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  Re: Python vs C++ Amirouche Boubekki <amirouche.boubekki@gmail.com> - 2014-08-26 10:12 +0200
    Re: Python vs C++ alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-08-27 15:43 +1000
      Re: Python vs C++ Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-08-27 00:23 -0600
      Re: Python vs C++ Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-08-27 00:33 -0600
      Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'?  [was Python vs C++] "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-08-27 09:50 +0200
        Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-27 09:38 -0700
          Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-27 20:14 +0300
            Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-08-27 10:41 -0700
            Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-28 08:46 +1000
              Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-28 08:31 +0300
                Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-28 15:44 +1000
        Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'?  [was Python vs C++] Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2014-08-27 21:41 +0200
      Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? [was Python vs C++] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-27 18:03 +1000
      Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'?  [was Python vs C++] Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-08-27 07:54 -0400
        Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'?  [was Python vs C++] Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-08-27 10:29 -0700
          hg, git, fossil, ... [was Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? [was Python vs C++]] Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-08-27 11:26 -0700
          Re: hg, git, fossil, ... [was Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? [was Python vs C++]] Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2014-08-27 13:51 -0500
            Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-28 08:58 +0300
              Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-08-28 09:56 -0500
              Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-08-28 11:39 -0400
                Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-28 19:17 +0300
                  Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-08-28 11:32 -0500
                  Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-29 02:38 +1000
                    Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-28 22:37 +0300
                      Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-29 09:08 +1000
                      Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2014-08-29 09:43 +0200
                        Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-29 10:54 +0300
                  Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-08-28 13:40 -0400
                  Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2014-08-29 07:25 +1000
                  Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-08-28 22:41 +0100
                  Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-08-28 20:20 -0600
                    Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-29 08:59 +0300
                      Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-29 17:20 +1000
                        Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-29 10:48 +0300
                  Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-29 12:24 +1000
                    Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-08-28 19:53 -0700
              Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-08-28 19:56 -0600
                Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-29 08:50 +0300
                  Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-29 17:19 +1000
                    Re: hg, git, fossil, ... Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-29 10:43 +0300
          Re: hg, git, fossil, ... [was Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? [was Python vs C++]] Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-08-27 11:58 -0700
          Re: hg, git, fossil, ... [was Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? [was Python vs C++]] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-28 09:07 +1000
      Re: Python vs C++ Amirouche Boubekki <amirouche.boubekki@gmail.com> - 2014-08-27 15:15 +0200
      Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? [was Python vs C++] "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-08-28 15:44 +0200
      Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? [was Python vs C++] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-28 23:58 +1000

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#77156 — Re: hg, git, fossil, ... [was Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? [was Python vs C++]]

On 08/27/2014 11:51 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>
>  Thank God for StackOverflow. :-)

+1 QotW

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#77176 — Re: hg, git, fossil, ... [was Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? [was Python vs C++]]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> wrote:
> The "simple hg commands" are generally not all that different (in my limited
> experience) than the "simple git commands," for some definition of "simple."
> Stuff like clone, init, push, pull, commit, the small number of commands you
> use day in, day out. When you get beyond that simple core, both are
> confusing to me. I think it all boils down to what you use most often. At
> work they settled on git awhile ago, so I'm now comfortable with the basics
> there, though I recently had a rather unpleasant first experience with "git
> rebase." Both hg (almost all of it for me) and git (the stuff I don't
> regularly use) are like Perl: I need to consult the documentation every step
> of the way. Thank God for StackOverflow. :-)

+1. And most importantly: Use source control even though you don't
understand all the ins and outs of the one you're using, because you
can always get help when something goes wrong. I got my family (mostly
non-technical people, or technical people from decades ago - my dad's
been in computing since before I was born, but he doesn't know most of
the modern tools) to use a git repo instead of a shared directory,
basically by giving them very clear and simple instructions: "git pull
--rebase" to see other people's changes, "git add" when you create a
new file, "git commit -a" to record your changes, "git push" to send
the changes to the central server. (Yes, I know git doesn't need a
central server. It's still much simpler to describe it all that way.)
If anything goes wrong, they call me for help. They don't need to
understand about the myriad ways to call on "git log", they don't need
to worry about bisecting, they don't even need to branch/merge... and
git happily runs for them, every single day. The "simple hg/git
commands" will get you through a pretty huge amount of coding.

ChrisA

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2014-08-27 8:23 GMT+02:00 Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>:

> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:43 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 26/08/2014 6:12 PM, Amirouche Boubekki wrote:
> >>
> >> 2014-08-26 6:02 GMT+02:00 Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>>:
> >>
> >>     It would be just as easy or easier in Python, or one could save a
> >>     lot more effort by just using RPG Maker like every other indie RPG
> >>     developer seems to do.
> >>
> >> I don't think there is FLOSS equivalent.
> >
> >
> > There is indeed:
> >
> > http://openrpgmaker.sourceforge.net/
>
> Ugh. There seems to be no public repository, and the only source to be
> found is from release-versioned tarballs, so there's apparently no
> collaboration other than some forums for reporting bugs and requesting
> features. All the work is done by one developer in his spare time, and
> he is currently on hiatus since April. Meanwhile the most recent
> release is February, so it's not like somebody could just pick it up
> and start hacking and expect to merge.
>
> That's only open-source under the most literal of definitions.


Screenshots look good in terms of features.

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#77207 — Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? [was Python vs C++]

"Chris Angelico" <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:CAPTjJmp_JFxTh_L6us30GbOTMbYhw_iMU-PjDGLEVgj2nuTpyg@mail.gmail.com...
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Frank Millman <frank@chagford.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is quite a timely message for me. I am inching closer to releasing a
>> version of my accounting software, and a lot of the above comments apply 
>> to
>> me as well. At present I am the only developer, and my project is not 
>> hosted
>> anywhere, so I have to decide how to make it available, and I am open to
>> suggestions.
>>

[...]

>
> Go public first, and watch what people get confused at - then document
> those parts. If you try to document everything first, you'll spend
> heaps of time and effort on it, and maybe won't even be happy with the
> result.
>

I *think* I have created a project on GitHub and uploaded my software there. 
It is called "AccInABox".

This name probably needs a bit of explanation. "Acc" is an accountant. "Box" 
is the computer. You can set the system up with various rules and 
parameters, and then leave your staff to operate it without supervision. The 
program acts as your accountant, and will control what the staff can and 
cannot do.

At the last count, there are about 10 million things I still have to do 
before it is a working product. But the structure feels quite stable now, 
and you can do a few simple things with it, so I am ready for people to have 
a look and offer feedback.

I don't know GitHub at all, and I don't know what other information you 
need, so please let me know whether it works.

Frank

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#77209 — Re: What is acceptable as 'open-source'? [was Python vs C++]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Frank Millman <frank@chagford.com> wrote:
> I *think* I have created a project on GitHub and uploaded my software there.
> It is called "AccInABox".

https://github.com/FrankMillman/AccInABox

Seems to be all there!

You seem to have a default README.md as well as your README that has
real content in it. If you delete README.md, the other one should
become visible on the main project page. I'll shoot through a PR for
that.

ChrisA

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