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| Started by | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| First post | 2011-08-08 00:04 +0000 |
| Last post | 2011-08-17 23:10 +0100 |
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Wait for a keypress before continuing? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2011-08-08 00:04 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-08 10:27 +1000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2011-08-08 02:44 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Gelonida N <gelonida@gmail.com> - 2011-08-08 09:41 +0200
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2011-08-16 18:42 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2011-08-16 18:48 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2011-08-16 20:16 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2011-08-16 14:50 -0700
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2011-08-16 21:59 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Jerry Hill <malaclypse2@gmail.com> - 2011-08-16 20:11 -0400
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2011-08-17 03:52 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-08-17 05:06 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2011-08-17 05:49 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-08-17 06:12 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-17 08:19 +0100
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2011-08-17 07:23 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-17 18:28 +1000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-08-17 16:33 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-08-17 10:37 -0700
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-08-17 06:21 -0700
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2011-08-21 19:02 -0700
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2011-08-16 23:46 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? peter <peter.mosley@talk21.com> - 2011-08-17 01:03 -0700
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> - 2011-08-17 16:16 +0200
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-18 02:36 +1000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? peter <peter.mosley@talk21.com> - 2011-08-18 01:24 -0700
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-08-18 09:50 -0700
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-08-18 18:58 +0100
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-08-17 16:33 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-08-17 13:02 -0400
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-08-17 17:05 +0000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-18 04:29 +1000
Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-17 23:10 +0100
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-08 00:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Wait for a keypress before continuing? |
| Message-ID | <4e3f2827$0$5826$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com> |
My program does not need a prompt, it just needs to wait for any
key to be pressed before it continues. This is in Windows.
char=0
while not char:
char=msvcrt.getch()
That doesn't delay anything here.
while 1:
char=msvcrt.getch()
break
That appears to put my program into an endless loop.
while msvcrt.kbhit():
sleep(4)
msvcrt.getch()
msvcrt.getch()
How can that not delay anything and then instantly get past the getch()?
char=0
while msvcrt.kbhit():
sleep(4)
msvcrt.getch()
while not char:
char=msvcrt.getch()
That doesn't delay anything.
Something seriously wrong with my system?
Thanks.
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2011-08-08 10:27 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <4e3f2d90$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #11017 |
John Doe wrote: > My program does not need a prompt, it just needs to wait for any > key to be pressed before it continues. This is in Windows. > > char=0 > while not char: > char=msvcrt.getch() > > That doesn't delay anything here. Works perfectly for me. You don't need the while loop, since getch blocks until a key is pressed. Rather than making arbitrary changes to the code, try printing char after the loop exits and see what it contains. That may give you a hint as to what is going on. Also, are you using an IDE? If so, it could very well be interfering with the keyboard buffer, for its own purposes. E.g. in IDLE 2.6.2, if I call getch it *immediately* returns without blocking: >>> msvcrt.getch() '\xff' -- Steven
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-08 02:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4e3f4d99$0$1070$c3e8da3$9f400e27@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #11018 |
Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python pearwood.info> wrote: > Also, are you using an IDE? If so, it could very well be > interfering with the keyboard buffer I really don't know how to answer your question. I am using Windows XP SP3. Komodo Edit 6 for editing the *.py file. Dragon Naturally Speaking, Natlink, and Dragonfly might all be part of the process. Must be my system. I will post the solution if it comes up.
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| From | Gelonida N <gelonida@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-08-08 09:41 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2026.1312789282.1164.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #11022 |
On 08/08/2011 04:44 AM, John Doe wrote: > Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python pearwood.info> wrote: > >> Also, are you using an IDE? If so, it could very well be >> interfering with the keyboard buffer > > I really don't know how to answer your question. I am using > Windows XP SP3. Komodo Edit 6 for editing the *.py file. Dragon > Naturally Speaking, Natlink, and Dragonfly might all be part of > the process. > > Must be my system. I will post the solution if it comes up. Main question is whether your script is exectued in a console window (like cmd.exe) or from within a graphical library without console. you yould try to start cmd.exe and call your python script directly from there. if this doesn't work, then try just a simple test script containing nothing else than the code to wait for a keypress. Simple test script (working fine for me) import msvcrt print "before" msvcrt.getch() print "after"
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-16 18:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4e4aba2c$0$944$c3e8da3$9f400e27@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #11017 |
def wait_for_keystroke():
char=0
while not char==0x1B:
char=msvcrt.getch()
That freezes the process. Am I using the right code for the escape
key, or doing anything else wrong?
Again, I know it could be my system. But I must find a way to do this
from within Windows. I use a keyboard hook written in C++, maybe
something from that would be useful, but maybe complex.
Thanks.
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-16 18:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4e4abb78$0$944$c3e8da3$9f400e27@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #11599 |
> def wait_for_keystroke(): > char=0 > while not char==0x1B: > char=msvcrt.getch() I tried using while not char==chr(27):
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-16 20:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4e4ad039$0$9663$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #11017 |
def wait_for_keystroke():
char=0
while not (char==chr(27) or char==chr(110)):
char=msvcrt.getch()
if char==0:
return
That freezes the process.
That means char=msvcrt.getch() is getting something?
Could it have something to do with the formatting of the character?
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| From | Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> |
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| Date | 2011-08-16 14:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <acpl475c1ae1pgcv73hj2oqln7n0qn6tkl@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #11610 |
John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>def wait_for_keystroke():
> char=0
> while not (char==chr(27) or char==chr(110)):
> char=msvcrt.getch()
> if char==0:
> return
>
>That freezes the process.
That exact code works perfectly for me. The function returns as soon as I
press the escape key. You are running this from a console process, and not
a GUI process, right?
>That means char=msvcrt.getch() is getting something?
Did you ever think about inserting a debug statement to help you?
print hex(ord(char))
--
Tim Roberts, timr@probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-16 21:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4e4ae844$0$29730$c3e8da3$92d0a893@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #11616 |
Tim Roberts <timr probo.com> wrote: > John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > >>def wait_for_keystroke(): >> char=0 while not (char==chr(27) or char==chr(110)): >> char=msvcrt.getch() if char==0: >> return >> >>That freezes the process. > > That exact code works perfectly for me. The function returns as > soon as I press the escape key. You are running this from a > console process, and not a GUI process, right? No. I am running this from within Windows, all sorts of Windows. So... Does that mean I will need something complex like a keyboard hook? Or what? Thanks. -- > >>That means char=msvcrt.getch() is getting something? > > Did you ever think about inserting a debug statement to help you? > print hex(ord(char))
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| From | Jerry Hill <malaclypse2@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-08-16 20:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.107.1313539907.27778.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #11618 |
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 5:59 PM, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > No. I am running this from within Windows, all sorts of Windows. What does that mean? You seem very resistant to answering anyone's questions about your code. Is your code run from the command line, or does it have a GUI? If it has a GUI, what windowing toolkit are you using? If you have code that's not working, please, show us a short, run-able bit of sample code that demonstrates the problem you're experiencing. Describe the behavior you see, the behavior you expected instead, and the full text of any traceback you may be getting. -- Jerry
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-17 03:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4e4b3b02$0$30718$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #11631 |
Jerry Hill <malaclypse2 gmail.com> wrote: > John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote: >> No. I am running this from within Windows, all sorts of >> Windows. > > What does that mean? You snipped the context, Benny. > You seem very resistant to answering anyone's questions about > your code. No one else has had a problem with my code, Benny, and you have not questioned my code. I laid it out, they tried it, and now we're getting on with it. > Is your code run from the command line, or does it have a GUI? Using "does your code have a GUI" produces zero search results. Maybe that works better in some other language. > If it has a GUI, what windowing toolkit are you using? I guess the answer is Dragonfly. Or maybe it's Komodo (the IDE), as previously stated. I have never been interested in making Windows, just making Windows dance. I do macroing. > If you have code that's not working, please, show us a short, > run-able bit of sample code that demonstrates the problem you're > experiencing. Benny... Apparently you have missed at least two other replies that said they tried some of the code I provided and it worked fine for them. As already stated, a hook is probably required. It's not a big surprise to me, but it's a lot more work. And now I am in the process of getting it done. I expect the results to be very pleasant, though. I'm going to have a system that does voice-activated scripting combined with a systemwide hook, all in one package. If I can get the hook properly installed, it should rock, and I'm ready to tackle it. -- > Describe the behavior you see, the behavior you expected > instead, and the full text of any traceback you may be getting. > > -- > Jerry > > > Path: news.astraweb.com!border6.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail > Return-Path: <malaclypse2 gmail.com> > X-Original-To: python-list python.org > Delivered-To: python-list mail.python.org > X-Spam-Status: OK 0.054 > X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.89; '*S*': 0.00; 'sorts': 0.04; 'answering': 0.09; 'demonstrates': 0.09; '16,': 0.15; 'doe': 0.16; 'getting.': 0.16; 'subject:continuing': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'tue,': 0.23; 'pm,': 0.24; 'command': 0.24; 'aug': 0.24; 'traceback': 0.24; 'code': 0.25; 'code.': 0.26; 'bit': 0.28; 'problem': 0.28; 'message-id: mail.gmail.com': 0.29; 'toolkit': 0.30; 'subject:?': 0.31; 'seem': 0.31; 'does': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'describe': 0.34; 'see,': 0.34; 'short,': 0.34; 'running': 0.35; 'instead,': 0.37; 'run': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'your': 0.61; 'john': 0.62; 'full': 0.63; 'show': 0.67; 'received:209.85.215.174': 0.67; 'received:mail-ey0-f174.google.com': 0.67; 'resistant': 0.84; 'windowing': 0.84; 'working,': 0.93 > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=09nEr3tlARCpTiOfhP1XOnteJhDd/baJpJhzNhp5UsI=; b=v9cmI/PvRfaLZhXxYs1bHlUOG+IaGEjPq0Xmx+WTkTOPc5YRFRNivsVO8wgKHaWXZm LhxtRbBJaAJuZlXNZ2rX2BxXaT8VJ6wnn2Z1gRv83Jqxi+jJ4zHcfExLPrLRzxLKZXOc oeVqZwTxJRX8VOytC17/RwVjznYcamlxZsG3Q= > MIME-Version: 1.0 > In-Reply-To: <4e4ae844$0$29730$c3e8da3$92d0a893 news.astraweb.com> > References: <4e3f2827$0$5826$c3e8da3$12bcf670 news.astraweb.com> <4e4ad039$0$9663$c3e8da3$76491128 news.astraweb.com> <acpl475c1ae1pgcv73hj2oqln7n0qn6tkl 4ax.com> <4e4ae844$0$29730$c3e8da3$92d0a893 news.astraweb.com> > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:11:39 -0400 > Subject: Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? > From: Jerry Hill <malaclypse2 gmail.com> > To: python-list python.org > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > X-BeenThere: python-list python.org > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 > Precedence: list > List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request python.org?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list> > List-Post: <mailto:python-list python.org> > List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request python.org?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request python.org?subject=subscribe> > Newsgroups: comp.lang.python > Message-ID: <mailman.107.1313539907.27778.python-list python.org> > Lines: 13 > NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 > X-Trace: 1313539907 news.xs4all.nl 23971 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45697 > X-Complaints-To: abuse xs4all.nl >
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| From | Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> |
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| Date | 2011-08-17 05:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnj4mjr1.2pre.usenet-nospam@guild.seebs.net> |
| In reply to | #11654 |
On 2011-08-17, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > Using "does your code have a GUI" produces zero search results. > Maybe that works better in some other language. You shouldn't need a search engine to answer a question about your code. If you do, it suggests that perhaps one or more of the terms are unfamiliar to you? -s -- Copyright 2011, all wrongs reversed. Peter Seebach / usenet-nospam@seebs.net http://www.seebs.net/log/ <-- lawsuits, religion, and funny pictures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology) <-- get educated! I am not speaking for my employer, although they do rent some of my opinions.
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-17 05:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4e4b566c$0$3959$c3e8da3$b23f186d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #11656 |
Seebs <usenet-nospam seebs.net> wrote: > John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote: >> Using "does your code have a GUI" produces zero search results. >> Maybe that works better in some other language. > > You shouldn't need a search engine to answer a question about > your code. Context is lost when you quote only one level. I was not answering a question about my code. I was pointing out the fact that my questioner's terminology is strange/corrupt. > If you do, it suggests that perhaps one or more of the terms are > unfamiliar to you? Yes, even the common term "command line" is foreign to me. I do some powerful stuff in Windows, without need for a command line. I realize it exists and that some people live by it, but it has been nearly useless to me. -- > > -s > -- > Copyright 2011, all wrongs reversed. Peter Seebach / usenet-nospam seebs.net > http://www.seebs.net/log/ <-- lawsuits, religion, and funny pictures > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology) <-- get educated! > I am not speaking for my employer, although they do rent some of my opinions. > > > Path: news.astraweb.com!border6.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.glorb.com!news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!newspump.sol.net!post2.nntp.sol.net!posts.news.megabitz.net!nnrp2-asbnva.megabitz.net!not-for-mail > Newsgroups: comp.lang.python > From: Seebs <usenet-nospam seebs.net> > Subject: Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? > References: <4e3f2827$0$5826$c3e8da3$12bcf670 news.astraweb.com> <4e4ad039$0$9663$c3e8da3$76491128 news.astraweb.com> <acpl475c1ae1pgcv73hj2oqln7n0qn6tkl 4ax.com> <4e4ae844$0$29730$c3e8da3$92d0a893 news.astraweb.com> <mailman.107.1313539907.27778.python-list python.org> <4e4b3b02$0$30718$c3e8da3$f017e9df news.astraweb.com> > User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (Darwin) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Message-ID: <slrnj4mjr1.2pre.usenet-nospam guild.seebs.net> > Date: 17 Aug 2011 05:06:24 GMT > Lines: 14 > Organization: Megabitz - More USENET, Faster USENET > NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Aug 2011 05:06:24 GMT > NNTP-Posting-Host: 93ee8380.news.megabitz.net > X-Trace: DXC=oHM8SW;d^:0L\jMDQ^7Q0;><6FU_Q:4m2^W\Y;gN2lO=:j84KQkNLA7b6g<dG D9A77d DE\31QY52V739;<gZ50?i9TYFJHfQ:dL=K2MaaFN9WbYhm5j?WK1 > X-Complaints-To: abuse megabitz.net >
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| From | Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> |
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| Date | 2011-08-17 06:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnj4mmtc.2sah.usenet-nospam@guild.seebs.net> |
| In reply to | #11657 |
On 2011-08-17, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > Context is lost when you quote only one level. Not significantly. > I was not answering a question about my code. I was pointing out > the fact that my questioner's terminology is strange/corrupt. Well, that's the thing. There was a question there, with perfectly valid terminology. >> If you do, it suggests that perhaps one or more of the terms are >> unfamiliar to you? > Yes, even the common term "command line" is foreign to me. I do > some powerful stuff in Windows, without need for a command line. So apparently you *do* know the term. Normally, to say that a term is foreign to you is to say that you have no idea what it means, not that you know what it means but don't use it. > I realize it exists and that some people live by it, but it has > been nearly useless to me. In which case, you're not using a command line, and are using a GUI, and the other poster's question is answered. The Google results you cite to are uninteresting and frankly irrelevant. If someone asks me whether the ornamental fish in my 55-gallon tank is a koi, that Google has no hits for "ornamental fish in your 55-gallon tank is a koi" does not mean that the terminology is "strange" or "corrupt". The terminology was fine. -s -- Copyright 2011, all wrongs reversed. Peter Seebach / usenet-nospam@seebs.net http://www.seebs.net/log/ <-- lawsuits, religion, and funny pictures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology) <-- get educated! I am not speaking for my employer, although they do rent some of my opinions.
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-08-17 08:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.118.1313565567.27778.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #11658 |
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> wrote: >> Yes, even the common term "command line" is foreign to me. I do >> some powerful stuff in Windows, without need for a command line. > > So apparently you *do* know the term. Normally, to say that a term is > foreign to you is to say that you have no idea what it means, not that > you know what it means but don't use it. > Unless you're saying it for deliberate effect. Smith: "To whom do you pay rent?" Arcadian girl: "Rent? We do not know what it is to pay rent!" Smith: "Ah. They're Irish." They know full well what "rent" means, but don't truly comprehend the concept, as they've never done it. I would say that for many people, command lines are the same thing. For me, photo editing is like that. ChrisA
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-08-17 07:23 +0000 |
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Seebs <usenet-nospam seebs.net> wrote: > John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote: >> Context is lost when you quote only one level. > > Not significantly. Whatever you say, Jeebs. >> I was not answering a question about my code. I was pointing >> out the fact that my questioner's terminology is >> strange/corrupt. > > Well, that's the thing. There was a question there, with > perfectly valid terminology. And I respect your opinion, Jeebs. >>> If you do, it suggests that perhaps one or more of the terms >>> are unfamiliar to you? > >> Yes, even the common term "command line" is foreign to me. I do >> some powerful stuff in Windows, without need for a command >> line. > > So apparently you *do* know the term. Not very well, obviously. > Normally, to say that a term is foreign to you is to say that > you have no idea what it means, Sounds like being a lexicographer is a fantasy of yours, Jeebs. > not that you know what it means but don't use it. But in fact I do not have a clear understanding of what it means, Jeebs, but I know that it's a common term. You are not a lexicographer, dude. >> I realize it exists and that some people live by it, but it has >> been nearly useless to me. > > In which case, you're not using a command line, and are using a > GUI, and the other poster's question is answered. That might have been clear to most normal people in my first reply to the first follow-up. "I am using Windows XP SP3. Komodo Edit 6 for editing the *.py file. Dragon Naturally Speaking, Natlink, and Dragonfly might all be part of the process." The answer was pointless by the time the question was asked straightforward. Thanks to the prior replies, by then I had already figured out that I need a keyboard hook. The answer doesn't matter anymore. > The Google results you cite to are uninteresting and frankly > irrelevant. You have every right to an opinion, Fuckturd. > If someone asks me whether the ornamental fish in my 55-gallon > tank is a koi, that Google has no hits for "ornamental fish in > your 55-gallon tank is a koi" does not mean that the terminology > is "strange" or "corrupt". No wonder you don't quote relevant material, Jeebs. If anybody knew what you were comparing that expression to, you would look stupid. > The terminology was fine. Are you a master of terminology on wikishit, Jeebs? I think wikishit sucks. Wannabe lexicographers like you might be a reason. I've dealt with some real lexicographers, Jeebs, you aren't one. -- > > -s > -- > Copyright 2011, all wrongs reversed. Peter Seebach / usenet-nospam seebs.net > http://www.seebs.net/log/ <-- lawsuits, religion, and funny pictures > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology) <-- get educated! > I am not speaking for my employer, although they do rent some of my opinions. > > > Path: news.astraweb.com!border6.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!post2.nntp.sol.net!posts.news.megabitz.net!nnrp3-asbnva.megabitz.net!not-for-mail > Newsgroups: comp.lang.python > From: Seebs <usenet-nospam seebs.net> > Subject: Re: Wait for a keypress before continuing? > References: <4e3f2827$0$5826$c3e8da3$12bcf670 news.astraweb.com> <4e4ad039$0$9663$c3e8da3$76491128 news.astraweb.com> <acpl475c1ae1pgcv73hj2oqln7n0qn6tkl 4ax.com> <4e4ae844$0$29730$c3e8da3$92d0a893 news.astraweb.com> <mailman.107.1313539907.27778.python-list python.org> <4e4b3b02$0$30718$c3e8da3$f017e9df news.astraweb.com> <slrnj4mjr1.2pre.usenet-nospam guild.seebs.net> <4e4b566c$0$3959$c3e8da3$b23f186d news.astraweb.com> > User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (Darwin) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Message-ID: <slrnj4mmtc.2sah.usenet-nospam guild.seebs.net> > Date: 17 Aug 2011 06:12:02 GMT > Lines: 40 > Organization: Megabitz - More USENET, Faster USENET > NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Aug 2011 06:12:02 GMT > NNTP-Posting-Host: 3c8d6a06.news.megabitz.net > X-Trace: DXC=BKlkN0:D\OSc::[BQideGP><6FU_Q:4mR^W\Y;gN2lO]C2e6efi]<9Z?jW6Mmc0=4W7d DE\31QYU2V739;<gZ5P?i9TYFJHfQZUBoD_OMJGJU?7AKaKNWGF_ > X-Complaints-To: abuse megabitz.net >
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2011-08-17 18:28 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <4e4b7b9f$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #11661 |
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 05:23 pm John Doe wrote: > You have every right to an opinion, Fuckturd. I shouldn't need to say this to anyone over the age of four, but being obnoxious to people trying to help does not encourage others to answer your question. You don't win points for insulting people who are trying to solve your problems. -- Steven
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| From | Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> |
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| Date | 2011-08-17 16:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnj4nrg8.clc.usenet-nospam@guild.seebs.net> |
| In reply to | #11666 |
On 2011-08-17, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote: > I shouldn't need to say this to anyone over the age of four, but being > obnoxious to people trying to help does not encourage others to answer your > question. You don't win points for insulting people who are trying to solve > your problems. The frustrating part, of course, is that the people who do this are doing it for reasons such that the explanation seems only proof that they are even more right than they had previously expected. Pathological narcissism is scary. If you ever find yourself going longer than usual without being wrong, start checking your work more carefully. :) -s -- Copyright 2011, all wrongs reversed. Peter Seebach / usenet-nospam@seebs.net http://www.seebs.net/log/ <-- lawsuits, religion, and funny pictures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology) <-- get educated! I am not speaking for my employer, although they do rent some of my opinions.
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| From | Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> |
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| Date | 2011-08-17 10:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.138.1313601691.27778.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #11697 |
Seebs wrote: > Pathological narcissism is scary. If you ever find yourself going longer > than usual without being wrong, start checking your work more carefully. :) +1 QOTW
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| From | Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> |
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| Date | 2011-08-17 06:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.127.1313587248.27778.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #11661 |
Welcome to my killfile. *plonk*
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