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  Unicode humor Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-08 09:19 -0400
    Re: Unicode humor Sven <svenito@gmail.com> - 2013-05-08 15:30 +0100
    Re: Unicode humor Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2013-05-08 19:16 +0200
    Re: Unicode humor jmfauth <wxjmfauth@gmail.com> - 2013-05-10 08:06 -0700
      Re: Unicode humor Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-11 01:16 +1000
        Re: Unicode humor Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-05-11 07:01 +0000
          Re: Unicode humor Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-05-11 15:28 -0400
      Re: Unicode humor Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-05-10 11:24 -0400
      Re: Unicode humor Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-11 01:32 +1000
        Re: Unicode humor rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-05-10 09:07 -0700
          Re: Unicode humor MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-05-10 17:24 +0100
          Re: Unicode humor Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2013-05-10 09:26 -0700
          Re: Unicode humor Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-11 22:48 +1000
          Re: Unicode humor Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-05-11 13:40 +0100
          Re: Unicode humor Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-11 02:25 +1000

#44953 — Unicode humor

Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on 
recently:

http://xkcd.com/1209/

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#44955

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I saw this this morning and the first thing I thought of was this list...

unlike you I was too lazy to post it :)


On 8 May 2013 14:19, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:

> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
> recently:
>
> http://xkcd.com/1209/
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>



-- 
./Sven

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#44956

Am 08.05.13 15:19, schrieb Roy Smith:
> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
> recently:
>
> http://xkcd.com/1209/
>
http://xkcd.com/1137/

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#45103

On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith <r...@panix.com> wrote:
> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
> recently:
>
> http://xkcd.com/1209/

------


This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.

jmf

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#45105

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:06 AM, jmfauth <wxjmfauth@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith <r...@panix.com> wrote:
>> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
>> recently:
>>
>> http://xkcd.com/1209/
>
> ------
>
>
> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.

By the skywriter, or by the two on the ground, or by Randall Munroe?

Or by jmf?

ChrisA

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#45126

On Sat, 11 May 2013 01:16:36 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:

> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:06 AM, jmfauth <wxjmfauth@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith <r...@panix.com> wrote:
>>> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
>>> recently:
>>>
>>> http://xkcd.com/1209/
>>
>> ------
>>
>>
>> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.
> 
> By the skywriter, or by the two on the ground, or by Randall Munroe?

Obviously by all three. It takes *hours* to execute

'è'*1000.replace('è', 'ã')

using a skywriting plane, so obviously it isn't Unicode compliant.



-- 
Steven

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#45148

On 11 May 2013 07:01:34 GMT, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:

> 
> Obviously by all three. It takes *hours* to execute
> 
> 'è'*1000.replace('è', 'ã')
> 
> using a skywriting plane, so obviously it isn't Unicode compliant.
>
	But is fully conformant with Python's immutable string type as one
has to fly the new skywriting path -- and then maybe garbage collect the
old message (maybe using a swath of helicopters to wipe out/disperse the
lettering)
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
        wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#45108

On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote:
> On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith <r...@panix.com> wrote:
>> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
>> recently:
>>
>> http://xkcd.com/1209/
> ------
>
>
> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.
>
> jmf

And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor.  :)

--Ned.

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#45109

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> wrote:
> On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote:
>>
>> On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith <r...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
>>> recently:
>>>
>>> http://xkcd.com/1209/
>>
>> ------
>>
>>
>> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.
>>
>> jmf
>
>
> And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor.  :)

Isn't that a crime in the UK?

ChrisA

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#45112

On May 10, 8:32 pm, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com> wrote:
> > On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote:
>
> >> On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith <r...@panix.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
> >>> recently:
>
> >>>http://xkcd.com/1209/
>
> >> ------
>
> >> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.
>
> >> jmf
>
> > And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor.  :)
>
> Isn't that a crime in the UK?
>
> ChrisA

The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that
its not unicode compliant

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#45113

On 10/05/2013 17:07, rusi wrote:
> On May 10, 8:32 pm, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com> wrote:
>> > On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote:
>>
>> >> On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith <r...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
>> >>> recently:
>>
>> >>>http://xkcd.com/1209/
>>
>> >> ------
>>
>> >> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.
>>
>> >> jmf
>>
>> > And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor.  :)
>>
>> Isn't that a crime in the UK?
>>
>> ChrisA
>
> The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that
> its not unicode compliant
>
British humour includes "double entendre", which is not French-compliant.

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#45114

On 05/10/2013 09:07 AM, rusi wrote:
> On May 10, 8:32 pm, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote:
>>
>>>> On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith <r...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
>>>>> recently:
>>
>>>>> http://xkcd.com/1209/
>>
>>>> ------
>>
>>>> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.
>>
>>>> jmf
>>
>>> And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor.  :)
>>
>> Isn't that a crime in the UK?
>>
>> ChrisA
>
> The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that
> its not unicode compliant

Is so!  It fits inside the first 127 code points!!

As a bonus it also takes less brain power^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H space.  ;)

--
~Ethan~

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#45135

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> This simply shows bias to the English speaking world, as does Python
> unicode, at least in 3.3+.  I wouldn't mind betting that other languages
> can't cope, e.g. can 3.3+ manage the top secret joke that's so deadly even
> the Germans die laughing?

It most certainly can. However, the space it takes up depends on how
you encode the combining characters; for maximal efficiency of
transmission, you would want to use the fully-composed version,
because like music, if it isn't composed, it's decomposed.

ChrisA

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#45137

On 10/05/2013 17:25, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 2:07 AM, rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 10, 8:32 pm, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith <r...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
>>>>>> recently:
>>>
>>>>>> http://xkcd.com/1209/
>>>
>>>>> ------
>>>
>>>>> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.
>>>
>>>>> jmf
>>>
>>>> And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor.  :)
>>>
>>> Isn't that a crime in the UK?
>>>
>>> ChrisA
>>
>> The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that
>> its not unicode compliant
>
> Unicode humour was carefully laid out to incorporate English humour.
> In fact, if you use the standard variable-length-joke encoding, it's
> possible for a Unicode joke to be decoded as if it were an English
> joke, without any actual knowledge of Unicode. Unfortunately, this can
> result in non-compliant English humour publishers producing jokes that
> come out as gibberish in the rest of the world. Fortunately, we then
> get to laugh at them.
>
> ChrisA
>

This simply shows bias to the English speaking world, as does Python 
unicode, at least in 3.3+.  I wouldn't mind betting that other languages 
can't cope, e.g. can 3.3+ manage the top secret joke that's so deadly 
even the Germans die laughing?

-- 
If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this 
http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython.

Mark Lawrence

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#45140

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 2:07 AM, rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 10, 8:32 pm, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com> wrote:
>> > On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote:
>>
>> >> On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith <r...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
>> >>> recently:
>>
>> >>>http://xkcd.com/1209/
>>
>> >> ------
>>
>> >> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.
>>
>> >> jmf
>>
>> > And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor.  :)
>>
>> Isn't that a crime in the UK?
>>
>> ChrisA
>
> The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that
> its not unicode compliant

Unicode humour was carefully laid out to incorporate English humour.
In fact, if you use the standard variable-length-joke encoding, it's
possible for a Unicode joke to be decoded as if it were an English
joke, without any actual knowledge of Unicode. Unfortunately, this can
result in non-compliant English humour publishers producing jokes that
come out as gibberish in the rest of the world. Fortunately, we then
get to laugh at them.

ChrisA

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