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  .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Orochi <kartikjagdale11@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 07:55 -0700
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Orochi <kartikjagdale11@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 08:19 -0700
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Jerry Hill <malaclypse2@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 14:11 -0400
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Sturla Molden <sturla.molden@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 20:04 +0000
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Dietmar Schwertberger <maillist@schwertberger.de> - 2014-07-25 23:23 +0200
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 12:40 +1000
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 21:33 -0600
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? TP <wingusr@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 21:13 -0700
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 14:37 +1000
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 09:19 +0200
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 09:13 +0200
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 19:05 +1000
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Dietmar Schwertberger <maillist@schwertberger.de> - 2014-07-26 12:14 +0200
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 20:25 +1000
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 12:33 +0200
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Sturla Molden <sturla.molden@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 10:51 +0000
      Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-26 13:44 +0000
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Dietmar Schwertberger <maillist@schwertberger.de> - 2014-07-26 13:28 +0200
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-07-26 14:40 -0400
      Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2014-07-27 06:49 +0200
        Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2014-07-27 10:10 +0200
          Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2014-07-27 14:24 +0200
            Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2014-07-27 14:42 +0200
              Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2014-07-28 04:33 +0200
        Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-07-27 11:30 -0400
        Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Sturla Molden <sturla.molden@gmail.com> - 2014-07-27 18:32 +0000
        Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-07-27 22:26 -0600
        Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Sturla Molden <sturla.molden@gmail.com> - 2014-07-28 10:14 +0000
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2014-07-27 10:46 -0700
    Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2014-07-27 14:48 -0400
      Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Sturla Molden <sturla.molden@gmail.com> - 2014-07-28 09:59 +0000

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#75267

On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>        The way they package Office doesn't help... Ignoring the
> subscription-based "Office 365" I was at Best Buy a few weeks ago... The
> only local-install version of Office (Home&Office I think) had Word, Excel,
> and PowerPoint.
>
>        How many /home/ users are creating presentations/slide-shows? Drop
> PowerPoint and include Access (which is essentially a GUI builder front-end
> for the Jet RDBM engine) and Publisher (seems a home user would do more
> with invitations, cards, and maybe reports/brochures)!

Access?  For a home user?  That’s insane!  Most home users actually
won’t use Access even if they have it.  It’s pretty complicated,
especially for your average Joe.

And Publisher could work out for a home user, except Word can do the
same, equally well (at least for a home user).  Why would they play
with a more complicated program, when they have a good enough thing in
Word?

Also, home users DO use PowerPoint.  One can make a photo album, for
example.  Or, if you have kids, they might have to create a
presentation for school (as a form of an essay).  PowerPoint is MUCH
more useful for a home user than (a) a user-unfriendly advanced
program; or (b) a more-or-less duplicate of what they have.

On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> The one thing that isn't available with LibreOffice is OneNote, which you
> don't seem to be able to get separately, and doesn't seem to have any
> documentation (ie 3rd party books on it). But there is Evernote.

OneNote is actually available for free: http://www.onenote.com/
(though Evernote is superior)

-- 
Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <http://chriswarrick.com/>
PGP: 5EAAEA16
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#75269

On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:10:44 +0200, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
<kwpolska@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> The one thing that isn't available with LibreOffice is OneNote, which you
>> don't seem to be able to get separately, and doesn't seem to have any
>> documentation (ie 3rd party books on it). But there is Evernote.
>
>OneNote is actually available for free: http://www.onenote.com/
>(though Evernote is superior)

That's interresting. 

The main reason I use Evernote is that I found a book for it, and couln't find
one for OneNote. 

OneNote does tables better than Evernote. 


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#75270

On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> The main reason I use Evernote is that I found a book for it, and couln't find
> one for OneNote.

Both are actually self-explanatory.  You should not need a book to use
either, just an ability to read on-screen prompts and instruction.

-- 
Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <http://chriswarrick.com/>
PGP: 5EAAEA16
stop html mail | always bottom-post | only UTF-8 makes sense

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#75293

On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:42:49 +0200, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
<kwpolska@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> The main reason I use Evernote is that I found a book for it, and couln't find
>> one for OneNote.
>
>Both are actually self-explanatory.  You should not need a book to use
>either, just an ability to read on-screen prompts and instruction.

Getting information in is easy enough, getting it out again is the problem,. 


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#75271

On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:10:44 +0200, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
<kwpolska@gmail.com> declaimed the following:


>Access?  For a home user?  That’s insane!  Most home users actually
>won’t use Access even if they have it.  It’s pretty complicated,
>especially for your average Joe.
>
	Even though it is a natural fit for what many force Excel into being...
a table of identical records with no real computation.

>And Publisher could work out for a home user, except Word can do the
>same, equally well (at least for a home user).  Why would they play
>with a more complicated program, when they have a good enough thing in
>Word?
>
	Maybe Word /now/... but not back in the days of Office 97. Granted,
back then Publisher (which WAS included in one of the smaller Office
packages) wasn't suited for anything with long text -- it was great for one
to five page pamphlets or brochures, or Yard Sale signs. I suspect I was
spoiled by the software I'd been using on my Amiga (Professional Page, and
later PageStream)

	I'll admit I don't use Publisher as much as I used to (since I'm no
longer in a gaming group, there's less need for character sheets,
histories, etc.). M$ doesn't help in that Publisher gets practically no
documentation. Even the O'Reilly Office 2013 "green book" gives it a mere
28-page chapter -- even One Note got more pages (29)! PowerPoint was given
five whole chapters, and Access received four (Granted, I bought the Access
2013 specific green book too).
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#75283

Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> wrote:

> And Publisher could work out for a home user, except Word can do the
> same, equally well (at least for a home user).  Why would they play
> with a more complicated program, when they have a good enough thing in
> Word?

Actually, Apple Pages is much better for this very reason, but
unfortunately not available on Windows.

 
> Also, home users DO use PowerPoint.  One can make a photo album, for
> example.  Or, if you have kids, they might have to create a
> presentation for school (as a form of an essay).  PowerPoint is MUCH
> more useful for a home user than (a) a user-unfriendly advanced
> program; or (b) a more-or-less duplicate of what they have.

Again, Apple Keynote is much better suited (even for professional users).


Sturla

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#75296

On 07/27/2014 12:32 PM, Sturla Molden wrote:
> Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> And Publisher could work out for a home user, except Word can do the
>> same, equally well (at least for a home user).  Why would they play
>> with a more complicated program, when they have a good enough thing in
>> Word?
> 
> Actually, Apple Pages is much better for this very reason, but
> unfortunately not available on Windows.

Pages '09 was the last good version.  The latest version is rubbish.
Lots of removed features, crappy ui.  I think they took the stripped
down ipad version and tried to make the new desktop version.

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#75309

Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pages '09 was the last good version.  The latest version is rubbish.
> Lots of removed features, crappy ui.  I think they took the stripped
> down ipad version and tried to make the new desktop version.

I think Apple has realized the mistake, because Pages is gradually
improving and removed features are coming back.

But even if Pages '09 were better, it is still superior to Word and
Publisher if you need a hybrid text processor and desktop publisher tool. 

An inexpensive alternative to MS Publisher on Mac OSX is iStudio Publisher.

Disclaimer: I still prefer LaTeX for anything but trivial manuscripts.


Sturla

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#75272

On Friday, July 25, 2014 10:55:44 AM UTC-4, Orochi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This Question may sound lame ,but I am searching for .Net Like Gui Builder for Python.
> 
> I tried PyQt Designer' and 'Glade', No doubt its great but it created only interface.
> 
> I have to code all the things in separate file.
> 
> what I was searching for is Visual Studio .Net like Gui builder where you
> 
> drag and drop widgets and just double click on the widget to edit code of that widget.All other formalities of creating a function and class for the main window and widget(e.g Button) is already done.
> 
> 
> 
> So,Is there any Gui App builder like Visual Studio or having features like Visual Studio for Python.

There is Boa Constructor, targeting wxPython, but it hasn't been updated in ~7 years; it can run with Python 2.6.  It's a GUI builder + IDE, and can do quite a bit (it's basically Delphi for Python). Really impressive. I wish it were able to work with 2.7 but there is no community helping it along at this point, and most seem to have let it go the way of the Palm Pilot.

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#75284

On 7/25/14, 10:55 AM, Orochi wrote:
> Hi,
> This Question may sound lame ,but I am searching for .Net Like Gui Builder for Python.
> I tried PyQt Designer' and 'Glade', No doubt its great but it created only interface.
> I have to code all the things in separate file.
> what I was searching for is Visual Studio .Net like Gui builder where you
> drag and drop widgets and just double click on the widget to edit code of that widget.All other formalities of creating a function and class for the main window and widget(e.g Button) is already done.
>
> So,Is there any Gui App builder like Visual Studio or having features like Visual Studio for Python.
>
> Thank You!
>
I'm not sure which GUI framework you use, but Tkinter is so simple to 
code in directly that you don't really need a UI builder. Give that a try.

--Kevin

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com

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#75308

Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure which GUI framework you use, but Tkinter is so simple to 
> code in directly that you don't really need a UI builder. Give that a try.

This is always true for GUI toolkits which use layout managers. A sketchpad
is much more useful. If you can quickly sketch ut how space should be
divided, there is no need for a GUI builder to construct the GUI. 

You need a GUI builder if the GUI is based on absolute positioning and
anchors, such as Delphi, VB and .NET. In this case manual coding of the GUI
will be extremely tedious.

If you try a GUI builder with layout managers (cf. wxFormBuilder) you will
also find that it does not behave as you expect. Most will just find it
annoying. But a GUI builder can be a nice way of avoiding having to
remember (or look up) all property names.

Sturla

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