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Windows automatic rebooting due to faulty code

Started byRonak Dhakan <ronaksoni301@gmail.com>
First post2014-05-23 07:56 -0700
Last post2014-05-24 02:36 +0200
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  Windows automatic rebooting due to faulty code Ronak Dhakan <ronaksoni301@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 07:56 -0700
    Re: Windows automatic rebooting due to faulty code Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 01:04 +1000
      Re: Windows automatic rebooting due to faulty code Ronak Dhakan <ronaksoni301@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 08:26 -0700
        Re: Windows automatic rebooting due to faulty code Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 01:36 +1000
          Re: Windows automatic rebooting due to faulty code Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 09:05 -0700
          Re: Windows automatic rebooting due to faulty code Ronak Dhakan <ronaksoni301@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 09:08 -0700
            Re: Windows automatic rebooting due to faulty code CHIN Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 09:30 -0700
            Re: Windows automatic rebooting due to faulty code Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 12:33 -0400
            Re: Windows automatic rebooting due to faulty code Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-23 15:19 -0400
        Re: Windows automatic rebooting due to faulty code Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 16:54 -0600
          Re: Windows automatic rebooting due to faulty code Irmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl> - 2014-05-24 02:36 +0200

#71929 — Windows automatic rebooting due to faulty code

FromRonak Dhakan <ronaksoni301@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-23 07:56 -0700
SubjectWindows automatic rebooting due to faulty code
Message-ID<fbf47420-bcdf-4cf4-9fdd-fb350c52ff7d@googlegroups.com>
I am learning python, and sometimes when I run a file with a faulty, windows gives a message that the system is rebooting and gives me 1 minute to save my work. Does anyone know how can I fix this? Most of the time a faulty code gives errors in python, but this is unique. I create files like Exercise 1.2.py and run it through IDLE.

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#71931

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-24 01:04 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.10246.1400857479.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#71929
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Ronak Dhakan <ronaksoni301@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am learning python, and sometimes when I run a file with a faulty, windows gives a message that the system is rebooting and gives me 1 minute to save my work. Does anyone know how can I fix this? Most of the time a faulty code gives errors in python, but this is unique. I create files like Exercise 1.2.py and run it through IDLE.
>

I'm very much surprised that any Python coding error could do this.
What code triggers this? Is it consistent?

More likely it's something else in your system. Pure coincidence.

ChrisA

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#71933

FromRonak Dhakan <ronaksoni301@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-23 08:26 -0700
Message-ID<fdbd4917-bd2f-43c4-abc1-cf87a1bc2023@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#71931
On Friday, May 23, 2014 8:34:31 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Ronak Dhakan wrote:
> 
> > I am learning python, and sometimes when I run a file with a faulty, windows gives a message that the system is rebooting and gives me 1 minute to save my work. Does anyone know how can I fix this? Most of the time a faulty code gives errors in python, but this is unique. I create files like Exercise 1.2.py and run it through IDLE.
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> I'm very much surprised that any Python coding error could do this.
> 
> What code triggers this? Is it consistent?
> 
> 
> 
> More likely it's something else in your system. Pure coincidence.
> 
> 
> 
> ChrisA

Even I am surprised, python errors should stay in python. But I am sure that the reboot is triggered exactly when I run some faulty code. And usually I change the code after reboot, so I haven't checked whether the same code is able to repeat the reboot. This happens even in simple code of 10-15 lines for drawing a polygon.

There was a problem while creating the post asking the question. Here it is now: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/WINUrOfAey4/pvbnapLrRcsJ

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#71934

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-24 01:36 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.10248.1400859710.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#71933
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:26 AM, Ronak Dhakan <ronaksoni301@gmail.com> wrote:
> Even I am surprised, python errors should stay in python. But I am sure that the reboot is triggered exactly when I run some faulty code. And usually I change the code after reboot, so I haven't checked whether the same code is able to repeat the reboot. This happens even in simple code of 10-15 lines for drawing a polygon.
>

Aim for consistency and reproducibility. Figure out something that
always brings Windows down. More importantly... *tell us what modules
you are using*. What draws a polygon here? What are you working with?
That's kinda critical here, especially if (as I suspect) it's not part
of the Python standard library.

> There was a problem while creating the post asking the question. Here it is now: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/WINUrOfAey4/pvbnapLrRcsJ
>

Solution: Get off Google Groups. Subscribe to python-list@python.org
and read it all in your email client, or read comp.lang.python in a
real newsreader. That'll fix several other problems too.

ChrisA

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#71935

FromRustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-23 09:05 -0700
Message-ID<bc8ad8c8-f5c9-438a-899b-28ff80b8fa62@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#71934
On Friday, May 23, 2014 9:06:32 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:

> > There was a problem while creating the post asking the question. Here it is now: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/WINUrOfAey4/pvbnapLrRcsJ

> Solution: Get off Google Groups. Subscribe to python-list@python.org
> and read it all in your email client, or read comp.lang.python in a
> real newsreader. That'll fix several other problems too.

Or read and follow:
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython

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#71936

FromRonak Dhakan <ronaksoni301@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-23 09:08 -0700
Message-ID<921d8985-0730-4604-985d-7e77a4a4b45f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#71934
It is a small file to draw an approximate circle using Turtle. The reboot does not happen consistently. Here is the code: http://pastebin.com/8T3aRCEd

I was thinking whether there is a way to run python in a virtual environment.

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#71937

FromCHIN Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-23 09:30 -0700
Message-ID<d03a476a-b9b2-467a-bf0c-35092215427e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#71936
On Saturday, May 24, 2014 12:08:24 AM UTC+8, Ronak Dhakan wrote:
> It is a small file to draw an approximate circle using Turtle. The reboot does not happen consistently. Here is the code: http://pastebin.com/8T3aRCEd
> 
> 
> 
> I was thinking whether there is a way to run python in a virtual environment.

Check colinux or VMWARE.

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#71938

FromJoel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-23 12:33 -0400
Message-ID<mailman.10250.1400862845.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#71936

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On May 23, 2014 12:12 PM, "Ronak Dhakan" <ronaksoni301@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It is a small file to draw an approximate circle using Turtle. The reboot
does not happen consistently. Here is the code: http://pastebin.com/8T3aRCEd
>
> I was thinking whether there is a way to run python in a virtual
environment.
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Try on different machine. Maybe hardware or driver issue

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#71941

FromTerry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Date2014-05-23 15:19 -0400
Message-ID<mailman.10253.1400872824.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#71936
On 5/23/2014 12:08 PM, Ronak Dhakan wrote:
> It is a small file to draw an approximate circle using Turtle.
 > The reboot does not happen consistently. Here is the code:
 > http://pastebin.com/8T3aRCEd

from swampy.TurtleWorld import *
world = TurtleWorld()

This is not the turtle module in the stdlib. It is most like the source 
of your reboot problem. Report your problem to the author. Also try 
running your example in the Windows console. (Not nearly as nice, I 
know.) There might possibly be a bad interaction with Idle.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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#71946

FromMichael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-23 16:54 -0600
Message-ID<mailman.10257.1400885673.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#71933
On 05/23/2014 09:26 AM, Ronak Dhakan wrote:
> Even I am surprised, python errors should stay in python. But I am
> sure that the reboot is triggered exactly when I run some faulty
> code. And usually I change the code after reboot, so I haven't
> checked whether the same code is able to repeat the reboot. This
> happens even in simple code of 10-15 lines for drawing a polygon.
> 
> There was a problem while creating the post asking the question. Here
> it is now:
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/WINUrOfAey4/pvbnapLrRcsJ

Almost certainly you are experiencing a hardware fault.  Possibly bad
RAM.  Windows will not let user-space code crash the operating system.
Though user-space code could trigger something in the kernel that then
faults.  This is likely what's happening here.  But the real cause is
probably hardware. If it's not RAM, then it might be video hardware
failing.

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#71950

FromIrmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl>
Date2014-05-24 02:36 +0200
Message-ID<537fe994$0$2831$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#71946
On 24-5-2014 0:54, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 05/23/2014 09:26 AM, Ronak Dhakan wrote:
>> Even I am surprised, python errors should stay in python. But I am
>> sure that the reboot is triggered exactly when I run some faulty
>> code. And usually I change the code after reboot, so I haven't
>> checked whether the same code is able to repeat the reboot. This
>> happens even in simple code of 10-15 lines for drawing a polygon.
>>
>> There was a problem while creating the post asking the question. Here
>> it is now:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/WINUrOfAey4/pvbnapLrRcsJ
> 
> Almost certainly you are experiencing a hardware fault.  Possibly bad
> RAM.  Windows will not let user-space code crash the operating system.
> Though user-space code could trigger something in the kernel that then
> faults.  This is likely what's happening here.  But the real cause is
> probably hardware. If it's not RAM, then it might be video hardware
> failing.
> 

Or the computer has been infected by malware.



-I.

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