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| Started by | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2012-09-24 00:14 +0100 |
| Last post | 2012-09-25 00:38 -0400 |
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Java singletonMap in Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-24 00:14 +0100
Re: Java singletonMap in Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-24 02:20 +0000
Re: Java singletonMap in Python Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-24 17:33 +0000
Re: Java singletonMap in Python 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-09-24 12:03 -0700
Re: Java singletonMap in Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-09-24 20:28 +0100
Re: Java singletonMap in Python Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-09-25 00:29 -0400
Re: Java singletonMap in Python Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2012-09-25 00:38 -0400
| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-09-24 00:14 +0100 |
| Subject | Java singletonMap in Python |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1165.1348442059.27098.python-list@python.org> |
Purely for fun I've been porting some code to Python and came across the singletonMap[1]. I'm aware that there are loads of recipes on the web for both singletons e.g.[2] and immutable dictionaries e.g.[3]. I was wondering how to combine any of the recipes to produce the best implementation, where to me best means cleanest and hence most maintainable. I then managed to muddy the waters for myself by recalling the Alex Martelli Borg pattern[4]. Possibly or even probably the latter is irrelevant, but I'm still curious to know how you'd code this beast. First prize for the best solution is a night out with me, no guesses what the second prize is :) [1]http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/Collections.html [2]http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31875/is-there-a-simple-elegant-way-to-define-singletons-in-python [3]http://code.activestate.com/recipes/498072-implementing-an-immutable-dictionary/ [4]http://code.activestate.com/recipes/66531-singleton-we-dont-need-no-stinkin-singleton-the-bo/ -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2012-09-24 02:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <505fc372$0$1612$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #29873 |
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 00:14:23 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > Purely for fun I've been porting some code to Python and came across the > singletonMap[1]. I'm aware that there are loads of recipes on the web > for both singletons e.g.[2] and immutable dictionaries e.g.[3]. I was > wondering how to combine any of the recipes to produce the best > implementation, where to me best means cleanest and hence most > maintainable. I then managed to muddy the waters for myself by > recalling the Alex Martelli Borg pattern[4]. Possibly or even probably > the latter is irrelevant, but I'm still curious to know how you'd code > this beast. > > First prize for the best solution is a night out with me, no guesses > what the second prize is :) > > [1]http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/ Collections.html Copied from that page: "static Map singletonMap(Object key, Object value) Returns an immutable map, mapping only the specified key to the specified value." I don't see the point of this. It takes a single key, with a single value, and is immutable so you can't change it or add new keys. What's the point? Why bother storing the key:value pair in a data structure, then look up the same data structure to get the same value every time? # Pseudo-code d = singletonMap(key, calculate(key)) # later: value = d[key] # there's only one key this could be process(value) Why not just store the value, instead of key, value and mapping? value = calculate(key) # later process(value) -- Steven
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| From | Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-09-24 17:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA0D8BCC3B9239duncanbooth@127.0.0.1> |
| In reply to | #29883 |
Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote: > On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 00:14:23 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >> Purely for fun I've been porting some code to Python and came across >> the singletonMap[1]. I'm aware that there are loads of recipes on >> the web for both singletons e.g.[2] and immutable dictionaries >> e.g.[3]. I was wondering how to combine any of the recipes to >> produce the best implementation, where to me best means cleanest and >> hence most maintainable. I then managed to muddy the waters for >> myself by recalling the Alex Martelli Borg pattern[4]. Possibly or >> even probably the latter is irrelevant, but I'm still curious to know >> how you'd code this beast. >> >> First prize for the best solution is a night out with me, no guesses >> what the second prize is :) >> >> [1]http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/ > Collections.html > > Copied from that page: > > "static Map singletonMap(Object key, Object value) > Returns an immutable map, mapping only the specified key to the > specified value." > > I don't see the point of this. It takes a single key, with a single > value, and is immutable so you can't change it or add new keys. What's > the point? Why bother storing the key:value pair in a data structure, > then look up the same data structure to get the same value every time? > > # Pseudo-code > d = singletonMap(key, calculate(key)) > # later: > value = d[key] # there's only one key this could be > process(value) > > > Why not just store the value, instead of key, value and mapping? > > value = calculate(key) > # later > process(value) > > > Google is your friend. Searching for "java singletonMap" gives this as the second hit: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7125536/when-would-i-use-java-collections-singletonmap-method The answers seem to be that it's for all those cases in Java where you have a method that takes a map as an argument and you want to pass in a map with a single kep/value pair. In that case it lets you replace 3 lines of Java with 1. e.g. from the comments: "If you have a simple select statement like "select foo from bar where id = :barId" then you would need a parameter map with a single key-value pair, barId=123. That's a great place to use singletonMap()" Of course in Python you just use a dict literal in that case so it's pointless. -- Duncan Booth http://kupuguy.blogspot.com
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| From | 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-24 12:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5a943617-2f38-447e-9bb4-c31166f44d0e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29916 |
Duncan Booth於 2012年9月25日星期二UTC+8上午1時33分31秒寫道: > Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 00:14:23 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > > > > >> Purely for fun I've been porting some code to Python and came across > > >> the singletonMap[1]. I'm aware that there are loads of recipes on > > >> the web for both singletons e.g.[2] and immutable dictionaries > > >> e.g.[3]. I was wondering how to combine any of the recipes to > > >> produce the best implementation, where to me best means cleanest and > > >> hence most maintainable. I then managed to muddy the waters for > > >> myself by recalling the Alex Martelli Borg pattern[4]. Possibly or > > >> even probably the latter is irrelevant, but I'm still curious to know > > >> how you'd code this beast. > > >> > > >> First prize for the best solution is a night out with me, no guesses > > >> what the second prize is :) > > >> > > >> [1]http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/ > > > Collections.html > > > > > > Copied from that page: > > > > > > "static Map singletonMap(Object key, Object value) > > > Returns an immutable map, mapping only the specified key to the > > > specified value." > > > > > > I don't see the point of this. It takes a single key, with a single > > > value, and is immutable so you can't change it or add new keys. What's > > > the point? Why bother storing the key:value pair in a data structure, > > > then look up the same data structure to get the same value every time? > > > > > > # Pseudo-code > > > d = singletonMap(key, calculate(key)) > > > # later: > > > value = d[key] # there's only one key this could be > > > process(value) > > > > > > > > > Why not just store the value, instead of key, value and mapping? > > > > > > value = calculate(key) > > > # later > > > process(value) > > > > > > > > > > > Google is your friend. Searching for "java singletonMap" gives this as > > the second hit: > > > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7125536/when-would-i-use-java-collections-singletonmap-method > > > > The answers seem to be that it's for all those cases in Java where you have a > > method that takes a map as an argument and you want to pass in a map with a single > > kep/value pair. In that case it lets you replace 3 lines of Java with 1. > > > > e.g. from the comments: > > "If you have a simple select statement like "select foo from bar where id = :barId" > > then you would need a parameter map with a single key-value pair, barId=123. > > That's a great place to use singletonMap()" > > > > Of course in Python you just use a dict literal in that case so it's pointless. > > > > -- > > Duncan Booth http://kupuguy.blogspot.com Cheers to those who are programmers that really love authoring in the high level one with tools to translate into other computer languages, and also collecting the upgrade fees from clients.
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-09-24 20:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1203.1348514868.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #29916 |
On 24/09/2012 18:33, Duncan Booth wrote: > Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote: > >> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 00:14:23 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> >>> Purely for fun I've been porting some code to Python and came across >>> the singletonMap[1]. I'm aware that there are loads of recipes on >>> the web for both singletons e.g.[2] and immutable dictionaries >>> e.g.[3]. I was wondering how to combine any of the recipes to >>> produce the best implementation, where to me best means cleanest and >>> hence most maintainable. I then managed to muddy the waters for >>> myself by recalling the Alex Martelli Borg pattern[4]. Possibly or >>> even probably the latter is irrelevant, but I'm still curious to know >>> how you'd code this beast. >>> >>> First prize for the best solution is a night out with me, no guesses >>> what the second prize is :) >>> >>> [1]http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/ >> Collections.html >> >> Copied from that page: >> >> "static Map singletonMap(Object key, Object value) >> Returns an immutable map, mapping only the specified key to the >> specified value." >> >> I don't see the point of this. It takes a single key, with a single >> value, and is immutable so you can't change it or add new keys. What's >> the point? Why bother storing the key:value pair in a data structure, >> then look up the same data structure to get the same value every time? >> >> # Pseudo-code >> d = singletonMap(key, calculate(key)) >> # later: >> value = d[key] # there's only one key this could be >> process(value) >> >> >> Why not just store the value, instead of key, value and mapping? >> >> value = calculate(key) >> # later >> process(value) >> >> >> > Google is your friend. Searching for "java singletonMap" gives this as > the second hit: > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7125536/when-would-i-use-java-collections-singletonmap-method > > The answers seem to be that it's for all those cases in Java where you have a > method that takes a map as an argument and you want to pass in a map with a single > kep/value pair. In that case it lets you replace 3 lines of Java with 1. > > e.g. from the comments: > "If you have a simple select statement like "select foo from bar where id = :barId" > then you would need a parameter map with a single key-value pair, barId=123. > That's a great place to use singletonMap()" > > Of course in Python you just use a dict literal in that case so it's pointless. > Thank goodness for that, I'd assumed that I'd missed something blatantly obvious. There are two chances of something like this getting into the standard library, zero or none. I think in a way that's a great pity as I'm sure that the Python devs would enjoy supporting the little feller with code such as this http://tinyurl.com/9v7d7ld :) -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.
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| From | Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-25 00:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1268.1348547375.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #29916 |
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:28:14 +0100, Mark Lawrence
<breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:
>
> Thank goodness for that, I'd assumed that I'd missed something blatantly
> obvious. There are two chances of something like this getting into the
> standard library, zero or none. I think in a way that's a great pity as
> I'm sure that the Python devs would enjoy supporting the little feller
> with code such as this http://tinyurl.com/9v7d7ld :)
Oh, the chance /might/ be a bit higher... On par with winning the
jackpot in one of those multi-state lotteries (because you'd have to
donate the entire jackpot to Python.org to persuade them to add a "do
nothing" package <G>)
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
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| From | Dwight Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-09-25 00:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.1269.1348547907.27098.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #29916 |
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:29 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:28:14 +0100, Mark Lawrence > <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> declaimed the following in > gmane.comp.python.general: > >> >> Thank goodness for that, I'd assumed that I'd missed something blatantly >> obvious. There are two chances of something like this getting into the >> standard library, zero or none. I think in a way that's a great pity as >> I'm sure that the Python devs would enjoy supporting the little feller >> with code such as this http://tinyurl.com/9v7d7ld :) > > Oh, the chance /might/ be a bit higher... On par with winning the > jackpot in one of those multi-state lotteries (because you'd have to > donate the entire jackpot to Python.org to persuade them to add a "do > nothing" package <G>) It's called import time time.sleep(x) -- Best Regards, David Hutto CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com
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