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  problem on  top-post luofeiyu <elearn2014@gmail.com> - 2014-08-15 09:47 +0800
    Re: problem on top-post John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2014-08-15 03:25 +0000
      Re: problem on top-post Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-08-15 14:17 +1000
        Re: problem on top-post John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2014-08-15 17:29 +0000

#76341 — problem on top-post

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when i search what top-post mean:


*top-post*: n., v.
[common] To put the newly-added portion of an email or Usenet response 
before the quoted part, as opposed to the more logical sequence of 
quoted portion first with original following.
*bottom-post*: v.In a news or mail reply, to put the response to a news 
or email message after the quoted content from the parent message. This 
is correct form, and until around 2000 was so universal on the Internet 
that neither the term ‘bottom-post’ nor its antonym /top-post/ 
<http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html> existed. 
Hackers consider that the best practice is actually to excerpt only the 
relevent portions of the parent message, then intersperse the poster's 
response in such a way that each section of response appears directly 
after the excerpt it applies to. This reduces message bulk, keeps thread 
content in a logical order, and facilitates reading.


the best way is to excerpt only the relevent portions of the parent 
message ,not top-post nor bottom-post , right?

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#76345 — Re: problem on top-post

In <mailman.13017.1408067250.18130.python-list@python.org> luofeiyu <elearn2014@gmail.com> writes:

> the best way is to excerpt only the relevent portions of the parent 
> message ,not top-post nor bottom-post , right?

The followup text appears underneath the quoted parent message, thus
bottom-post.

-- 
John Gordon         Imagine what it must be like for a real medical doctor to
gordon@panix.com    watch 'House', or a real serial killer to watch 'Dexter'.

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#76353 — Re: problem on top-post

John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> writes:

> In <mailman.13017.1408067250.18130.python-list@python.org> luofeiyu <elearn2014@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > the best way is to excerpt only the relevent portions of the parent 
> > message ,not top-post nor bottom-post , right?
>
> The followup text appears underneath the quoted parent message, thus
> bottom-post.

“Bottom-post” usually refers to the inferior practice of quoting a
message (entirely or large amounts) and then indiscriminately responding
to all of it below all of the quoted text.

The preferred style is “interleaved”, where responses are interleaved
among the relevant parts of quoted material. Each response appears below
only the relevant part.

So no, the responses should not appear below the quoted *message*, but
below the relevant *part* of the quoted material, followed potentially
by more relevant quoted material and responses to those.

(We agree that there should be no quoted material after all of your own
responses; if you're not following quoted material with a relevant
response, that part of the quoted material should be removed in your
message.)

With only a small, single point to respond to, the recommended
“interleaved” style is identical to “bottom post” — in this message, for
example.

But “bottom post” is not preferred when there are multiple responses to
multiple points, by one person or several. The “interleaved” style is
the recommended etiquette.

-- 
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  `\            regret that you will be unbearable.” —hotel, Bucharest |
_o__)                                                                  |
Ben Finney

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#76377 — Re: problem on top-post

In <mailman.13027.1408076249.18130.python-list@python.org> Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> writes:

> "Bottom-post" usually refers to the inferior practice of quoting a
> message (entirely or large amounts) and then indiscriminately responding
> to all of it below all of the quoted text.

I was unaware of that meaning.

-- 
John Gordon         Imagine what it must be like for a real medical doctor to
gordon@panix.com    watch 'House', or a real serial killer to watch 'Dexter'.

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