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  Re: Moderation and slight change of (de facto) policy Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-04-17 20:27 -0400
    Re: Moderation and slight change of (de facto) policy Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-04-18 11:59 +1000
      Re: Moderation and slight change of (de facto) policy Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-04-18 08:32 +0300
        Re: Moderation and slight change of (de facto) policy Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-04-20 02:15 +1000
          Re: Moderation and slight change of (de facto) policy Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-04-19 21:00 +0300

#107208 — Re: Moderation and slight change of (de facto) policy

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, at 18:08, Matt Ruffalo wrote:
> Hi-
> 
> That seems like a reasonable approach, though I think there *really*
> needs to be an option along the lines of "subscribed to the list for the
> purposes of moderation, but not receiving list messages via email".

There is. I'm on several other (non-python, but still using mailman)
mailing lists like that because they require you to be a subscriber to
post via gmane.

> On 2016-04-17 12:57, Tim Golden wrote:
> > First, a quick summary of the current settings of the list:
> >
> > * Any post from someone who's not subscribed to the list is held for
> > moderation

As an alternative, when you send them through can you put a note on the
bottom saying they're not subscribed, to remind people to CC them in
responses? I think that's why we never get any followup on "newbie
problem" questions (especially the crt dll thing and the modify remove
repair thing). A couple other lists I'm on do this and it works well. I
think most of the people who have objections to CC-ing are annoyed when
they *receive* messages CC'd *to them*, rather than objecting on
principle to doing it in reply to other people who aren't subscribed.

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On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 10:27 am, Random832 wrote:

> As an alternative, when you send them through can you put a note on the
> bottom saying they're not subscribed, to remind people to CC them in
> responses?

That doesn't work so well from Usenet. I can reply via news (which
definitely works), or I can reply via email (which may or may not work),
but it is a pain to reply via *both*.


-- 
Steven

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#107241

Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info>:

> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 10:27 am, Random832 wrote:
>
>> As an alternative, when you send them through can you put a note on
>> the bottom saying they're not subscribed, to remind people to CC them
>> in responses?
>
> That doesn't work so well from Usenet. I can reply via news (which
> definitely works), or I can reply via email (which may or may not
> work), but it is a pain to reply via *both*.

I don't like the Usenet+CC approach, but let's try it.

Did you get the CC, Steven.


Marko

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#107344

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 03:32 pm, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:

> Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info>:
> 
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 10:27 am, Random832 wrote:
>>
>>> As an alternative, when you send them through can you put a note on
>>> the bottom saying they're not subscribed, to remind people to CC them
>>> in responses?
>>
>> That doesn't work so well from Usenet. I can reply via news (which
>> definitely works), or I can reply via email (which may or may not
>> work), but it is a pain to reply via *both*.
> 
> I don't like the Usenet+CC approach, but let's try it.
> 
> Did you get the CC, Steven.

Yes I did. I frequently have people CCing me. But that's not the problem for
me -- as I said above, it's a pain for me to SEND (not receive) via both
email and news.


-- 
Steven

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#107353

Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info>:

> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 03:32 pm, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Did you get the CC, Steven.
>
> Yes I did. I frequently have people CCing me. But that's not the
> problem for me -- as I said above, it's a pain for me to SEND (not
> receive) via both email and news.

GNUS does both at once (if requested).


Marko

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