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  Further evidence that Python may be the best language forever Malcolm McCrimmon <saturnhs@gmail.com> - 2013-01-28 14:46 -0800
    Re: Further evidence that Python may be the best language forever Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-01-28 18:15 -0700
    Re: Further evidence that Python may be the best language forever Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2013-01-29 07:59 +0100
    Re: Further evidence that Python may be the best language forever Michael Poeltl <michael.poeltl@univie.ac.at> - 2013-01-29 11:31 +0100
      Re: Further evidence that Python may be the best language forever Malcolm McCrimmon <saturnhs@gmail.com> - 2013-01-29 09:37 -0800
      Re: Further evidence that Python may be the best language forever Malcolm McCrimmon <saturnhs@gmail.com> - 2013-01-29 09:37 -0800

#37845 — Further evidence that Python may be the best language forever

My company recently hosted a programming competition for schools across the country.  One team made it to the finals using the Python client, one of the four default clients provided (I wrote it).  Most of the other teams were using Java or C#.  Guess which team won?

http://www.windward.net/codewar/2013_01/finals.html

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#37847

On 01/28/2013 03:46 PM, Malcolm McCrimmon wrote:
> My company recently hosted a programming competition for schools
> across the country.  One team made it to the finals using the Python
> client, one of the four default clients provided (I wrote it).  Most
> of the other teams were using Java or C#.  Guess which team won?
> 
> http://www.windward.net/codewar/2013_01/finals.html

What language was the web page hosted in?  It comes up completely blank
for me. :)

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#37854

Michael Torrie, 29.01.2013 02:15:
> On 01/28/2013 03:46 PM, Malcolm McCrimmon wrote:
>> My company recently hosted a programming competition for schools
>> across the country.  One team made it to the finals using the Python
>> client, one of the four default clients provided (I wrote it).  Most
>> of the other teams were using Java or C#.  Guess which team won?
>>
>> http://www.windward.net/codewar/2013_01/finals.html

We did a similar (although way smaller) contest once at a university. The
task was to write a network simulator. We had a C team, a Java team and a
Python team, four people each. The Java and C people knew their language,
the Python team just started learning it.

The C team ended up getting totally lost and failed. The Java team got most
things working ok and passed. The Python team got everything working, but
additionally implemented a web interface for the simulator that monitored
and visualised its current state. They said it helped them with debugging.


> What language was the web page hosted in?  It comes up completely blank
> for me. :)

Yep, same here. Hidden behind a flash wall, it seems.

Stefan

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#37857

hi Stefan,

* Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> [2013-01-29 08:00]:
> Michael Torrie, 29.01.2013 02:15:
> > On 01/28/2013 03:46 PM, Malcolm McCrimmon wrote:
> >> My company recently hosted a programming competition for schools
> >> across the country.  One team made it to the finals using the Python
> >> client, one of the four default clients provided (I wrote it).  Most
> >> of the other teams were using Java or C#.  Guess which team won?
> >>
> >> http://www.windward.net/codewar/2013_01/finals.html
> 
> We did a similar (although way smaller) contest once at a university. The
> task was to write a network simulator. We had a C team, a Java team and a
> Python team, four people each. The Java and C people knew their language,
> the Python team just started learning it.
> 
> The C team ended up getting totally lost and failed. The Java team got most
> things working ok and passed. The Python team got everything working, but
> additionally implemented a web interface for the simulator that monitored
> and visualised its current state. They said it helped them with debugging.
quite interesting!
I'd liked to see the code
is it available for 'download'?

thx
Michael
> 
> 
> > What language was the web page hosted in?  It comes up completely blank
> > for me. :)
> 
> Yep, same here. Hidden behind a flash wall, it seems.
> 
> Stefan
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

-- 
Michael Poeltl
Computational Materials Physics      voice: +43-1-4277-51409
Univ. Wien, Sensengasse 8/12         fax:   +43-1-4277-9514 (or 9513) 
A-1090 Wien, AUSTRIA   cmp.mpi.univie.ac.at 
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#37891

Sure!  I don't think we've publicly posted the teams' implementations, but the original client code is all up here--http://www.windward.net/codewar/2013_01/windwardopolis.php

The issue with the original link may be if you're running Firefox--it's a Vimeo video, and I know they have some ongoing issues with Firefox that prevent their videos from displaying or playing back.

On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:31:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Poeltl wrote:
> hi Stefan,
> 
> 
> 
> * Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> [2013-01-29 08:00]:
> 
> > Michael Torrie, 29.01.2013 02:15:
> 
> > > On 01/28/2013 03:46 PM, Malcolm McCrimmon wrote:
> 
> > >> My company recently hosted a programming competition for schools
> 
> > >> across the country.  One team made it to the finals using the Python
> 
> > >> client, one of the four default clients provided (I wrote it).  Most
> 
> > >> of the other teams were using Java or C#.  Guess which team won?
> 
> > >>
> 
> > >> http://www.windward.net/codewar/2013_01/finals.html
> 
> > 
> 
> > We did a similar (although way smaller) contest once at a university. The
> 
> > task was to write a network simulator. We had a C team, a Java team and a
> 
> > Python team, four people each. The Java and C people knew their language,
> 
> > the Python team just started learning it.
> 
> > 
> 
> > The C team ended up getting totally lost and failed. The Java team got most
> 
> > things working ok and passed. The Python team got everything working, but
> 
> > additionally implemented a web interface for the simulator that monitored
> 
> > and visualised its current state. They said it helped them with debugging.
> 
> quite interesting!
> 
> I'd liked to see the code
> 
> is it available for 'download'?
> 
> 
> 
> thx
> 
> Michael
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > > What language was the web page hosted in?  It comes up completely blank
> 
> > > for me. :)
> 
> > 
> 
> > Yep, same here. Hidden behind a flash wall, it seems.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Stefan
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > -- 
> 
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael Poeltl
> 
> Computational Materials Physics      voice: +43-1-4277-51409
> 
> Univ. Wien, Sensengasse 8/12         fax:   +43-1-4277-9514 (or 9513) 
> 
> A-1090 Wien, AUSTRIA   cmp.mpi.univie.ac.at 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> slackware-13.37 | vim-7.3 | python-3.2.3 | mutt-1.5.21 | elinks-0.12
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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#37892

Sure!  I don't think we've publicly posted the teams' implementations, but the original client code is all up here--http://www.windward.net/codewar/2013_01/windwardopolis.php

The issue with the original link may be if you're running Firefox--it's a Vimeo video, and I know they have some ongoing issues with Firefox that prevent their videos from displaying or playing back.

On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:31:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Poeltl wrote:
> hi Stefan,
> 
> 
> 
> * Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> [2013-01-29 08:00]:
> 
> > Michael Torrie, 29.01.2013 02:15:
> 
> > > On 01/28/2013 03:46 PM, Malcolm McCrimmon wrote:
> 
> > >> My company recently hosted a programming competition for schools
> 
> > >> across the country.  One team made it to the finals using the Python
> 
> > >> client, one of the four default clients provided (I wrote it).  Most
> 
> > >> of the other teams were using Java or C#.  Guess which team won?
> 
> > >>
> 
> > >> http://www.windward.net/codewar/2013_01/finals.html
> 
> > 
> 
> > We did a similar (although way smaller) contest once at a university. The
> 
> > task was to write a network simulator. We had a C team, a Java team and a
> 
> > Python team, four people each. The Java and C people knew their language,
> 
> > the Python team just started learning it.
> 
> > 
> 
> > The C team ended up getting totally lost and failed. The Java team got most
> 
> > things working ok and passed. The Python team got everything working, but
> 
> > additionally implemented a web interface for the simulator that monitored
> 
> > and visualised its current state. They said it helped them with debugging.
> 
> quite interesting!
> 
> I'd liked to see the code
> 
> is it available for 'download'?
> 
> 
> 
> thx
> 
> Michael
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > > What language was the web page hosted in?  It comes up completely blank
> 
> > > for me. :)
> 
> > 
> 
> > Yep, same here. Hidden behind a flash wall, it seems.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Stefan
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > -- 
> 
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael Poeltl
> 
> Computational Materials Physics      voice: +43-1-4277-51409
> 
> Univ. Wien, Sensengasse 8/12         fax:   +43-1-4277-9514 (or 9513) 
> 
> A-1090 Wien, AUSTRIA   cmp.mpi.univie.ac.at 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> slackware-13.37 | vim-7.3 | python-3.2.3 | mutt-1.5.21 | elinks-0.12
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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