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  For Counter Variable jimbo1qaz <jimmyli1528@gmail.com> - 2012-09-23 09:36 -0700
    Re: For Counter Variable Rodrick Brown <rodrick.brown@gmail.com> - 2012-09-23 12:45 -0400
    Re: For Counter Variable Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 02:52 +1000
    Re: For Counter Variable jimbo1qaz <jimmyli1528@gmail.com> - 2012-09-23 10:45 -0700
      Re: For Counter Variable Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-23 22:54 +0000
        Re: For Counter Variable Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-09-23 18:29 -0500
        Re: For Counter Variable Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-09-23 19:05 -0500
        Re: For Counter Variable Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-24 02:03 +0100
        RE: For Counter Variable "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> - 2012-09-27 17:34 +0000
      Re: For Counter Variable Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-09-24 15:09 -0700
      Re: For Counter Variable Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 18:26 -0400
      Re: For Counter Variable Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 18:58 -0400
        Re: For Counter Variable alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 16:33 -0700
          Re: For Counter Variable Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 19:49 -0400
            Re: For Counter Variable alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 16:58 -0700
              Re: For Counter Variable Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 20:17 -0400
                Re: For Counter Variable alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 17:19 -0700
                  Re: For Counter Variable Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 20:25 -0400
                  Re: For Counter Variable "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@tysdomain.com> - 2012-09-24 18:32 -0600
                  Re: For Counter Variable Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 20:45 -0400
                  Re: For Counter Variable Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 20:50 -0400
                  Re: For Counter Variable Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-09-24 18:10 -0700
                    Re: For Counter Variable Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 21:32 -0400
                    Re: For Counter Variable Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 17:55 +1000
                  Re: For Counter Variable Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 21:13 -0400
                Re: For Counter Variable Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-09-29 06:41 -0700
                Re: For Counter Variable Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-09-29 06:41 -0700
          Re: For Counter Variable Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 19:50 -0400
      Re: For Counter Variable Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 19:39 -0400
        Re: For Counter Variable alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-09-24 16:48 -0700
        Re: For Counter Variable Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-09-25 07:53 +0200
          Re: For Counter Variable Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-25 07:46 +0000
            Re: For Counter Variable Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-25 08:59 +0100
              Re: For Counter Variable wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-25 02:32 -0700
                Re: For Counter Variable Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-25 10:46 +0100
                Re: For Counter Variable Chris Rebert <clp2@rebertia.com> - 2012-09-25 02:53 -0700
                Re: For Counter Variable Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-25 11:16 +0100
                  Re: For Counter Variable Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-25 14:19 +0000
                    Re: For Counter Variable Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-26 00:38 +1000
                Re: For Counter Variable Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-09-25 11:54 -0400
              Re: For Counter Variable wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-09-25 02:32 -0700
            (non sequitur) Re: For Counter Variable Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-09-25 11:51 -0400
          Re: For Counter Variable Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-09-25 05:57 -0500
          Re: For Counter Variable Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-25 12:20 +0100

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#30052

I wrote my first program on a PDP-8. I discovered Python
at release 1.5.?

Now years later... I find Python more and more unusable.

As an exemple related to this topic, which summarizes a
little bit the situation. I just opened my interactive
interpreter and produced this:

>>> for i in range(len(s)-1, -1,-1):
...     '{} {}'.format(i, s[i])
...     
'2 c'
'1 b'
'0 a'

I did it so many times with a reverse/enumerate combination,
I'm unable to do it again, I simply do not remember!


One another really annoying aspect of Python, illustrated
in my previous code: ''.format() .
Was it not supposed to be *the* new formating scheme?

I'm toying more and more with the go language. I really
appreciate and rediscover the strictness I learned with
Pascal.

jmf

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#30103 — (non sequitur) Re: For Counter Variable

On 25 Sep 2012 07:46:31 GMT, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:


> 
> It was a humbling lesson to always check what features a programming 
> environment or language offers before reinventing the wheel with four 
> sides.

	Especially since wheels with six sides work so much better (and only
require defining the value of Pi as 3 <G>)

-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
        wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#30063

On 09/25/12 00:53, Thomas Rachel wrote:
> Am 25.09.2012 01:39 schrieb Dwight Hutto:
>> You don't always know all the built-ins, so the builtin is
>> simpler, but knowing how to code it yourself is the priority of
>> learning to code in a higher level language, which should be
>> simpler to the user of python.
> 
> When learning Python, it often happend me to re-inven the wheel.
> But as soon as I saw the presence of something I re-wrote, I
> skipped my re-written version and used the built-in.

As a beginning Pythonista, I found myself doing the same thing.  I
implemented my own CSV parsing until I discovered how easy it was to
do with the built-in library.  I implemented my own option-parsing
until I found optparse/argparse.  I implemented config-files until I
found ConfigFile.

Coming from C where just about *nothing* is in the stdlib and Java &
PHP where only some core functionalities are in the stdlib, to
Python where just the list of modules in the stdlib is humongous, I
have to make http://docs.python.org/library/ my first stop before I
try implementing anything I think might have even a remote
possibility of being there.

-tkc

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#30067

On 25/09/2012 11:57, Tim Chase wrote:

[snip]

>
> Coming from C where just about *nothing* is in the stdlib and Java &
> PHP where only some core functionalities are in the stdlib, to
> Python where just the list of modules in the stdlib is humongous, I
> have to make http://docs.python.org/library/ my first stop before I
> try implementing anything I think might have even a remote
> possibility of being there.
>
> -tkc

I find the above paragraph amusing given the recent discussion about the 
Java singletonMap, i.e. it's someone that is rarely if ever needed but 
core functionalities are missing, how strange.

I think the next port of call after the standard library should be pypi 
followed by the search engine, possibly targetted at sites like github, 
followed by a question here.  I'm not certain about the next step, help 
please.

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence.

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