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  which a is used? Jayden <jayden.shui@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 16:43 -0700
    Re: which a is used? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 19:57 -0400
    Re: which a is used? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 20:06 -0400
    Re: which a is used? alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 17:08 -0700
      Re: which a is used? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 21:13 -0400
        Re: which a is used? alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 19:14 -0700
          Re: which a is used? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 22:37 -0400
            Re: which a is used? Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-09-25 07:07 +0200
              Re: which a is used? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 01:30 -0400
                Re: which a is used? alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 05:48 -0700
              Re: which a is used? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-25 08:44 +0100
              Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?) D'Arcy Cain <darcy@druid.net> - 2012-09-25 09:53 -0400
              Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?) David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 21:00 -0400
              Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?) Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 03:06 -0400
                Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?) alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 17:40 -0700
                  Re: Stop feeding the trolls Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-09-27 13:06 +1000
                  Re: Stop feeding the trolls Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 23:39 -0400
                  Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?) Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 23:47 -0400
                  Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 14:40 +1000
                  Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?) Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 00:50 -0400
                  Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?) "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@tysdomain.com> - 2012-09-27 23:12 -0600
                  Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?) Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 01:21 -0400
                    Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?) rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 22:51 -0700
                      Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?) Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 02:20 -0400
              Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?) Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 03:07 -0400
          Re: which a is used? "Colin J. Williams" <cjw@ncf.ca> - 2012-09-25 08:52 -0400
        Re: which a is used? Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-09-25 07:06 +0200
          Re: which a is used? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 01:22 -0400
            Re: which a is used? Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-09-25 07:39 +0200
      Re: which a is used? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-25 01:05 -0400
    Re: which a is used? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-25 01:18 +0000
      Re: which a is used? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 21:47 -0400
        Re: which a is used? Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-09-25 07:06 +0200
      Re: which a is used? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 21:50 -0400
    Re: which a is used? Alain Ketterlin <alain@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> - 2012-09-25 11:30 +0200

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#29963 — which a is used?

Dear All,

I have a simple code as follows:

# Begin
a = 1

def f():
    print a

def g():
    a = 20
    f()

g()
#End

I think the results should be 20, but it is 1. Would you please tell me why?

Thanks a lot!

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#29969

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Jayden <jayden.shui@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I have a simple code as follows:
>
> # Begin
> a = 1
>
> def f():
>     print a
>
> def g():
>     a = 20
>     f()
>
> g()
> #End
>
> I think the results should be 20, but it is 1. Would you please tell me why?
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

didn't return the value, or print it out


-- 
Best Regards,
David Hutto
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com

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#29972

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Jayden <jayden.shui@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I have a simple code as follows:
>>
>> # Begin
>> a = 1
>>
>> def f():
>>     print a
>>
>> def g():
>>     a = 20
>>     f()

this prints a from calling f() function

call print a wasn't in a class where it was self.a and changed, so it
performed the function f which prints a and a = 1, but g just assigns
the 20, and calls the f() function which shows a, there is no self.a,
nor a class to show this in.



>>
>> g()
>> #End
>>
>> I think the results should be 20, but it is 1. Would you please tell me why?
>>
>> Thanks a lot!
>>
>> --
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>
> didn't return the value, or print it out
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> David Hutto
> CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com



-- 
Best Regards,
David Hutto
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com

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#29973

On Sep 25, 9:43 am, Jayden <jayden.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I have a simple code as follows:
>
> # Begin
> a = 1
>
> def f():
>     print a
>
> def g():
>     a = 20
>     f()
>
> g()
> #End
>
> I think the results should be 20, but it is 1. Would you please tell me why?

Because you don't declare 'a' in 'f', it looks for 'a' in the
surrounding scope _where it was defined_, not where it was called.
Because 'a' in the module scope is 1, you'll get 1.

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#29985

Anything else bitch, take time to think about it.
-- 
Best Regards,
David Hutto
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com

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#29996

On Sep 25, 11:13 am, Dwight Hutto <dwightdhu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> bitch

I honestly could not care less what you think about me, but don't use
that term. This isn't a boys' club and we don't need your hurt ego
driving people away from here.

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#30000

> I honestly could not care less what you think about me, but don't use
> that term. This isn't a boys' club and we don't need your hurt ego
> driving people away from here.

OOOOOOOOOHHHHH. stirrin up shit and can't stand the smell. Turn and
switch technique. "You're so vulgar, and I wasn't."Go get a clue ho,
and then you can gumshoe it up the last crack alley on the left, and
suck till my nut hair tickles your tonsils.




> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list



-- 
Best Regards,
David Hutto
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com

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#30018

Am 25.09.2012 04:37 schrieb Dwight Hutto:
>> I honestly could not care less what you think about me, but don't use
>> that term. This isn't a boys' club and we don't need your hurt ego
>> driving people away from here.
>
> OOOOOOOOOHHHHH. stirrin up shit and can't stand the smell.

Where did he so?


Thomas

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#30022

>> OOOOOOOOOHHHHH. stirrin up shit and can't stand the smell.
>
>
> Where did he so?
>


You'd have to read the other posts. And remember that some of these
names are A.K.A.'s, they ask respond, and befriend another name
through another proxy.


-- 
Best Regards,
David Hutto
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com

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#30074

On Sep 25, 3:30 pm, Dwight Hutto <dwightdhu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You'd have to read the other posts. And remember that some of these
> names are A.K.A.'s, they ask respond, and befriend another name
> through another proxy.

You've actively accused me of this several times. If you have evidence
that there's sockpuppeting, please provide it.

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#30036

On 25/09/2012 06:07, Thomas Rachel wrote:
> Am 25.09.2012 04:37 schrieb Dwight Hutto:
>>> I honestly could not care less what you think about me, but don't use
>>> that term. This isn't a boys' club and we don't need your hurt ego
>>> driving people away from here.
>>
>> OOOOOOOOOHHHHH. stirrin up shit and can't stand the smell.
>
> Where did he so?
>
>
> Thomas

He's referring to threads on the tutor mailing list where I have 
repeatedly asking him to provide context when he replies.  Unfortunately 
he doesn't seem to understand the term context so resorts to attacking 
me.  In a part of one thread he referred to my family as pigs.  I've 
have lived with that, using the sticks and stones reply, but then 
someone had the audacity to protect his stance.  I am sure that people 
have seen enough of his behaviour in the last few hours to see the real 
Dwight Hutto so I'll leave it at that.

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence.

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#30084 — Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?)

On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 08:44:18 +0100
Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 25/09/2012 06:07, Thomas Rachel wrote:
> > Am 25.09.2012 04:37 schrieb Dwight Hutto:
[...usual nonsense]

> someone had the audacity to protect his stance.  I am sure that people 
> have seen enough of his behaviour in the last few hours to see the real 
> Dwight Hutto so I'll leave it at that.

Now if only people would stop feeding the troll, those of us who have
already *plonked* him can stop seeing his ramblings in the responses.

-- 
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http://www.druid.net/darcy/                |  and a sheep voting on
+1 416 425 1212     (DoD#0082)    (eNTP)   |  what's for dinner.
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#30137 — Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?)

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:53 AM, D'Arcy Cain <darcy@druid.net> wrote:
> ...
> Now if only people would stop feeding the troll, those of us who have
> already *plonked* him can stop seeing his ramblings in the responses.
 I'm hating myself for jumping in to this nonsense, but ...
+1

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#30148 — Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?)

You can "Plonk" my dick bitches.


-- 
Best Regards,
David Hutto
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com

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#30258 — Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?)

On Sep 26, 5:06 pm, Dwight Hutto <dwightdhu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You can "Plonk" my dick bitches.

You do understand that when you have so many people react badly to how
you phrase things, that the problem most likely lies with you and not
them? That the only person who actually reacts favourably to this
garbage coming from you is *you*?

There is no place for racist or sexist speech here. Reply personally
to whomever you want with whatever invective you choose, that's your
right (just as it is their right to flag your emails as spam, as I
have). But this is a place for public discussion and, again, we do not
need you driving away people who might actually contribute positively
simply because you're unable or unwilling to always do so.

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#30271 — Re: Stop feeding the trolls

alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sep 26, 5:06 pm, Dwight Hutto <dwightdhu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > You can "Plonk" my dick bitches.
>
> You do understand that when you have so many people react badly to how
> you phrase things, that the problem most likely lies with you and not
> them? That the only person who actually reacts favourably to this
> garbage coming from you is *you*?

There have been ample opportunities for him to realise this. It's past
time to stop feeding this troll, please.

-- 
 \         “Alternative explanations are always welcome in science, if |
  `\   they are better and explain more. Alternative explanations that |
_o__) explain nothing are not welcome.” —Victor J. Stenger, 2001-11-05 |
Ben Finney

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#30350 — Re: Stop feeding the trolls

It's past
> time to stop feeding this troll, please.

You mean like the post above you sent....bitch please, I'm eatin good right now.


-- 
Best Regards,
David Hutto
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com

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#30351 — Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?)

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:40 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 26, 5:06 pm, Dwight Hutto <dwightdhu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You can "Plonk" my dick bitches.
>
> You do understand that when you have so many people react badly to how
> you phrase things, that the problem most likely lies with you and not
> them?

Depends on the demographic.

That the only person who actually reacts favourably to this
> garbage coming from you is *you*?

Yeah...I'm egotistical.

>
> There is no place for racist or sexist speech here. \

There never was any from me

Reply personally
> to whomever you want with whatever invective you choose, that's your
> right (just as it is their right to flag your emails as spam, as I
> have).

Yeah, hit the mute button if you don't like me. That's a brilliant
fucking idea...buddy.

 But this is a place for public discussion and, again, we do not
> need you driving away people who might actually contribute positively
> simply because you're unable or unwilling to always do so.

Uhm, I do post appropriately, unless you're trolling the board, with a
few other avatars, and buddies in order to stomp a flame war someone
else started...IMHO.


-- 
Best Regards,
David Hutto
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com

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#30355 — Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?)

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> wrote:
> [ lots of screed that demonstrates that Dwight hasn't grokked the hacker culture ]

Dwight, have a read of these documents. They may help you to
understand how the python-list community operates, and perhaps more
so, why most of the regulars here think the way they do. Actually,
this may be of interest to quite a few people, so I'll post it
on-list.

http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/

ChrisA

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#30357 — Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?)

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [ lots of screed that demonstrates that Dwight hasn't grokked the hacker culture ]

Don't hack, but could very well if necessary.

>
> Dwight, have a read of these documents. They may help you to
> understand how the python-list community operates, and perhaps more
> so, why most of the regulars here think the way they do.

They have double digit I.Q.'s ?

Actually,
> this may be of interest to quite a few people, so I'll post it
> on-list.

Go right ahead....buddy.

>
> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/
>
> ChrisA
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list



-- 
Best Regards,
David Hutto
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com

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