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| Started by | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2012-09-25 09:15 +0100 |
| Last post | 2012-09-27 17:59 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 135 — 30 participants |
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Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-25 09:15 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2012-09-25 09:26 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-09-25 09:44 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-25 15:35 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 01:48 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 02:28 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 05:39 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2012-09-26 09:30 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Matej Cepl <mcepl@redhat.com> - 2012-09-27 00:44 +0200
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-27 00:44 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 15:37 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-27 06:01 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 16:08 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-27 13:59 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 00:32 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> - 2012-09-28 01:22 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Jason Friedman <jason@powerpull.net> - 2012-09-27 21:05 -0600
Re: Article on the future of Python "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@tysdomain.com> - 2012-09-27 21:14 -0600
Re: Article on the future of Python Wayne Werner <wayne@waynewerner.com> - 2012-09-27 22:37 -0500
Re: Article on the future of Python Greg Donald <gdonald@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 22:50 -0500
Re: Article on the future of Python Greg Donald <gdonald@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 23:12 -0500
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 14:37 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python rurpy@yahoo.com - 2012-09-28 08:52 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python rurpy@yahoo.com - 2012-09-28 08:52 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-09-28 10:31 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-29 00:58 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 09:14 -0600
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-29 01:20 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 12:20 +0300
Re: Article on the future of Python Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-09-25 12:13 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-25 10:27 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python "Martin P. Hellwig" <martin.hellwig@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 06:56 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python "Martin P. Hellwig" <martin.hellwig@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 06:56 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-25 18:25 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-09-25 16:34 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-25 23:35 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-26 07:23 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 02:31 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 19:55 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 07:19 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 00:24 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 07:50 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 00:56 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 08:17 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 08:17 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-26 16:08 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 01:18 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 08:45 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 08:45 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-27 09:33 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Alex Strickland <sscc@mweb.co.za> - 2012-09-27 12:43 +0200
Re: Article on the future of Python Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 15:46 +0300
Re: Article on the future of Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 09:06 -0600
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-27 17:03 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 20:17 +0300
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-27 12:09 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-27 21:16 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 08:00 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-27 12:09 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-27 15:08 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-28 10:16 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 07:50 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 07:19 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-27 00:36 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-26 09:52 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 03:04 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-26 10:32 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 11:35 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-26 14:21 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 09:53 -0600
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 09:18 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 09:18 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-09-26 00:17 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 03:39 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 17:44 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 04:11 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-26 04:13 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 05:19 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 23:43 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-09-26 09:08 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-26 19:24 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 05:19 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-26 09:34 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 05:17 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 17:14 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> - 2012-09-27 01:37 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-26 05:17 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-26 09:37 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 18:44 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 04:45 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 04:47 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-26 10:01 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-27 00:40 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-27 02:10 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 05:09 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@tysdomain.com> - 2012-09-26 07:31 -0600
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-26 14:43 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 23:51 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-09-26 09:05 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-26 16:27 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 18:38 -0700
Re: Fwd: Re: Article on the future of Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-26 19:29 -0400
Re: Fwd: Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 09:42 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-26 00:54 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-25 18:04 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 14:10 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-26 05:16 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 16:02 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-25 23:09 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-26 09:32 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Hannu Krosing <hannu@krosing.net> - 2012-09-26 12:01 +0200
Re: Article on the future of Python Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-09-26 09:01 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-26 14:28 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-09-26 13:22 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-27 06:13 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 08:11 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-27 14:25 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 12:16 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 17:59 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 14:50 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-29 03:07 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-27 17:45 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 02:49 +1000
Re: Article on the future of Python Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 12:50 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-27 17:58 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-09-27 09:53 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-27 15:32 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2012-09-28 08:06 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 03:22 -0400
Re: Article on the future of Python rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 05:08 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-28 12:54 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-09-28 06:14 -0700
Re: Article on the future of Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-28 16:33 +0000
Re: Article on the future of Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-27 17:47 +0100
Re: Article on the future of Python alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-27 17:59 -0700
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| From | Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 19:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1463.1348701881.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30188 |
On 9/26/2012 8:19 AM, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: > You are always selling the same argument. Because you keep repeating the same insane argument against 3.3. > Py3.3 is the only computer language I'm aware of which > is maltreating Unicode in such a way. You have it backwards. 3.3 fixes maltreatment of unicode, such as also exists in other languages. re will also run better with 3.3. You have not shown any new bugs. Many other languages do not handle extended plane characters properly. > After all, if replacing a Nabla operator in a string take > 10 times more times in Py33 than in Python32, it takes 10 > times more . There is nothing more to say. On the contrary, there is lots more to say. You have picked out the one thing that 3.3 does not do as well and ignored all the things 3.3 does better. I and others have already explained many of them. Included is that fact that 3.3 does one operation 10, 100, 1000,... times faster than 3.2. -- Terry Jan Reedy
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| From | wxjmfauth@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 05:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1426.1348661950.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30158 |
Le mercredi 26 septembre 2012 10:13:58 UTC+2, Terry Reedy a écrit : > On 9/26/2012 2:35 AM, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has > > > been transformed into an "American" product for > > > "American" users. > > > > Python 3.3 is the first version that handles the full unicode character > > set correctly on all platforms. If anything, it will make unicode more > > alive and Python better suited for international applications. > > > > -- > > Terry Jan Reedy Remember the TeX discussion a few days ago? You are always selling the same argument. Py3.3 is the only computer language I'm aware of which is maltreating Unicode in such a way. After all, if replacing a Nabla operator in a string take 10 times more times in Py33 than in Python32, it takes 10 times more . There is nothing more to say. I proposed to make some tests with the characters used by the IMPRIMERIE NATINALE", I can now suggest to make some tests with random texts exceprt form the "Guide du typographe romand". What? Never heard from these? Do not worry too much. The corporates (software producers) and the foundries know these documents. Finally, all in all, it's no a suprise, end users are sticking with these products. I'm not complaining, only disappointed. jmf (Time to go back to TeX)
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 09:34 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1407.1348648503.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30146 |
On 26/09/2012 07:35, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: > > Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has > been transformed into an "American" product for > "American" users. > jmf > Why do you keep repeating this rubbish when you've already been shot to pieces? Don't you know when it's time to make sure that you're safely strapped in and reach for and use the release button for the ejector seat. Further for somebody who is apparently up in the high tech world, why are you using a gmail account and hence sending garbage in more ways than one to mailing lists like this? -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.
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| From | wxjmfauth@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 05:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <04e6e8dd-1549-4792-9bf2-4190b8874925@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #30164 |
Le mercredi 26 septembre 2012 10:35:04 UTC+2, Mark Lawrence a écrit : > On 26/09/2012 07:35, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has > > > been transformed into an "American" product for > > > "American" users. > > > jmf > > > > > > > Why do you keep repeating this rubbish when you've already been shot to > > pieces? Don't you know when it's time to make sure that you're safely > > strapped in and reach for and use the release button for the ejector > > seat. Further for somebody who is apparently up in the high tech world, > > why are you using a gmail account and hence sending garbage in more ways > > than one to mailing lists like this? > > > > -- > > Cheers. > > > > Mark Lawrence. At least when the others are sending a msg containing non asii characters. I see them correctly. When you send such a text, I'm only able to see something like this (your_string): >>> import fourbiunicode >>> for c in your_string: ... fourbiunicode.FrenchNames[c] ... 'LETTRE MINUSCULE LATINE TRÉMA' "POINT D'INTERROGATION RENVERSÉ" 'FRACTION UN DEMI' You have all the elements to reconstruct what is happening. (Notice, I'm not a Unicode illiterate) jmf
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| From | alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 17:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <df99a774-a891-4eb7-b1af-ddf6a98f49c6@s9g2000pbh.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #30186 |
On Sep 26, 10:17 pm, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > Notice, I'm not a Unicode illiterate Any chance you could work on your usenet literacy and fix your double posts?
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| From | Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-27 01:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <k40ali$ar3$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #30250 |
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:14:44 -0700, alex23 wrote: > On Sep 26, 10:17 pm, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: >> Notice, I'm not a Unicode illiterate > > Any chance you could work on your usenet literacy and fix your double > posts? I have a better idea: Consign him to the same bin as Dwight Hutto and Dihedral.
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| From | wxjmfauth@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 05:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1425.1348661878.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30164 |
Le mercredi 26 septembre 2012 10:35:04 UTC+2, Mark Lawrence a écrit : > On 26/09/2012 07:35, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has > > > been transformed into an "American" product for > > > "American" users. > > > jmf > > > > > > > Why do you keep repeating this rubbish when you've already been shot to > > pieces? Don't you know when it's time to make sure that you're safely > > strapped in and reach for and use the release button for the ejector > > seat. Further for somebody who is apparently up in the high tech world, > > why are you using a gmail account and hence sending garbage in more ways > > than one to mailing lists like this? > > > > -- > > Cheers. > > > > Mark Lawrence. At least when the others are sending a msg containing non asii characters. I see them correctly. When you send such a text, I'm only able to see something like this (your_string): >>> import fourbiunicode >>> for c in your_string: ... fourbiunicode.FrenchNames[c] ... 'LETTRE MINUSCULE LATINE TRÉMA' "POINT D'INTERROGATION RENVERSÉ" 'FRACTION UN DEMI' You have all the elements to reconstruct what is happening. (Notice, I'm not a Unicode illiterate) jmf
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 09:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1408.1348648801.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30146 |
On 26/09/2012 08:44, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> wrote: >>> wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has >>>> been transformed into an "American" product for >>>> "American" users. >>> >> Well, we can all use american as a standard, or maybe you'd prefer to >> borrow my Latin for Idiots handbook. But then again google has a >> Universal Communicator going, so, does it matter? > > Never in the field of human discussion has there been so much reason > for so many to plonk so few. > > ChrisA > I tried to make a play on that some days ago and failed dismally. Thanks for putting me out of my misery :) -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 18:44 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1409.1348649057.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30146 |
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Further for somebody who is apparently up in the high tech world, why are > you using a gmail account and hence sending garbage in more ways than one to > mailing lists like this? I use gmail too, largely because I prefer to keep mailing list posts off my primary account. ChrisA
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| From | Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 04:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1410.1348649138.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30146 |
> > Why do you keep repeating this rubbish when you've already been shot to > pieces? I still feel intact, so whatever little shards of pain you intended to emit were lost on my ego. Don't you know when it's time to make sure that you're safely > strapped in and reach for and use the release button for the ejector seat. You ain't shot down shit, but your own reputation. Look at the full conversation. > Further for somebody who is apparently up in the high tech world, why are > you using a gmail account and hence sending garbage in more ways than one to > mailing lists like this? Um, using gmail instead of reinventing the wheel is now appropriate to you? -- Best Regards, David Hutto CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com
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| From | Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 04:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1411.1348649252.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30146 |
> I tried to make a play on that some days ago and failed dismally. That's the fucking understatement of the year. Thanks for > putting me out of my misery :) -- No prob. Best Regards, David Hutto CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 10:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1413.1348650049.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30146 |
On 26/09/2012 09:47, Dwight Hutto wrote: >> I tried to make a play on that some days ago and failed dismally. > > That's the fucking understatement of the year. > You remind me of the opening to the song Plaistow Patricia by Ian Dury and the Blockheads. > Thanks for >> putting me out of my misery :) -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2012-09-27 00:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5063a070$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #30170 |
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:01:11 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > You remind me of the opening to the song Plaistow Patricia by Ian Dury > and the Blockheads. While I always appreciate a good reference to Ian Dury, please stop feeding D.H.'s ego by responding to his taunts. -- Steven
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-09-27 02:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1469.1348708189.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30257 |
On 27/09/2012 01:40, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:01:11 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >> You remind me of the opening to the song Plaistow Patricia by Ian Dury >> and the Blockheads. > > While I always appreciate a good reference to Ian Dury, please stop > feeding D.H.'s ego by responding to his taunts. > > Good point as he's had so much rope that he's hung himself several times over. Thanks for helping me get my feet back on the ground. -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.
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| From | Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 05:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1415.1348650590.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30146 |
>> That's the fucking understatement of the year. >> > > You remind me of the opening to the song Plaistow Patricia by Ian Dury and > the Blockheads. Make a modern day/mainstream reference, and maybe someone will get it. > > >> Thanks for >>> >>> putting me out of my misery :) Again, no problem...anytime buddy. -- Best Regards, David Hutto CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com
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| From | "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@tysdomain.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 07:31 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1432.1348666331.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30146 |
On 9/26/2012 2:11 AM, Dwight Hutto wrote: >>> Well, we can all use american as a standard, or maybe you'd prefer to >>> borrow my Latin for Idiots handbook. But then again google has a >>> Universal Communicator going, so, does it matter? >> Never in the field of human discussion has there been so much reason >> for so many to plonk so few. >> > "Plonk" it if you want. Your homosexual ideologies have no effect on > me. Butt, back to the discussion, there are quite a few ways to > encode, as well as translate code. You remind me of a little kid. When anything doesn't go your way, we revert to homosexual comments (who said anything about homosexual anyway), and you keep bringing up this whole nut hair deal. I think it's you leaning that way buddy, especially since "most of us on here are guys." > Plonk it in your mouth, and let the nut hairs tickle your throat. > Take your trash somewhere else. You've provided nothing in terms of good feedback or responses, and I doubt you will provide more than insults. PS: Anyone know if rantingrik had relatives? ;) >> ChrisA >> -- >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > > -- Take care, Ty http://tds-solutions.net The aspen project: a barebones light-weight mud engine: http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 14:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1433.1348666985.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30146 |
On 26/09/2012 14:31, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > PS: Anyone know if rantingrik had relatives? ;) > I say steady on old chap that's just not cricket. I've been known to have a go at rr in the past for good reasons, but when he gets stuck into Tkinter he is an extremely useful contributor. I certainly prefer him to Xah Lee, who's attempts at improving Python documentation were beautifully torn to pieces here, IIRC by Ethan Furman, apologies to him and the actual author if I'm incorrect. -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 23:51 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1435.1348667472.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30146 |
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On 26/09/2012 14:31, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > >> >> PS: Anyone know if rantingrik had relatives? ;) >> > > I say steady on old chap that's just not cricket. I've been known to have a > go at rr in the past for good reasons, but when he gets stuck into Tkinter > he is an extremely useful contributor. I certainly prefer him to Xah Lee, > who's attempts at improving Python documentation were beautifully torn to > pieces here, IIRC by Ethan Furman, apologies to him and the actual author if > I'm incorrect. You know how people sometimes ask "What sort of idiot do you think I am??!?", thus falling foul of the sage advice "Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle" [1]... well, on this list, it makes good sense to ask what sort of troll someone is. We even have Troll Rankings in which there's very definite striations of "useful contributors who sometimes troll", "useless people who nevertheless trigger interesting threads", and "utterly useless flamers". Troll taxonomy is a science we could all benefit from studying... ChrisA [1] eg http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/24/bofh_2008_episode_34/
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| From | Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 09:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1449.1348675882.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30146 |
Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 26/09/2012 14:31, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > >> >> PS: Anyone know if rantingrik had relatives? ;) >> > > I say steady on old chap that's just not cricket. I've been known to > have a go at rr in the past for good reasons, but when he gets stuck > into Tkinter he is an extremely useful contributor. I certainly prefer > him to Xah Lee, who's attempts at improving Python documentation were > beautifully torn to pieces here, IIRC by Ethan Furman, apologies to him > and the actual author if I'm incorrect. I don't think it was me -- my troll tolerance is extremely low; currently there are sixteen in my troll trap. I could easily see it being D'Aprano, though -- he's excellent at shredding ridiculous arguments and even seems to enjoy it. Least ways, I enjoy reading his responses. :) ~Ethan~
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| From | Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> |
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| Date | 2012-09-26 16:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1457.1348691260.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #30146 |
On 9/26/2012 4:45 AM, Dwight Hutto wrote: >> >> Why do you keep repeating this rubbish when you've already been shot to >> pieces? > > I still feel intact, so whatever little shards of pain you intended to > emit were lost on my ego. Uh, Dwight, he was not talking to you. -- Terry Jan Reedy
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