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  Python install Win 7 Problem Joe Hill <JH@nospamever.com> - 2013-04-01 18:02 -0700
    Re: Python install Win 7 Problem rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-04-01 20:36 -0700
    Re: Python install Win 7 Problem David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com> - 2013-04-02 11:44 -0400
      Re: Python install Win 7 Problem Joe Hill <JH@nospamever.com> - 2013-04-02 09:45 -0700
        Re: Python install Win 7 Problem David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com> - 2013-04-02 15:27 -0400
          Re: Python install Win 7 Problem Joe Hill <JH@nospamever.com> - 2013-04-02 13:37 -0700
    Re: Python install Win 7 Problem balasubramanian Achuthan <balasurfs@gmail.com> - 2013-04-02 11:07 -0700
      Re: Python install Win 7 Problem Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2013-04-03 17:51 +0000
        Re: Python install Win 7 Problem Terry Jan Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-04-03 14:33 -0400

#42535 — Python install Win 7 Problem

Python install Win 7 Problem


This is some of what others have experienced attempting to install Python
in Win 7  - I'm attempting to do the same with hopefully fewer detours.


http://www.andrewsturges.com/2012/05/installing-numpy-for-python-3-in.html
It's time to do some scientific computing, which, in the Python world,
means using NumPy. I'm in a Windows 7 (64-bit) environment running Python
3.2.3 (64-bit).

Getting NumPy installed for Python 2 or Python 3 in Ubuntu was easy.
Getting it to work in Windows turned out to be more tricky.
The Short Takeaway

    In a Windows 7 environment (even a 64-bit Windows 7 environment), you
must install the 32-bit version of Python 3. The 64-bit version will not
work with NumPy 1.6. 
    Furthermore, the 32-bit version of Python 3 must be installed 'just
for me', and not 'for everyone on this computer'. 
    Finally, make sure you select the proper NumPy version (for Python
3.2), not the default version from SourceForge (which is for Python 2.6).

In this post I'm assuming you have already installed Python 3 and that
you're running Windows 7. Specifically, I'm running Windows 7
Professional, 64-bit, Service Pack 1. What follows is the whole story of
the troubleshooting, in case it helps out anyone else having the same
issues.
etc.



http://docs.python.org/3.2/install/
More alternatives than an encyclopedia!
See no reference to Win 7.
This is NO help

http://www.python.org/getit/releases/3.2.3/
got
Gzipped source tar ball (3.2.3) (sig), ~ 13 MB
which was a file: 
Python-3.2.3.tgz
Extracted from it - I get:
Python-3.2.3.tar
When I click it - it gives a warning: "The file being opened was extracted
from a zip archive to a temporary folder.  Any changes made to the file
will not automatically be saved in the zip archive, but rather in the
extracted file in the temporary folder."

So??  If I move this file to a temporary empty folder and click it - will
I have all the files?
Any significance?


Further down I see:
"Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.3) [1] (sig) and Visual Studio debug
information files (sig)"

I have an urge to install the installer first, but look in the "Windows
help file (sig)",  provided in the same group - see nothing specific about
Win 7.


I have done my Bing and Google and spent a bunch of time reading about the
problems others have had with what should be a simple task - with this
program that can not install itself.  Is this not rare these days?




I have a Win 7 Ultimate, Intel chips, 12GB of memory - two HDs.
a C: (programs only) and a D: where all my data files reside.
32 or 64 bit - does it even matter?   (Office 2010 runs best on 32bit per
M$)

I'm a total novice - my last program writing was 35+ years ago.  My reason
for wanting Python is purely for fun an recreation.  I used to just love
code writing.

Questions:
1.  is 3.2.3 the correct version for me?  On April 6 I see that additional
releases will become available.  I see value in having the latest stable
programs.  Is any of this for me - I can wait 5 days?

2.  Would it make sense to install Python on the D: drive or will that
just further confuse matters?

3.  Which files do I need?  Which order do they need to be installed?
Where do I get them?

Thanks in advance for any help.
Joe

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#42538

On Apr 2, 6:02 am, Joe Hill <J...@nospamever.com> wrote:
> Python install Win 7 Problem
>
> This is some of what others have experienced attempting to install Python
> in Win 7  - I'm attempting to do the same with hopefully fewer detours.
>
> http://www.andrewsturges.com/2012/05/installing-numpy-for-python-3-in...
> It's time to do some scientific computing, which, in the Python world,
> means using NumPy. I'm in a Windows 7 (64-bit) environment running Python
> 3.2.3 (64-bit).
>
> Getting NumPy installed for Python 2 or Python 3 in Ubuntu was easy.
> Getting it to work in Windows turned out to be more tricky.
> The Short Takeaway
>
>     In a Windows 7 environment (even a 64-bit Windows 7 environment), you
> must install the 32-bit version of Python 3. The 64-bit version will not
> work with NumPy 1.6.

Not claiming I can be of much help. Still...
I dont see in your description, which numpy you used.
Did you use this?
http://www.scipy.org/Download#head-f64942d62faddeb27278a2c735e81ef2a7349db0

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#42586

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On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Joe Hill <JH@nospamever.com> wrote:

> ...
>
>     In a Windows 7 environment (even a 64-bit Windows 7 environment), you
> must install the 32-bit version of Python 3. The 64-bit version will not
> work with NumPy 1.6.
>
1.7 is the current version. I use 32-bit Python myself.

>     Furthermore, the 32-bit version of Python 3 must be installed 'just
> for me', and not 'for everyone on this computer'.
>
Nonsense.

>     Finally, make sure you select the proper NumPy version (for Python
> 3.2), not the default version from SourceForge (which is for Python 2.6).
>
Use
http://sourceforge.net/projects/numpy/files/NumPy/1.7.0/numpy-1.7.0-win32-superpack-python3.2.exe/download

>
> In this post I'm assuming you have already installed Python 3 and that
> you're running Windows 7. Specifically, I'm running Windows 7
> Professional, 64-bit, Service Pack 1. What follows is the whole story of
> the troubleshooting, in case it helps out anyone else having the same
> issues.
> etc.
>
I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium

>
>
> http://docs.python.org/3.2/install/
> More alternatives than an encyclopedia!
> See no reference to Win 7.
> This is NO help
>
I'm not aware of any peculiarities due to use of Win 7 (except it's not
Linux)

>
> http://www.python.org/getit/releases/3.2.3/
> got
> Gzipped source tar ball (3.2.3) (sig), ~ 13 MB
> which was a file:
> Python-3.2.3.tgz
>
Download the Windows executables.

> ...
>
> I'm a total novice - my last program writing was 35+ years ago.  My reason
> for wanting Python is purely for fun an recreation.  I used to just love
> code writing.
>
> Questions:
> 1.  is 3.2.3 the correct version for me?  On April 6 I see that additional
> releases will become available.  I see value in having the latest stable
> programs.  Is any of this for me - I can wait 5 days?
>
3.3.0 is the current version

>
> 2.  Would it make sense to install Python on the D: drive or will that
> just further confuse matters?
>
It shouldn't hurt anything but why would you want to?

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#42588

On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:44:55 -0400, David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Joe Hill <JH@nospamever.com> wrote:
>
>> ...
>>
>>     In a Windows 7 environment (even a 64-bit Windows 7 environment), you
>> must install the 32-bit version of Python 3. The 64-bit version will not
>> work with NumPy 1.6.
>>
>1.7 is the current version. I use 32-bit Python myself.
>
>>     Furthermore, the 32-bit version of Python 3 must be installed 'just
>> for me', and not 'for everyone on this computer'.
>>
>Nonsense.
>
>>     Finally, make sure you select the proper NumPy version (for Python
>> 3.2), not the default version from SourceForge (which is for Python 2.6).
>>
>Use
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/numpy/files/NumPy/1.7.0/numpy-1.7.0-win32-superpack-python3.2.exe/download
>
>>
>> In this post I'm assuming you have already installed Python 3 and that
>> you're running Windows 7. Specifically, I'm running Windows 7
>> Professional, 64-bit, Service Pack 1. What follows is the whole story of
>> the troubleshooting, in case it helps out anyone else having the same
>> issues.
>> etc.
>>
>I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium
>
>>
>>
>> http://docs.python.org/3.2/install/
>> More alternatives than an encyclopedia!
>> See no reference to Win 7.
>> This is NO help
>>
>I'm not aware of any peculiarities due to use of Win 7 (except it's not
>Linux)
>
>>
>> http://www.python.org/getit/releases/3.2.3/
>> got
>> Gzipped source tar ball (3.2.3) (sig), ~ 13 MB
>> which was a file:
>> Python-3.2.3.tgz
>>
>Download the Windows executables.
>
>> ...
>>
>> I'm a total novice - my last program writing was 35+ years ago.  My reason
>> for wanting Python is purely for fun an recreation.  I used to just love
>> code writing.
>>
>> Questions:
>> 1.  is 3.2.3 the correct version for me?  On April 6 I see that additional
>> releases will become available.  I see value in having the latest stable
>> programs.  Is any of this for me - I can wait 5 days?
>>
>3.3.0 is the current version
>
>>
>> 2.  Would it make sense to install Python on the D: drive or will that
>> just further confuse matters?
>>
>It shouldn't hurt anything but why would you want to?


Is "numpy" an option that is needed (guess for math?)?

Assuming 3.3 the current version - what are the "Download the Windows
executables." files?  and in which order must they be installed?

I never claimed to be a mind reader <grin>.

joe

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#42598

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On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Joe Hill <JH@nospamever.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:44:55 -0400, David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com
>
> >Download the Windows executables.
> >
> >3.3.0 is the current version
>
> Is "numpy" an option that is needed (guess for math?)?
>
No, it's not needed to run Python. It can be useful. I only mentioned it
because you did.

>
> Assuming 3.3 the current version - what are the "Download the Windows
> executables." files?  and in which order must they be installed?
>
The 32 bit version is at
http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.3.0/python-3.3.0.msi
The 64 bit version is at
 http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.3.0/python-3.3.0.amd64.msi

Install one or the other. That's it. If you want to install numpy, do it
after you install python.
 [The suggestion to install the Activestate version is reasonable. I've
never used it. Please use a search engine if you decide to look for it.]


> I never claimed to be a mind reader <grin>.
>
>

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#42602

On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:27:22 -0400, David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Joe Hill <JH@nospamever.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:44:55 -0400, David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com
>>
>> >Download the Windows executables.
>> >
>> >3.3.0 is the current version
>>
>> Is "numpy" an option that is needed (guess for math?)?
>>
>No, it's not needed to run Python. It can be useful. I only mentioned it
>because you did.
>
>>
>> Assuming 3.3 the current version - what are the "Download the Windows
>> executables." files?  and in which order must they be installed?
>>
>The 32 bit version is at
>http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.3.0/python-3.3.0.msi
>The 64 bit version is at
> http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.3.0/python-3.3.0.amd64.msi
>
>Install one or the other. That's it. If you want to install numpy, do it
>after you install python.
> [The suggestion to install the Activestate version is reasonable. I've
>never used it. Please use a search engine if you decide to look for it.]
>
>
>> I never claimed to be a mind reader <grin>.
>>
>>

Thanks David,
It worked and I now have the 64bit  installed.
Joe

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#42593

Try using Activestate python. The free version would suffice your needs and it comes with a clean install. 

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#42691

On 2013-04-02, balasubramanian Achuthan <balasurfs@gmail.com> wrote:
> Try using Activestate python. The free version would suffice your
> needs and it comes with a clean install.

I have been travelling and have not had time to read this thread in
detail so this may be old hat but on Windows (at work) I simply
install Python(x,y)

https://code.google.com/p/pythonxy/

/Martin

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#42693

On 4/3/2013 1:51 PM, Martin Schöön wrote:
> On 2013-04-02, balasubramanian Achuthan <balasurfs@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Try using Activestate python. The free version would suffice your
>> needs and it comes with a clean install.
>
> I have been travelling and have not had time to read this thread in
> detail so this may be old hat but on Windows (at work) I simply
> install Python(x,y)
>
> https://code.google.com/p/pythonxy/

Only available for 2.x

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