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| Started by | Kent Tong <kent.tong.mo@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-07-22 08:33 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-07-26 16:31 +0200 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 258 — 33 participants |
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Why not allow empty code blocks? Kent Tong <kent.tong.mo@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 08:33 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@highlandtechnology.invalid> - 2016-07-22 16:44 +0000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-23 11:49 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Kent Tong <kent.tong.mo@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 19:06 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-23 14:13 +0300
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 21:34 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-23 14:49 +0300
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-23 15:00 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 00:19 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-07-29 10:58 +0200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-07-29 07:14 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-29 14:15 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 07:41 -0600
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-29 23:43 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-07-29 15:55 +0200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-30 00:38 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-07-29 20:32 +0200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-30 13:49 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-08-02 09:31 +0200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-07-29 12:28 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-07-29 12:20 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-07-29 15:46 +0200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-07-29 15:43 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-29 21:19 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-30 01:01 +0300
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-30 13:35 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-30 11:15 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 21:25 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 04:39 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 21:49 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 05:11 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 22:22 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 05:31 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 22:44 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-31 01:07 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-30 13:39 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 22:47 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 22:47 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-30 13:27 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 22:34 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-31 00:58 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-31 00:47 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 09:15 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 09:29 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-31 03:53 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 12:16 -0600
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-07-31 13:37 +1200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 19:34 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-31 13:14 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 20:34 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:12 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 23:42 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-30 22:10 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-07-31 19:39 +1200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-31 10:51 +0300
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 01:18 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 06:51 -0600
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 09:23 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 01:14 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-08-01 03:06 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 10:32 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 02:37 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 09:58 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 03:15 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 10:48 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-07-31 13:45 +1200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 12:17 +1000
Procedures and functions [was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?] Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-31 13:32 +1000
Re: Procedures and functions [was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?] "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-07-31 00:01 -0400
Re: Procedures and functions [was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?] Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-31 16:40 +1000
Re: Procedures and functions [was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?] Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 23:47 -0700
Re: Procedures and functions [was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 16:55 +1000
Re: Procedures and functions [was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:05 +1000
Re: Procedures and functions [was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?] Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-07-31 00:26 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-07-30 23:51 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:21 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-30 21:22 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-08-02 12:30 +0200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 05:29 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-08-03 10:26 +0200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 04:48 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-03 15:09 +0300
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 05:23 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 05:27 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-03 15:37 +0300
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 05:43 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-03 15:34 +0300
{non sequitur/bad humor} was: Why not allow empty code blocks? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-03 18:01 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-31 02:43 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-30 23:06 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-30 23:36 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-30 14:58 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-31 01:48 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 02:34 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-30 19:46 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-31 12:10 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-07-30 23:41 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-31 11:18 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-08-01 01:31 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-07-31 12:39 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? bart4858@gmail.com - 2016-07-31 17:11 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 10:21 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 17:55 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 11:10 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 19:09 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 12:14 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? bart4858@gmail.com - 2016-08-01 00:55 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-07-31 22:08 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-07-31 21:29 -0400
Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-07-31 14:58 -0400
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-02 12:05 +0100
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 00:58 +1000
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-02 18:12 +0100
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+python@pearwood.info> - 2016-08-03 03:57 +1000
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-02 20:14 +0100
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-08-03 15:43 +1000
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-03 11:16 +0100
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 23:18 +1000
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+python@pearwood.info> - 2016-08-04 13:23 +1000
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-04 10:13 +0100
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 19:39 +1000
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-08-04 19:38 +1000
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-08-04 14:37 -0400
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 04:54 +1000
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 05:18 +1000
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2016-08-02 21:55 +0200
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 06:50 +1000
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-08-02 17:27 -0400
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 14:54 -0700
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-02 23:38 +0100
Re: Debugging (was Re: Why not allow empty code blocks?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 05:03 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-07-31 15:12 +1200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:07 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-30 15:16 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-31 02:08 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-31 02:10 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-07-31 15:10 +1200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-07-30 10:39 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-30 16:14 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-07-30 13:11 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-30 19:15 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-08-01 00:25 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-07-31 11:53 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-08-03 23:38 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-07-31 12:04 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 09:27 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-08-02 01:30 +1000
Using valid emails "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-08-01 12:05 -0400
Re: Using valid emails Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 02:22 +1000
Re: Using valid emails Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-01 22:16 +0300
Re: Using valid emails "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-08-01 12:40 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-08-01 22:14 +0300
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-31 19:41 +0300
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-08-01 03:22 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? "Jan Erik Moström" <lists@mostrom.pp.se> - 2016-07-31 20:58 +0200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:01 -0600
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? bart4858@gmail.com - 2016-07-31 16:43 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 09:49 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? bart4858@gmail.com - 2016-07-31 17:21 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 10:33 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? bart4858@gmail.com - 2016-08-01 01:05 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-01 09:50 +0000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? bart4858@gmail.com - 2016-08-01 06:26 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-08-01 20:12 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? bart4858@gmail.com - 2016-08-01 06:19 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? bartc <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 13:22 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 06:28 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-02 17:56 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve+python@pearwood.info> - 2016-08-03 03:54 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 05:10 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-02 20:19 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 19:38 +0000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? lists@juliensalort.org (Julien Salort) - 2016-08-02 21:45 +0200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve+python@pearwood.info> - 2016-08-03 03:50 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 12:22 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 03:02 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-08-03 18:58 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 05:16 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 22:36 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-03 14:04 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 23:25 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 14:06 +0000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-03 20:40 +0000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-03 14:23 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 23:31 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-03 19:52 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 06:12 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-03 21:53 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 07:39 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-03 23:21 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 08:31 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-04 00:51 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 16:25 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-08-04 00:48 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-08-01 09:40 +0000
Using valid emails "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-08-01 12:32 -0400
Re: Using valid emails Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 12:38 -0600
Re: Using valid emails "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-08-01 15:27 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@highlandtechnology.invalid> - 2016-07-28 20:01 +0000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 06:11 +1000
Detecting the trivial can be non-trivial (was Why not allow empty code blocks?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 05:28 -0700
Re: Detecting the trivial can be non-trivial (was Why not allow empty code blocks?) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-07-24 11:15 +0100
Re: Detecting the trivial can be non-trivial (was Why not allow empty code blocks?) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 07:49 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-07-23 08:29 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-23 16:13 +0300
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> - 2016-07-23 09:54 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-23 15:06 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-24 01:55 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-24 11:35 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-24 11:45 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 21:27 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-24 14:09 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 23:24 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-24 15:05 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-25 00:32 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-07-25 12:40 +1200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-25 02:14 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-07-25 11:45 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 09:54 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 03:02 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 10:11 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 03:26 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 19:43 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 20:48 -0600
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 13:12 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 20:20 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 13:28 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 20:46 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-25 17:20 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-25 14:27 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? neceros@gmail.com - 2016-07-24 11:27 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-24 22:17 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 08:28 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 22:48 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 23:38 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Marco Sulla <mail.python.org@marco.sulla.e4ward.com> - 2016-07-24 15:11 +0200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-24 15:44 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 00:51 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-24 19:14 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Jonathan Hayward <jonathan.hayward@pobox.com> - 2016-07-24 13:34 -0500
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-07-24 18:52 +0000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 05:00 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-24 21:03 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 07:08 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-24 23:13 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-07-25 13:04 +1200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-25 10:44 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-07-26 19:21 +1200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-07-26 10:56 +0300
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-07-26 20:35 +1200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-26 11:11 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-07-25 12:37 +1000
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-25 11:39 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-07-26 19:23 +1200
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-07-25 10:36 -0400
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-07-25 18:33 +0100
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 17:56 -0700
Re: Why not allow empty code blocks? Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-07-26 16:31 +0200
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| From | BartC <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-30 19:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nniqs1$s2l$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #112091 |
On 30/07/2016 18:11, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > Maybe you should just change it to I_Am_a_Troll@nowhere. It's becoming > increasingly obvious that you have absolutely no interest in Python and > are just trying to get a rise out of people. Calm down. I enjoy programming language design and especially like discussing syntax. That's all. -- Bartc
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| From | Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-08-01 00:25 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <g32spb5srjo5qakib683avs10hfqb5v9k7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #112091 |
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> wrote: >On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 16:14:18 +0100 >BartC <bc@freeuk.com> wrote: >> > By the way, the last time I replied to you it went to the list but >> > your address bounced. Was that a glitch or are you using an >> > invalid address in a mailing list? >> >> Do you mean my email address? That was valid once but no longer. (If >> you want to send an email replace "bc" with "bcas".) > >Are you kidding me? It's not our job to replace things in your email >address, it's yours. Fix your client. > >> I'm not using a mailing list; I'm posting to usenet. > >I don't care if you are using carrier pigeon. If you send an email >address, make it a valid one. I admire those who use a valid email address on Usenet but it is an open invitation for spammers. I doubt if there is anybody who uses their primary email address. > >Maybe you should just change it to I_Am_a_Troll@nowhere. To conform to RFC 2606 that should be <I_Am_a_Troll@nowhere.invalid>.
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| From | "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> |
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| Date | 2016-07-31 11:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.77.1469980445.6033.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #112138 |
On Mon, 01 Aug 2016 00:25:58 +1000 Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote: > "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> wrote: > >I don't care if you are using carrier pigeon. If you send an email > >address, make it a valid one. > > I admire those who use a valid email address on Usenet but it is an > open invitation for spammers. I doubt if there is anybody who uses > their primary email address. I never said that he had to use his primary address, just a valid one. On the other hand I have no throwaway accounts. Every address I use is a primary one. I have all sorts of methods to block spam. None of those methods involves moving my spam problem to someone else. But what do I know? I'm just some old fart who grew up being taught that society works best when you consider the other guy and take responsibility for your own messes. Old fashioned ideas I know. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain System Administrator, Vex.Net http://www.Vex.Net/ IM:darcy@Vex.Net VoIP: sip:darcy@Vex.Net
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| From | Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-08-03 23:38 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <c3s3qblr5egba3e6or6l3ejeks87m3sim7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #112140 |
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> wrote: >On Mon, 01 Aug 2016 00:25:58 +1000 >Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote: >> "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> wrote: >> >I don't care if you are using carrier pigeon. If you send an email >> >address, make it a valid one. >> >> I admire those who use a valid email address on Usenet but it is an >> open invitation for spammers. I doubt if there is anybody who uses >> their primary email address. > >I never said that he had to use his primary address, just a valid one. > >On the other hand I have no throwaway accounts. Every address I use is >a primary one. I have all sorts of methods to block spam. None of >those methods involves moving my spam problem to someone else. How do you manage to avoid the resources wasted on multiple mail servers in order for the spam to each you just so that you can block it? > >But what do I know? I'm just some old fart who grew up being taught >that society works best when you consider the other guy and take >responsibility for your own messes. Old fashioned ideas I know. Nearly twenty years ago The Internet Engineering Task Force produced RFC2606 so that I could consider the other guy and use .invalid as a TLD. It makes a false email address instantly recognisable. If it is not recognised by a person it will be recognised and bounced by a nearby mail server using minimum computer resources.
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| From | "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> |
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| Date | 2016-07-31 12:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.78.1469981083.6033.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #112138 |
On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:53:47 -0400 "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> wrote: > On Mon, 01 Aug 2016 00:25:58 +1000 > On the other hand I have no throwaway accounts. Every address I use > is a primary one. I have all sorts of methods to block spam. None of > those methods involves moving my spam problem to someone else. For example... <gordon@address.invalid>: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=address.invalid type=AAAA: Host not found So I have to examine every address I reply to or deal with the bounce message later. Way to move your spam problem to someone else. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain System Administrator, Vex.Net http://www.Vex.Net/ IM:darcy@Vex.Net VoIP: sip:darcy@Vex.Net
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| From | Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-07-31 09:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <87lh0h7oyb.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com> |
| In reply to | #112141 |
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> writes: > So I have to examine every address I reply to or deal with the bounce > message later. Way to move your spam problem to someone else. It's not entirely about spam. I stopped posting addresses because people kept insisting on replying to my posts by email instead of on the newsgroup. They did that even after I did usual spam-obfuscation on the addresses and asked in the message that I not get any email responses.
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| From | Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-08-02 01:30 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <soqupbdkik0bna68ql8ae33a9fjb4vbpk7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #112141 |
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> wrote: >On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:53:47 -0400 >"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> wrote: >> On Mon, 01 Aug 2016 00:25:58 +1000 >> On the other hand I have no throwaway accounts. Every address I use >> is a primary one. I have all sorts of methods to block spam. None of >> those methods involves moving my spam problem to someone else. > >For example... > ><gordon@address.invalid>: Host or domain name not found. Name service >error for name=address.invalid type=AAAA: Host not found > >So I have to examine every address I reply to or deal with the bounce >message later. Way to move your spam problem to someone else. .invalid is specified in RFC 2606 for exactly that purpose. If you don't notice that the address is invalid a server very close to you, probably your SMTP server, will tell you. In contrast, your valid email address will become the target of many spam emails even if you manage to block them. It will also be used as the source of spam so somebody at vex.net may be fooled into believing that they are receiving a proper email.
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| From | "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> |
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| Date | 2016-08-01 12:05 -0400 |
| Subject | Using valid emails |
| Message-ID | <mailman.96.1470067525.6033.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #112180 |
Time to change the subject. On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 01:30:47 +1000 Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote: > "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> wrote: > ><gordon@address.invalid>: Host or domain name not found. Name service > >error for name=address.invalid type=AAAA: Host not found > > > >So I have to examine every address I reply to or deal with the bounce > >message later. Way to move your spam problem to someone else. > > .invalid is specified in RFC 2606 for exactly that purpose. If you > don't notice that the address is invalid a server very close to you, Sure so either I have to stop and examine the address or else deal with the bounce from my SMTP server. Isn't that what I said? > probably your SMTP server, will tell you. In contrast, your valid > email address will become the target of many spam emails even if you > manage to block them. It will also be used as the source of spam so > somebody at vex.net may be fooled into believing that they are > receiving a proper email. I'm a little insulted that you think that I would ever allow someone to send mail to Vex.Net pretending to be from Vex.Net. That's just too easy to detect and block. Try it. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain System Administrator, Vex.Net http://www.Vex.Net/ IM:darcy@Vex.Net VoIP: sip:darcy@Vex.Net
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-08-02 02:22 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: Using valid emails |
| Message-ID | <mailman.98.1470068572.6033.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #112180 |
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:05 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain <darcy@vex.net> wrote: >> probably your SMTP server, will tell you. In contrast, your valid >> email address will become the target of many spam emails even if you >> manage to block them. It will also be used as the source of spam so >> somebody at vex.net may be fooled into believing that they are >> receiving a proper email. > > I'm a little insulted that you think that I would ever allow someone to > send mail to Vex.Net pretending to be from Vex.Net. That's just too > easy to detect and block. Try it. vex.net. 10800 IN TXT "v=spf1 mx -all" vex.net. 10800 IN MX 10 mail.vex.net. mail.vex.net. 10800 IN A 98.158.139.68 So, if you're not sending mail from 98.158.139.68 and you claim to be vex.net, you should be blocked. Unfortunately, a lot of domains don't have SPF records, or have very convoluted ones (check out gmail.com's SPF for instance). ChrisA
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| From | Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> |
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| Date | 2016-08-01 22:16 +0300 |
| Subject | Re: Using valid emails |
| Message-ID | <87h9b4cnau.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> |
| In reply to | #112186 |
Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>: > Unfortunately, a lot of domains don't have SPF records, or have very > convoluted ones (check out gmail.com's SPF for instance). That's their problem. Marko
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| From | "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> |
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| Date | 2016-08-01 12:40 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Using valid emails |
| Message-ID | <mailman.101.1470069616.6033.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #112180 |
On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 02:22:50 +1000 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm a little insulted that you think that I would ever allow > > someone to send mail to Vex.Net pretending to be from Vex.Net. > > That's just too easy to detect and block. Try it. > > vex.net. 10800 IN TXT "v=spf1 mx -all" > vex.net. 10800 IN MX 10 mail.vex.net. > mail.vex.net. 10800 IN A 98.158.139.68 > > So, if you're not sending mail from 98.158.139.68 and you claim to be > vex.net, you should be blocked. Exactly. I also have a further check. If you try to send me email pretending to be from Vex.Net you get a "5xx Yah Right" error. > Unfortunately, a lot of domains don't have SPF records, or have very > convoluted ones (check out gmail.com's SPF for instance). I can only fix my little corner of the Internet. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain System Administrator, Vex.Net http://www.Vex.Net/ IM:darcy@Vex.Net VoIP: sip:darcy@Vex.Net
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| From | Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> |
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| Date | 2016-08-01 22:14 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <87lh0gcnea.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> |
| In reply to | #112180 |
Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid>: > In contrast, your valid email address will become the target of many > spam emails even if you manage to block them. It will also be used as > the source of spam so somebody at vex.net may be fooled into believing > that they are receiving a proper email. Spammers aren't going to cow me into submission. This is my internet, not theirs. Anyway, SPF can prevent sender address spoofing effectively. Marko
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| From | Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> |
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| Date | 2016-07-31 19:41 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <8760rlep4p.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> |
| In reply to | #112138 |
Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid>: > I admire those who use a valid email address on Usenet but it is an > open invitation for spammers. I doubt if there is anybody who uses > their primary email address. Feel free to keep admiring me. Marko
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2016-08-01 03:22 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <579e33bc$0$1615$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #112138 |
On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:25 am, Gordon Levi wrote: > I admire those who use a valid email address on Usenet but it is an > open invitation for spammers. I doubt if there is anybody who uses > their primary email address. Spammers have moved on from Usenet. Those few that haven't are indistinguishable from the thousands who harvest email addresses from websites, address books, or just randomly generate addresses hoping they'll be delivered. -- Steven “Cheer up,” they said, “things could be worse.” So I cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse.
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| From | "Jan Erik Moström" <lists@mostrom.pp.se> |
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| Date | 2016-07-31 20:58 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.82.1469991583.6033.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #112148 |
On 31 Jul 2016, at 19:22, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:25 am, Gordon Levi wrote: > > >> I admire those who use a valid email address on Usenet but it is an >> open invitation for spammers. I doubt if there is anybody who uses >> their primary email address. > > > Spammers have moved on from Usenet. Those few that haven't are > indistinguishable from the thousands who harvest email addresses from > websites, address books, or just randomly generate addresses hoping > they'll > be delivered. I've used my email addresses, including this one, openly for the last 20 years (or so). The number of spam emails today is just a very small fraction of those I received in the 90s/00s, with the help of a Spam filtering program on my machine (SpamSieve in my case) I rarely get any spam at all that I see. My guess is that the ISPs are way better at filtering away the spam. = jem
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| From | Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-31 14:01 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.84.1469995297.6033.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #112138 |
On 07/31/2016 10:04 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:53:47 -0400 > "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@Vex.Net> wrote: >> On Mon, 01 Aug 2016 00:25:58 +1000 >> On the other hand I have no throwaway accounts. Every address I use >> is a primary one. I have all sorts of methods to block spam. None of >> those methods involves moving my spam problem to someone else. > > For example... > > <gordon@address.invalid>: Host or domain name not found. Name service > error for name=address.invalid type=AAAA: Host not found > > So I have to examine every address I reply to or deal with the bounce > message later. Way to move your spam problem to someone else. I've never had this problem. I use the mailing list side of things and I reply to the list and I don't have bounce issues. Besides that, he's not using email; he's using usenet which has never required a valid email address, real or fake. To demand he use a real email address is as silly as that guy that lambasts people on this list for not using real names. That said, I wish he'd stop posting his arguments here on this list as he clearly doesn't use Python for anything, and hasn't used Python for any real amount of coding. He has no vested interest in Python so why should his opinions matter to us? As for spam, I hardly think spambots trolling Usenet are as effective these days as they once were. And most people's anti-spam filters are pretty good. Besides that, those of us posting to the mailing list side of things get our real email addresses copied out into Usenet and I haven't noticed any change in spam levels.
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| From | bart4858@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-31 16:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <28fa2205-5d30-4d00-9ab9-b56c66274dd5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #112153 |
On Sunday, 31 July 2016 21:01:52 UTC+1, Michael Torrie wrote: > That said, I wish he'd stop posting his arguments here on this list as > he clearly doesn't use Python for anything, and hasn't used Python for > any real amount of coding. He has no vested interest in Python so why > should his opinions matter to us? What's using Python got to do with it? If I needed to write Python as a job, then I'd just get on with it. I probably wouldn't have time to post on here! I don't so can discuss it from a different perspective. -- bartc
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-08-01 09:49 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.85.1470008996.6033.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #112154 |
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:43 AM, <bart4858@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, 31 July 2016 21:01:52 UTC+1, Michael Torrie wrote: > >> That said, I wish he'd stop posting his arguments here on this list as >> he clearly doesn't use Python for anything, and hasn't used Python for >> any real amount of coding. He has no vested interest in Python so why >> should his opinions matter to us? > > What's using Python got to do with it? If I needed to write Python as a job, then I'd just get on with it. I probably wouldn't have time to post on here! > > I don't so can discuss it from a different perspective. I should get into Parliament and start passing laws about cars. I'd have a valuable perspective on it, since I never drive. ChrisA
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| From | bart4858@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-31 17:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f42a0901-3967-4e62-b9e5-11e6524eb7f1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #112155 |
On Monday, 1 August 2016 00:50:09 UTC+1, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:43 AM, <xxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sunday, 31 July 2016 21:01:52 UTC+1, Michael Torrie wrote: > > > >> That said, I wish he'd stop posting his arguments here on this list as > >> he clearly doesn't use Python for anything, and hasn't used Python for > >> any real amount of coding. He has no vested interest in Python so why > >> should his opinions matter to us? > > > > What's using Python got to do with it? If I needed to write Python as a job, then I'd just get on with it. I probably wouldn't have time to post on here! > > > > I don't so can discuss it from a different perspective. > > I should get into Parliament and start passing laws about cars. I'd > have a valuable perspective on it, since I never drive. Huh? That's exactly what happens! The UK Health Secretary doesn't need to be a doctor; the Chancellor doesn't need an economics degree, etc. However I do 'drive' as I've been programming for decades. And I can have an opinion about a model of car that I don't normally drive. An opinion which you might well not get from someone who drives that model for a living. -- Bartc
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-08-01 10:33 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.87.1470011606.6033.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #112157 |
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:21 AM, <bart4858@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, 1 August 2016 00:50:09 UTC+1, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:43 AM, <xxxx@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Sunday, 31 July 2016 21:01:52 UTC+1, Michael Torrie wrote: >> > >> >> That said, I wish he'd stop posting his arguments here on this list as >> >> he clearly doesn't use Python for anything, and hasn't used Python for >> >> any real amount of coding. He has no vested interest in Python so why >> >> should his opinions matter to us? >> > >> > What's using Python got to do with it? If I needed to write Python as a job, then I'd just get on with it. I probably wouldn't have time to post on here! >> > >> > I don't so can discuss it from a different perspective. >> >> I should get into Parliament and start passing laws about cars. I'd >> have a valuable perspective on it, since I never drive. > > Huh? That's exactly what happens! The UK Health Secretary doesn't need to be a doctor; the Chancellor doesn't need an economics degree, etc. I know. I've watched "Yes Minister" and listened to The Highly Esteemed Goon Show, both of which (being comedy shows) are highly accurate representations of Parliament. > However I do 'drive' as I've been programming for decades. And I can have an opinion about a model of car that I don't normally drive. An opinion which you might well not get from someone who drives that model for a living. > So've I, but I don't try to tell the Scheme folks that they need to change the language. You can have an opinion - but it doesn't make it worth anything. I have opinions about democracy vs monarchy, about bacon vs vegetarianism, about Mac OS vs Windows, and about which Doctor is the best. (Okay, I don't have much of an opinion on the latter, since there are a number of Doctors that I actually haven't at all seen. So sue me.) If I try to use a Mac and spend all my time complaining that it doesn't work the way OS/2 does, will Apple take notice and change their product, or will people just shout me down for not learning to use the device how it was meant to be used? Because that's what's happening here. You're expressing your opinions - and that's fine. But the response is frequently "play to the language's strengths", because you don't understand Python enough to know where to best use its features. ChrisA
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