> wrong with the system font. I don't use IDLE, but I use OutlookExpress and Textpad, and they both 
> show a similar effect.
>
> I can live with it for now.

me too

> I am hoping (with fingers crossed) that enough people will complain to Microsoft that they will 
> issue a fix shortly.
>

thx for informations.

so I am going to complain to microsoft too 

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#85674

From"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net>
Date2015-02-14 06:50 -0500
Message-ID<CZGdnVx2faf0q0LJnZ2dnUU7-UWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#85577
From: "ast" <nomail@invalid.com>

> Hello
>
> Here is how text appears in IDLE window
> http://www.cjoint.com/data/0BmnEIcxVAx.htm
>
> Yesterday evening I had not this trouble. It appears
> this morning. I restarted my computer with no effect.
>
> A windows Vista update has been done this morning, with about 10 fixes. I 
> suspect something gone wrong with this update
>
> Has somebody an explanation about that ?
>
> thx


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3013455
KB3013455 has been found to be causing Display Font problems for Windows 
Vista and Server 2003.

A partial mitigation is to use ClearType Font Smoothing.  It will greatly 
help but will not fix all Display Font viewing problems.

Right-Click on the Desktop.
Choose "Personalize" ---> Window Color and Appearance --> effects
Check the box for; "Use the following method to smooth edges of screen 
fonts"
Set it to; ClearType

It is recommended to remove this HotFix  and then hide it from further 
download ( at least until it is fixed ).

-- 
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp 

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#85962

From"ast" <nomail@invalid.com>
Date2015-02-20 10:40 +0100
Message-ID<54e700fe$0$3299$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#85674
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> a écrit dans le message de 
news:CZGdnVx2faf0q0LJnZ2dnUU7-UWdnZ2d@giganews.com...

>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3013455
> KB3013455 has been found to be causing Display Font problems for Windows Vista and Server 2003.
>
> A partial mitigation is to use ClearType Font Smoothing.  It will greatly help but will not fix 
> all Display Font viewing problems.
>
> It is recommended to remove this HotFix  and then hide it from further download ( at least until 
> it is fixed ).
>
> -- 

thanks a lot
I removed the fix and wait for Microsoft to fix it's fix 

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