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  Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 21:29 -0400
    Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2012-09-24 21:28 -0700
      Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 00:43 -0400
        Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-25 07:50 +0000
      Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@tysdomain.com> - 2012-09-24 23:07 -0600
      Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-25 01:08 -0400
        Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 07:37 -0700
        Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 07:37 -0700
      Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 01:19 -0400
      Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-09-24 22:25 -0700
      Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 01:52 -0400
      Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Kushal Das <kushaldas@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 11:32 +0530
      Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2012-09-24 23:33 -0700
      Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-09-26 11:47 +1000
      Re: Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not? Wayne Werner <wayne@waynewerner.com> - 2012-09-26 20:34 -0500

#29989 — Who's laughing at my responses, and who's not?

Been getting slammed by a few for some insignificant things, so who's
laughing at me, and who takes me seriously. I don't claim to be the
best, just trying to help.

So who doesn't want me around?

-- 
Best Regards,
David Hutto
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com

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#30006

Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Been getting slammed by a few for some insignificant things, so who's
>laughing at me, and who takes me seriously. I don't claim to be the
>best, just trying to help.
>
>So who doesn't want me around?

Who cares?  There are probably hundreds of thousands of people reading this
forum.  A few of those people probably don't like you.  So what?

Illegitemi non carborondum -- don't let the bastards wear you down.
-- 
Tim Roberts, timr@probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

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#30010

It sounds pretentious, but over the past several days, I've been
slammed on every post almost. All because of an argument over me not
posting a little context in a conversation, that seemed short and
chatty.

I was just wondering, if it's just them, or if it's my netiquette.


-- 
Best Regards,
David Hutto
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com

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#30038

On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 00:43:18 -0400, Dwight Hutto wrote:

> It sounds pretentious, but over the past several days, I've been slammed
> on every post almost. 

That's a gross exaggeration.

Over the last few days you have gotten slammed because you mildly broke 
etiquette and then, instead of accepting the minor criticism and moving 
on, you got into an argument about it, and made what seemed like a 
racially motivated joke. Even if it were completely innocent, it didn't 
*seem* innocent.

And then you make rude comments about people, sexist comments about there 
being "ladies present" (my wife can turn the air blue, and sometimes she 
embarrasses me), and you recently accused others of being sock-puppets 
without a shred of evidence.

Dwight, or David if you prefer, sometimes you make useful comments and 
you can be a welcome, useful member of the Python community, but other 
times you display an incoherent, rambling, aggressive style that 
indicates that you are posting while high or drunk.

For your own sake, I suggest you stay off the Internet (including email 
and usenet) unless sober.



-- 
Steven

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#30014

On 9/24/2012 10:43 PM, Dwight Hutto wrote:
> It sounds pretentious, but over the past several days, I've been
> slammed on every post almost. All because of an argument over me not
> posting a little context in a conversation, that seemed short and
> chatty.
>
> I was just wondering, if it's just them, or if it's my netiquette.
>
> I think you'd have a leg to stand on here if you didn't start cursing at anyone who got on your wrong side. It wasn't really an issue until you threw that
> up. Granted you did take your cursing off list finally, but you still continued (and as of about 2 hours ago) continue to post trash like you did in response
> to Alix's message. If you want to argue something, by all means argue. But there's no need to resort to comments like you've made.

-- Take care, Ty http://tds-solutions.net The aspen project: a barebones 
light-weight mud engine: http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud He that will 
not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares 
not reason is a slave.

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#30015

On 9/25/2012 12:43 AM, Dwight Hutto wrote:
> It sounds pretentious, but over the past several days, I've been
> slammed on every post almost. All because of an argument over me not
> posting a little context in a conversation, that seemed short and
> chatty.
>
> I was just wondering, if it's just them, or if it's my netiquette.

A 1000 line post with a one line response is not polite. Context free 
posts are disconcerting, but easier to ignore. Keep at least one 
sentence of context and cut the potty mouth stuff.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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#30090

On Tuesday, 25 September 2012 10:40:02 UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy  wrote:
> On 9/25/2012 12:43 AM, Dwight Hutto wrote:
> 
> > It sounds pretentious, but over the past several days, I've been
> 
> > slammed on every post almost. All because of an argument over me not
> 
> > posting a little context in a conversation, that seemed short and
> 
> > chatty.
> 
> >
> 
> > I was just wondering, if it's just them, or if it's my netiquette.
> 
> 
> 
> A 1000 line post with a one line response is not polite. Context free 
> 
> posts are disconcerting, but easier to ignore. Keep at least one 
> 
> sentence of context and cut the potty mouth stuff.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Terry Jan Reedy

+1

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#30091

On Tuesday, 25 September 2012 10:40:02 UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy  wrote:
> On 9/25/2012 12:43 AM, Dwight Hutto wrote:
> 
> > It sounds pretentious, but over the past several days, I've been
> 
> > slammed on every post almost. All because of an argument over me not
> 
> > posting a little context in a conversation, that seemed short and
> 
> > chatty.
> 
> >
> 
> > I was just wondering, if it's just them, or if it's my netiquette.
> 
> 
> 
> A 1000 line post with a one line response is not polite. Context free 
> 
> posts are disconcerting, but easier to ignore. Keep at least one 
> 
> sentence of context and cut the potty mouth stuff.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Terry Jan Reedy

+1

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#30019

> context and cut the potty mouth stuff.
It was meant as a little shop talk, but I forgot there were ladies here as well.


-- 
Best Regards,
David Hutto
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com

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#30023

Dwight Hutto wrote:
>> context and cut the potty mouth stuff.
> It was meant as a little shop talk, but I forgot there were ladies here as well.

Not only ladies, but gentlemen.  Foul-mouthed "shop talk" is not 
necessary to teach Python.  Practice some self-control, or at least 
self-editing.

~Ethan~

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#30027

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> wrote:
> Dwight Hutto wrote:
>>>
>>> context and cut the potty mouth stuff.
>>
>> It was meant as a little shop talk, but I forgot there were ladies here as
>> well.
>
>
> Not only ladies, but gentlemen.  Foul-mouthed "shop talk" is not necessary
> to teach Python.  Practice some self-control, or at least self-editing.
>

It's a little guy talk, and most seem to be guys. A little, "hey
buddy, this seems like like bullshit", seems ok around here, and it's
a first amendment.

> ~Ethan~
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list



-- 
Best Regards,
David Hutto
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com

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#30029

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's a little guy talk, and most seem to be guys. A little, "hey
> buddy, this seems like like bullshit", seems ok around here, and it's
> a first amendment.

First amendment does not apply to all the international people here.
Everyone should check twice what they are writing in the list.

Kushal
-- 
http://fedoraproject.org
http://kushaldas.in

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#30030

In article 
<CA+vVgJWZ6m5gadJAXg8O8-vwdXt7e-zYxwb8r4U=LDnS=nwn7Q@mail.gmail.com>,
 Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's a little guy talk, and most seem to be guys. A little, "hey
> buddy, this seems like like bullshit", seems ok around here, and it's
> a first amendment.

It's not OK around here.   "Spirited" discussion is fine and to be 
expected but the Python community is *very* serious about mutual respect 
and respecting diversity.  If you want to be taken seriously here, 
please keep that in mind.

http://www.python.org/community/diversity/

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 nad@acm.org

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#30140

Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> writes:

> It's a little guy talk, and most seem to be guys.

Potty mouth is not “guy talk”, and sexism is not welcome here.

-- 
 \      “The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But |
  `\     the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound |
_o__)                                              truth.” —Niels Bohr |
Ben Finney

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#30265

On Tue, 25 Sep 2012, Dwight Hutto wrote:

> It sounds pretentious, but over the past several days, I've been
> slammed on every post almost. All because of an argument over me not
> posting a little context in a conversation, that seemed short and
> chatty.

Your being slammed has nothing to do with your lack of context, and 
everything to do with the fact that the way you responded to it was 
through ad hominem attacks, and the fact that most of your responses read 
like a transcript from kids I remember in junior high.

It's annoying to most people - the same way pretentious teenage nitwits 
annoy most people who are interested in talking about Python code, and not 
who did what to who.

-Wayne

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