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  Python and Math "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 23:13 -0400
    Re: Python and Math Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 20:26 -0700
      Re: Python and Math "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 01:04 -0400
    Re: Python and Math Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 13:33 +1000
    Re: Python and Math Gary Herron <gary.herron@islandtraining.com> - 2014-05-17 21:12 -0700
    Re: Python and Math Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-05-18 04:51 +0000
      Re: Python and Math "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 01:33 -0400
      Re: Python and Math Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-05-18 09:25 -0400
        Re: Python and Math Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-18 15:05 +0100
    Re: Python and Math Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-05-18 15:59 +0200
    Re: Python and Math Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-18 15:40 +0000
      Re: Python and Math "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 14:09 -0400
        Re: Python and Math Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-05-20 20:40 -0400
        Re: Python and Math Tony the Tiger <tony@tiger.invalid> - 2014-05-21 00:59 +0000
          Re: Python and Math Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2014-05-21 10:32 +0100
        Re: Python and Math Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2014-05-21 10:34 +0100
      Re: Python and Math Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 19:42 +0100
        Re: Python and Math Fabien <fabien.maussion@gmail.com> - 2014-05-19 12:15 +0200
          Re: Python and Math Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2014-05-19 11:30 +0100
          Re: Python and Math Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-19 05:46 -0700
            Re: Python and Math Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-19 23:09 +1000
              Re: Python and Math Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-19 06:15 -0700
                Re: Python and Math Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-19 23:24 +1000
                Re: Python and Math Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2014-05-19 10:22 -0400
          Re: Python and Math wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-19 07:56 -0700
            Re: Python and Math Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-19 09:09 -0700
              Re: Python and Math wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-19 12:07 -0700
                Re: Python and Math Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2014-05-19 20:18 +0100
                  Re: Python and Math wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-20 02:19 -0700
                    Re: Python and Math Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2014-05-20 11:13 +0100
                      Re: Python and Math Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 04:20 -0700
                        Re: Python and Math Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2014-05-20 12:55 +0100
                          Re: Python and Math Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 07:14 -0700
                        Re: Python and Math "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-05-20 14:51 +0200
                          Re: Python and Math chris.barker@noaa.gov - 2014-05-21 16:14 -0700
                            Re: Python and Math wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-21 23:52 -0700
                            Re: Python and Math "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-05-22 11:04 +0200
                      Re: Python and Math wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-20 06:42 -0700
                        Re: Python and Math Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 07:23 -0700
                Re: Python and Math Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2014-05-20 09:03 +1000

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#71755

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
> The provers call the calculators as "Just applied not pure mathematicians"
> The calculators say of the provers: "They are not mathematicians but logicians"
> (or philosophers)" [Chris had a funny quote on this a few weeks ago]

Which Chris? I don't remember either reading or writing such a quote,
and would like to. There are a good few Chrises on this list :)

ChrisA

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#71756

On Monday, May 19, 2014 6:39:49 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Rustom Mody  wrote:
> > The provers call the calculators as "Just applied not pure mathematicians"
> > The calculators say of the provers: "They are not mathematicians but logicians"
> > (or philosophers)" [Chris had a funny quote on this a few weeks ago]

> Which Chris? I don't remember either reading or writing such a quote,
> and would like to. There are a good few Chrises on this list :)

You!!
Something about mathematicians philosophers and waste-paper baskets

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#71757

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, May 19, 2014 6:39:49 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Rustom Mody  wrote:
>> > The provers call the calculators as "Just applied not pure mathematicians"
>> > The calculators say of the provers: "They are not mathematicians but logicians"
>> > (or philosophers)" [Chris had a funny quote on this a few weeks ago]
>
>> Which Chris? I don't remember either reading or writing such a quote,
>> and would like to. There are a good few Chrises on this list :)
>
> You!!
> Something about mathematicians philosophers and waste-paper baskets

Oh! Yes, I remember now. Old joke I found someplace. Physicists need
heaps of sensitive (and expensive) equipment... mathematicians need
only pencils, paper, and waste-paper baskets. And philosophers don't
even need waste-paper baskets.

ChrisA

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#71762

On Monday 19 May 2014 09:24:18 Chris Angelico did opine
And Gene did reply:
> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > On Monday, May 19, 2014 6:39:49 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Rustom Mody  wrote:
> >> > The provers call the calculators as "Just applied not pure
> >> > mathematicians" The calculators say of the provers: "They are not
> >> > mathematicians but logicians" (or philosophers)" [Chris had a
> >> > funny quote on this a few weeks ago]
> >> 
> >> Which Chris? I don't remember either reading or writing such a
> >> quote, and would like to. There are a good few Chrises on this list
> >> :)
> > 
> > You!!
> > Something about mathematicians philosophers and waste-paper baskets
> 
> Oh! Yes, I remember now. Old joke I found someplace. Physicists need
> heaps of sensitive (and expensive) equipment... mathematicians need
> only pencils, paper, and waste-paper baskets. And philosophers don't
> even need waste-paper baskets.
> 
> ChrisA

I gotta grin and like it, that does boil it down to the pure essence.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS

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#71760

Le lundi 19 mai 2014 12:15:22 UTC+2, Fabien a écrit :
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> 
> I am new on this forum (I come from IDL and am starting to learn python)
> 
> 
> 
> This thread perfectly illustrates why Python is so scary to newcomers: 
> 
> one question, three answers: yes, no, maybe.
> 
> 
> 
> Python-fans sure would argue "freedom of choice" is the most important, 
> 
> but "being able to find the right tool for me in less than three days" 
> 
> surely is important too. The paradox of choice ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> Fabien

----------

Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython
for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to
understand how. Pip, setuptools, whl or manualy with from the
zip... completely lost. There is always something not working.

This morning I installed Py 3.4.1. I do not even
succeed to put it to work.

I know Python since v 1.5.6 !

I'm able to write "Numerical Recipes" in Python,
(I did it in Py2 and Py3), I'm unable to install
a piece of software (like Python) to work with.

I'm just wondering if finally the better solution
is not to stick with an "MS C#".

jmf

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#71765

On Monday, May 19, 2014 8:26:11 PM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote:

> Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython
> for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to
> understand how. Pip, setuptools, whl or manualy with from the
> zip... completely lost. There is always something not working.

> This morning I installed Py 3.4.1. I do not even
> succeed to put it to work.

> I know Python since v 1.5.6 !

> I'm able to write "Numerical Recipes" in Python,
> (I did it in Py2 and Py3), I'm unable to install
> a piece of software (like Python) to work with.

So what're you waiting for?
Ask here and someone or other will help you get your system running.

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#71774

Le lundi 19 mai 2014 18:09:24 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit :
> On Monday, May 19, 2014 8:26:11 PM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython
> 
> > for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to
> 
> > understand how. Pip, setuptools, whl or manualy with from the
> 
> > zip... completely lost. There is always something not working.
> 
> 
> 
> > This morning I installed Py 3.4.1. I do not even
> 
> > succeed to put it to work.
> 
> 
> 
> > I know Python since v 1.5.6 !
> 
> 
> 
> > I'm able to write "Numerical Recipes" in Python,
> 
> > (I did it in Py2 and Py3), I'm unable to install
> 
> > a piece of software (like Python) to work with.
> 
> 
> 
> So what're you waiting for?
> 
> Ask here and someone or other will help you get your system running.

--------


You know. You are right. I can only agree. Just ask.
The problem I see, is why I only "succeded" to just find
on Google, so many people who are just asking...

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#71775

On 19/05/2014 20:07, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython
>>
>>> for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to
>>
>>> understand how. Pip, setuptools, whl or manualy with from the
>>
>>> zip... completely lost. There is always something not working.
>>
>>
>>
>>> This morning I installed Py 3.4.1. I do not even
>>
>>> succeed to put it to work.


I realise that this probably isn't very helpful, but I've just 
successfully installed ipython on Python 3.3 and Python 3.4 (Win7 
32-bit) by simply doing:

py -3.3 -mpip install ipython

py -3.4 -mpip install ipython

Since I don't have the various c:\pythonxx\scripts folders on my path, I 
did then have to launch it explictly:

c:\python33\scripts\ipython

but it was no harder than that.

What problems are you experiencing?

TJG

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#71793

Le lundi 19 mai 2014 21:18:54 UTC+2, Tim Golden a écrit :
> On 19/05/2014 20:07, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> >>> Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> understand how. Pip, setuptools, whl or manualy with from the
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> zip... completely lost. There is always something not working.
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> This morning I installed Py 3.4.1. I do not even
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> succeed to put it to work.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I realise that this probably isn't very helpful, but I've just 
> 
> successfully installed ipython on Python 3.3 and Python 3.4 (Win7 
> 
> 32-bit) by simply doing:
> 
> 
> 
> py -3.3 -mpip install ipython
> 
> 
> 
> py -3.4 -mpip install ipython
> 
> 
> 
> Since I don't have the various c:\pythonxx\scripts folders on my path, I 
> 
> did then have to launch it explictly:
> 
> 
> 
> c:\python33\scripts\ipython
> 
> 
> 
> but it was no harder than that.
> 
> 
 Sorry, but I'm even not able to understand how
to install pip!
Py3.3, why? because I already all the Qt derivative.

I found the pip manual, I do not get it! To install
pip: To install or upgrade pip, securely download get-pip.py.
Where? What should I do with it?



It seems you
have to
install 

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#71794

On 20/05/2014 10:19, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote:
> Le lundi 19 mai 2014 21:18:54 UTC+2, Tim Golden a écrit :
>> On 19/05/2014 20:07, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython
>>>>> for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to
>>>>> understand how. Pip, setuptools, whl or manualy with from
>>>>> the
>>>>> zip... completely lost. There is always something not
>>>>> working.

>> 
>>>>> This morning I installed Py 3.4.1. I do not even
>>>>> succeed to put it to work.
>> 
>> I realise that this probably isn't very helpful, but I've just
>> successfully installed ipython on Python 3.3 and Python 3.4 (Win7
>> 32-bit) by simply doing:
>> 
>> py -3.3 -mpip install ipython
>> 
>> py -3.4 -mpip install ipython
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Sorry, but I'm even not able to understand how to install pip! Py3.3,
> why? because I already all the Qt derivative.
> 
> I found the pip manual, I do not get it! To install pip: To install
> or upgrade pip, securely download get-pip.py. Where? What should I do
> with it?

Ah, I understand. I thought you already had pip and just had
difficulties beyond that. Frankly, yes, bootstrapping pip on Windows can
be a bit frustrating. That's why 3.4 comes with a version pre-installed.
But you say you want to stay with 3.3.

If it's possible, download get-pip.py from here:

https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py

(linked from here: http://pip.readthedocs.org/en/latest/installing.html)

using wget, curl, File Save As, python requests, urllib.urlretrieve or
whatever other method you choose.

And then run the get-pip.py program with the version of Python for which
you wish to install pip. eg,

c:\python33\python.exe get-pip.py

That will download the current versions of everything needed and will
put various flavours of pip.exe into c:\python33\scripts. As I mentioned
before, I've tended not to have the scripts directory on my path, and
you can instead do:

py -3.3 -mpip install ....


I think some people have put together .msi/.exe installers for this but
I can't point to any one in particular.

TJG

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#71795

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:43:45 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Golden wrote:
> If it's possible, download get-pip.py from here:
> 
> https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py

Gives me secure connection failed error (in firefox)

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#71796

On 20/05/2014 12:20, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:43:45 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Golden wrote:
>> If it's possible, download get-pip.py from here:
>>
>> https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py
> 
> Gives me secure connection failed error (in firefox)
> 

I've reported on the PyPA issues list for pip:

https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1823

but, as you can see from that report, I was only able to get a failure
in one circumstance. I can successfully download via FF29, IE11 & chrome
whatever, all on Win7.

TJG

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#71806

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:25:40 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Golden wrote:
> On 20/05/2014 12:20, Rustom Mody wrote:
> 
> > On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:43:45 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Golden wrote:
> >> If it's possible, download get-pip.py from here:
> >>
> >> https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py
> > 
> > Gives me secure connection failed error (in firefox)
> > 
> 
> 
> I've reported on the PyPA issues list for pip:
> 
> https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1823

Thanks

> 
> 
> 
> but, as you can see from that report, I was only able to get a failure
> 
> in one circumstance. I can successfully download via FF29, IE11 & chrome
> 
> whatever, all on Win7.

Seems to be working for me also (now).

[Without claiming any understanding]...

I dont know what wget has to do with it (in the bug report)
I just opened it in firefox: Earlier it didn't work now its working

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#71802

"Tim Golden" <mail@timgolden.me.uk> wrote in message 
news:537B42BC.3030508@timgolden.me.uk...
> On 20/05/2014 12:20, Rustom Mody wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:43:45 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Golden wrote:
>>> If it's possible, download get-pip.py from here:
>>>
>>> https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py
>>
>> Gives me secure connection failed error (in firefox)
>>
>
> I've reported on the PyPA issues list for pip:
>
> https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1823
>
> but, as you can see from that report, I was only able to get a failure
> in one circumstance. I can successfully download via FF29, IE11 & chrome
> whatever, all on Win7.
>

I have never managed to install pip before (not that I have tried very hard) 
but following
your instructions I seemed to have installed it successfully, using Windows 
Server 2003,
IE8, and python 3.3.

I used it to install IPython, with the following results.

First I ran 'pip install ipython', which worked.

Then I read the IPython docs, which gave the following command to install 
Notebook -
    'pip install ipython[notebook]'

That seemed to work, but when I ran 'ipython notebook' it failed on 'import 
pyzmq'.

I ran 'pip install pyzmq', tried again, and it failed on 'import jinja2'.

I used pip to install that, then it failed on 'import tornado'.

I used pip to install that, and now it seems to be working.

Now I understand why 'pip' is so popular - despite the above hiccups, it 
felt very smooth.

Thanks for the instructions, Tim - much appreciated.

Frank Millman

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#71872

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:51:27 AM UTC-7, Frank Millman wrote:

> I used it to install IPython, with the following results.
> 
> First I ran 'pip install ipython', which worked.
> 
> Then I read the IPython docs, which gave the following command to install 
> 
> Notebook -
> 
>     'pip install ipython[notebook]'

the reason for this is that the notebook has additional dependencies beyond what "plain" ipython requires. adding the [notebook] is supposed to bring those in, but apparetnly did not.

So this is either a bug, or maybe the problem is that you had already installed ipython, so when you did :
 'pip install ipython[notebook]'

pip looked and saw that you already had it, so did nothing -- what did it report? In this caes:

 'pip install -U ipython[notebook]'

might have worked: -U means upgrade even if I already have it.

But I"m glad the rest of the pip installs worked, that's pretty new actually!

Note that the "scipy stack" and particularly extra add-on stuff like 3-d visualization, etc, is very hard to build and install -- so a number of folks rely on "distributions" that give you all that in one pile:

Enthought Canopy 
Continuum Anaconda

are two such options.

Very odd that pip being hard to figure out might send someone to MS C#:

Is there really a point and clic, out of the box high level interactive computational environment that MS delivers for C#  ;-)

Not that we don't need the installation of packages made even easier, but really!

-Chris


 

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#71874

Le jeudi 22 mai 2014 01:14:29 UTC+2, chris....@noaa.gov a écrit :
> On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:51:27 AM UTC-7, Frank Millman wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > I used it to install IPython, with the following results.
> 
> > 
> 
> > First I ran 'pip install ipython', which worked.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Then I read the IPython docs, which gave the following command to install 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Notebook -
> 
> > 
> 
> >     'pip install ipython[notebook]'
> 
> 
> 
> the reason for this is that the notebook has additional dependencies beyond what "plain" ipython requires. adding the [notebook] is supposed to bring those in, but apparetnly did not.
> 
> 
> 
> So this is either a bug, or maybe the problem is that you had already installed ipython, so when you did :
> 
>  'pip install ipython[notebook]'
> 
> 
> 
> pip looked and saw that you already had it, so did nothing -- what did it report? In this caes:
> 
> 
> 
>  'pip install -U ipython[notebook]'
> 
> 
> 
> might have worked: -U means upgrade even if I already have it.
> 
> 
> 
> But I"m glad the rest of the pip installs worked, that's pretty new actually!
> 
> 
> 
> Note that the "scipy stack" and particularly extra add-on stuff like 3-d visualization, etc, is very hard to build and install -- so a number of folks rely on "distributions" that give you all that in one pile:
> 
> 
> 
> Enthought Canopy 
> 
> Continuum Anaconda
> 
> 
> 
> are two such options.
> 
> 
> 
> Very odd that pip being hard to figure out might send someone to MS C#:
> 
> 
> 
> Is there really a point and clic, out of the box high level interactive computational environment that MS delivers for C#  ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> Not that we don't need the installation of packages made even easier, but really!
> 


=========
=========

Hi Chris, do you remember me? Look at the adress wxjm...

I wanted to test wxPhoenix. Unable to install it, whl...?

If you do not need tester(s) (and a little bit more) put it
it clearly in the wxPython front page.

I just type

"wx python wxphoenix download" in google.

Results, first entry:

Can someone tell me how to download wxPython Phoenix ...

jmf

PS The latest version of wxPython I tested fails due to
the coding of characters, you should not be suprised,
and you probably remember how many times I tried to
explain it.

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#71875

<chris.barker@noaa.gov> wrote in message 
news:281f5806-8793-4fd2-877c-214927ddaf10@googlegroups.com...
>
> pip looked and saw that you already had it, so did nothing -- what did it 
> report? In this caes:
>
> 'pip install -U ipython[notebook]'
>
> might have worked: -U means upgrade even if I already have it.
>

Indeed it did - thanks for the tip.

I used pip to uninstall jinja2. Afterwards, running 'ipython notebook' 
predictably failed.

Then I ran the above command to upgrade ipython notebook. It figured out 
that jinja2 was missing and re-installed it. Now it works again.

Very smooth.

Frank

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#71805

Le mardi 20 mai 2014 12:13:45 UTC+2, Tim Golden a écrit :
> On 20/05/2014 10:19, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Le lundi 19 mai 2014 21:18:54 UTC+2, Tim Golden a �crit :
> 
> >> On 19/05/2014 20:07, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> >> 
> 
> >>>>> Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython
> 
> >>>>> for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to
> 
> >>>>> understand how. Pip, setuptools, whl or manualy with from
> 
> >>>>> the
> 
> >>>>> zip... completely lost. There is always something not
> 
> >>>>> working.
> 
> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >>>>> This morning I installed Py 3.4.1. I do not even
> 
> >>>>> succeed to put it to work.
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> I realise that this probably isn't very helpful, but I've just
> 
> >> successfully installed ipython on Python 3.3 and Python 3.4 (Win7
> 
> >> 32-bit) by simply doing:
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> py -3.3 -mpip install ipython
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> py -3.4 -mpip install ipython
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> > Sorry, but I'm even not able to understand how to install pip! Py3.3,
> 
> > why? because I already all the Qt derivative.
> 
> > 
> 
> > I found the pip manual, I do not get it! To install pip: To install
> 
> > or upgrade pip, securely download get-pip.py. Where? What should I do
> 
> > with it?
> 
> 
> 
> Ah, I understand. I thought you already had pip and just had
> 
> difficulties beyond that. Frankly, yes, bootstrapping pip on Windows can
> 
> be a bit frustrating. That's why 3.4 comes with a version pre-installed.
> 
> But you say you want to stay with 3.3.
> 
> 
> 
> If it's possible, download get-pip.py from here:
> 
> 
> 
> https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py
> 
> 
> 
> (linked from here: http://pip.readthedocs.org/en/latest/installing.html)
> 
> 
> 
> using wget, curl, File Save As, python requests, urllib.urlretrieve or
> 
> whatever other method you choose.
> 
> 
> 
> And then run the get-pip.py program with the version of Python for which
> 
> you wish to install pip. eg,
> 
> 
> 
> c:\python33\python.exe get-pip.py
> 
> 
> 
> That will download the current versions of everything needed and will
> 
> put various flavours of pip.exe into c:\python33\scripts. As I mentioned
> 
> before, I've tended not to have the scripts directory on my path, and
> 
> you can instead do:
> 
> 
> 
> py -3.3 -mpip install ....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I think some people have put together .msi/.exe installers for this but
> 
> I can't point to any one in particular.
> 
> 
> 
> TJG

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I give up.
Anyway, thanks.

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#71807

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:12:19 PM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote:
> I give up.
> Anyway, thanks.


Take a deep breath.
Be patient.
And post the backtrace (or whatever is the evidence of 'not working')

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#71778

On 19May2014 12:07, wxjmfauth@gmail.com <wxjmfauth@gmail.com> wrote:
>Le lundi 19 mai 2014 18:09:24 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit :
>> > Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython
>> > for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to
>> > understand how. Pip, setuptools, whl or manualy with from the
>> > zip... completely lost. There is always something not working.
[...]
>>
>> So what're you waiting for?
>> Ask here and someone or other will help you get your system running.
>
>You know. You are right. I can only agree. Just ask.
>The problem I see, is why I only "succeded" to just find
>on Google, so many people who are just asking...

I have the same core skill: finding others with my question, not others with my 
needed answer. That the SO can usually find others with the answer when I 
cannot shows that there may be a mindset issue here.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au>

Did microsoft take you today? Where do you want them to go?

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