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The computer that mastered Go

Started bySeymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid>
First post2016-01-29 14:46 -0500
Last post2016-01-31 07:46 -0500
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  The computer that mastered Go Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2016-01-29 14:46 -0500
    Re: The computer that mastered Go mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2016-01-29 20:38 +0000
      Re: The computer that mastered Go Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 14:13 -0800
        Re: The computer that mastered Go mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2016-01-29 22:25 +0000
          Re: The computer that mastered Go Bernardo Sulzbach <mafagafogigante@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 21:07 -0200
        Re: The computer that mastered Go Bernardo Sulzbach <mafagafogigante@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 21:04 -0200
      Re: The computer that mastered Go Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 13:53 -0700
      Re: The computer that mastered Go Bernardo Sulzbach <mafagafogigante@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 11:53 -0200
        Re: The computer that mastered Go Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-01-31 13:57 +0200
      Re: The computer that mastered Go Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-01-31 07:46 -0500

#102243 — The computer that mastered Go

FromSeymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid>
Date2016-01-29 14:46 -0500
SubjectThe computer that mastered Go
Message-ID<gcgnabp31i2733e8miltgl48coppaajn33@4ax.com>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-dKXOlsf98

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#102244

Frommm0fmf <none@mailinator.com>
Date2016-01-29 20:38 +0000
Message-ID<I5Qqy.527511$QP2.284162@fx42.am4>
In reply to#102243
On 29/01/2016 19:46, Seymore4Head wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-dKXOlsf98
>

Is it written in Python?

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#102254

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-01-29 14:13 -0800
Message-ID<87oac4qbji.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com>
In reply to#102244
mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> writes:
> Is it written in Python?

One would expect it to be written in Go, but it turns out to be C++ and
Lua :(.

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#102256

Frommm0fmf <none@mailinator.com>
Date2016-01-29 22:25 +0000
Message-ID<6GRqy.480794$Yh.294064@fx36.am4>
In reply to#102254
On 29/01/2016 22:13, Paul Rubin wrote:
> mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> writes:
>> Is it written in Python?
>
> One would expect it to be written in Go, but it turns out to be C++ and
> Lua :(.
>

Why did he post it in comp.lang.python then?

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#102262

FromBernardo Sulzbach <mafagafogigante@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-29 21:07 -0200
Message-ID<mailman.103.1454108896.2338.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#102256
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:25 PM, mm0fmf via Python-list
<python-list@python.org> wrote:
>
> Why did he post it in comp.lang.python then?
>

I don't know. I must say that it is a pretty good video, though. Much
more interesting than the average "How to install Python? What have
you tried? Asking here." that goes on every now and then.

Ultimately, I do agree with you that this is OT, even if I don't mind it.

-- 
Bernardo Sulzbach

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#102261

FromBernardo Sulzbach <mafagafogigante@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-29 21:04 -0200
Message-ID<mailman.102.1454108706.2338.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#102254
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> One would expect it to be written in Go, but it turns out to be C++ and
> Lua :(.

I can only contribute with my sadness and disappointment. =(

-- 
Bernardo Sulzbach

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#102297

FromIan Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-29 13:53 -0700
Message-ID<mailman.123.1454157425.2338.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#102244
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 1:38 PM, mm0fmf via Python-list
<python-list@python.org> wrote:
> On 29/01/2016 19:46, Seymore4Head wrote:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-dKXOlsf98
>>
>
> Is it written in Python?

Given the game, and the fact that it's Google, I would be very
disappointed if it's not written in Go.

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#102346

FromBernardo Sulzbach <mafagafogigante@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-30 11:53 -0200
Message-ID<mailman.159.1454239705.2338.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#102244
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Given the game, and the fact that it's Google, I would be very
> disappointed if it's not written in Go.
>

Then be disappointed. The AI field seems to have strong feelings for
Lua. However using Go instead of C++ would have promoted their baby a
little.

-- 
Bernardo Sulzbach

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#102348

FromMarko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Date2016-01-31 13:57 +0200
Message-ID<87si1ex8pq.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>
In reply to#102346
Bernardo Sulzbach <mafagafogigante@gmail.com>:

> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Given the game, and the fact that it's Google, I would be very
>> disappointed if it's not written in Go.
>
> Then be disappointed. The AI field seems to have strong feelings for
> Lua. However using Go instead of C++ would have promoted their baby a
> little.

Lua is a fun little language.

Go gets a nod for some interesting ideas.

C++ has all but collapsed under its own weight, but has some expressive
advantages over C.

None of those languages gets me excited, though.

Somebody once asked the question, What if you were stranded on a desert
island and could bring an unlimited supply of one food item, which food
item would that be? And the answer, supposedly, was: strawberry ice
cream. Apparently it has the most balanced distribution of nutrients for
survival.

Now what if you were stranded on a desert island and could bring only
one programming language with you? I think Python is a great candidate
(even if there are other good contenders). It really provides a
well-balanced diet to most programming tasks.

Philosophically, Scheme gets me excited, and the down-to-earth nature of
plain old C is hard to beat.


Marko

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#102353

FromTerry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Date2016-01-31 07:46 -0500
Message-ID<mailman.165.1454244396.2338.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#102244
On 1/30/2016 8:53 AM, Bernardo Sulzbach wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Given the game, and the fact that it's Google, I would be very
>> disappointed if it's not written in Go.
>>
>
> Then be disappointed. The AI field seems to have strong feelings for
> Lua. However using Go instead of C++ would have promoted their baby a
> little.

Google acquired DeepMind 2 years ago (for a reported $400 million). 
DeepMind began as an independent company at least 2 years before.  One 
of the founders wrote Theme Park in the 1990s with an innovative park 
visitor AI.  DeepMind itself first developed a generalized game AI to 
play Atari 2600 games.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbsqaJwpu6A
gives a better idea of what they are about.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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