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  Hello <rubengoodson3@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-11 03:28 +0000
    Re: Hello Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-11 20:49 +1100
      Re: Hello Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-12 10:49 +1100
      Re: Hello alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-03-12 09:54 +0000

#104588 — Hello

From<rubengoodson3@yahoo.com>
Date2016-03-11 03:28 +0000
SubjectHello
Message-ID<mailman.1.1457683475.26429.python-list@python.org>
I am having trouble installing the Python software.






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#104605

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info>
Date2016-03-11 20:49 +1100
Message-ID<56e294bb$0$1605$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#104588
On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 02:28 pm, rubengoodson3@yahoo.com wrote:

> I am having trouble installing the Python software.

Make sure your computer is turned on. I can't tell you how many times I've
tried to install Python, and I type commands and click icons and nothing
happens. It's really frustrating when you finally realise that the reason
nothing is working is because the computer is turned off! (I thought I just
had the screen brightness turned way down.)

If that's not your problem, I'm afraid you'll have to tell us what you
tried, and what results you got. Remember that we're not watching you
install, so we have no idea of what you did. 

What version of Python did you try to install?

Where did it come from? Give us the actual URL, don't just say "from the
website". 

What OS are you running? What version? 32-bit or 64-bit?

How did you install it? What commands did you type?

What happened? Did you get an error message? What did it say? Please COPY
and PASTE any results if you can. Don't post a screen shot, because this
mailing list is also a newsgroup and attachments will be deleted. If you
absolute must use a screen shot, post it to https://imgur.com/



-- 
Steven

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#104659

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info>
Date2016-03-12 10:49 +1100
Message-ID<56e3599e$0$1593$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#104605
On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:53 am, Larry Martell wrote:

> Many years ago (c. 1985) I was at a job interview and the interviewer
> asked me what the first thing I would do when I am presented with a new
> problem that I had to code up. I gave all sorts of answers like 'do a top
> down analysis of the problem,' and 'get the specs and requirements,' and
> 'write a flow chart.' Each time the interviewer said no even before that.
> Finally I said, what, what would do first? He said "Turn the computer on."
> I decided then and there I did not want to work for that guy.


I'm reminded of a wonderful scene from an old movie called "Those
Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines". Set some time in the early 20th
century, before World War 1, it's about an international aeroplane race
across the English Channel. One of the pilots is an Englishman, played by
Terry Thomas, who of course plays a bounder and a cad, so he tries to
sabotage the other contestants so he can win the race. He manages to give
the German pilot an overdose of laxative to put him out of the race.

The German's commanding officer, a great big fat Prussian colonel, decides
that with German discipline and planning anyone can be a pilot, so he takes
the German army Flying Machine instruction manual, climbs into the plane's
cockpit, and standing proudly, opens the book to the first page and reads:

[Hollywood German accent]
"Step One: Sit Down!"





-- 
Steven

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#104682

Fromalister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com>
Date2016-03-12 09:54 +0000
Message-ID<nHREy.1473088$wX5.260689@fx40.am4>
In reply to#104605
On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:53:45 -0500, Larry Martell wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 02:28 pm, rubengoodson3@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> > I am having trouble installing the Python software.
>>
>> Make sure your computer is turned on. I can't tell you how many times
>> I've tried to install Python, and I type commands and click icons and
>> nothing happens. It's really frustrating when you finally realise that
>> the reason nothing is working is because the computer is turned off! (I
>> thought I just had the screen brightness turned way down.)
> 
> 
> Many years ago (c. 1985) I was at a job interview and the interviewer
> asked me what the first thing I would do when I am presented with a new
> problem that I had to code up. I gave all sorts of answers like 'do a
> top down analysis of the problem,' and 'get the specs and requirements,'
> and 'write a flow chart.' Each time the interviewer said no even before
> that. Finally I said, what, what would do first? He said "Turn the
> computer on." I decided then and there I did not want to work for that
> guy.

Then not only was he an arse but he is also wrong.
for a complex problem it is best to have a plan on how to implement it 
before reaching for the keyboard.

Your answer of get the spec & requirements certainly does not need a 
computer (although one could help for note taking if your hand writing is 
as bad as mine).

I guess he was so caught up with his clever catch answer that he did not 
bother to analyse yours & realise he had missed something

"I decided then and there I did not want to work for that guy."

Shame I would have enjoyed reading the results on www.thedailywtf.com :-)

-- 
He who laughs last -- missed the punch line.

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