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New VPS Provider needed

Started byΝικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr>
First post2013-08-27 10:13 +0300
Last post2013-08-28 01:01 -0700
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  New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 10:13 +0300
    Re: New VPS Provider needed Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 17:17 +1000
    Re: New VPS Provider needed Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 18:12 +1000
      Re: New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 11:45 +0300
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 19:06 +1000
          Re: New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 12:32 +0300
            Re: New VPS Provider needed Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 19:38 +1000
              Re: New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 13:00 +0300
                Re: New VPS Provider needed Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-08-27 12:26 +0200
                  Re: New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 13:37 +0300
            Re: New VPS Provider needed Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 05:50 -0400
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-27 14:25 +0000
          Re: New VPS Provider needed Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-08-28 00:41 +1000
            Re: New VPS Provider needed Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-27 16:18 +0000
              Re: New VPS Provider needed Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-08-27 18:46 +0000
                Re: New VPS Provider needed Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-08-27 15:27 -0400
              Re: New VPS Provider needed Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-08-28 09:19 +0200
                Re: New VPS Provider needed Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-28 11:25 +0000
                  Re: New VPS Provider needed Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-08-28 14:37 +0200
          Re: New VPS Provider needed Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 18:13 +0300
    Re: New VPS Provider needed David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 21:18 +1000
      Re: New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 14:21 +0300
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-08-27 08:25 -0400
          Re: New VPS Provider needed Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 15:47 +0300
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2013-08-27 13:43 +0200
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-08-27 13:39 +0200
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-08-27 07:55 -0500
        Re: New VPS Provider needed MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-08-27 14:22 +0100
      Re: New VPS Provider needed Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-08-27 12:41 +0000
      Re: New VPS Provider needed Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-27 16:25 +0000
        Re: New VPS Provider needed Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-27 19:40 +0300
          Re: New VPS Provider needed Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-27 17:17 +0000
            Re: New VPS Provider needed Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-08-28 01:01 -0700

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#53033 — New VPS Provider needed

FromΝικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr>
Date2013-08-27 10:13 +0300
SubjectNew VPS Provider needed
Message-ID<kvhji0$631$1@news.grnet.gr>
I know this isn't the place to ask but since most of you are web 
programmers also, you possibly do hosting too.


Problem is also that i made the mistake of paying my current provider up 
until 5/5/2014

I had nothing but trouble with them and they wont refund back.
I lost 4 customers, good websites due to their inability.

I can even provide proof for what i paid and for the period iam writing 
5/5/14

So, no refunds back and 4 customers left me these days because of 
constant issues with them.

So, if someone want to help me out it would be nice if he could provide 
me with services free of charge for that time period, or at least at the 
end of they year.

Please someone help me out to this and then i will be his devoted customer.


This is my need:

1. I will pay for a full year upfront but it must be a low price for the 
1st year, because i have already paid them and cant get my money back to 
use it to the new com opany.
2. cPanel/WHM && Softaculous Licenses must be moved from them to the new 
VPS provider
3. Tranfer of the current 6 websites free of charge and assure that they 
work properly after transfers(they are joomlas and 2 dreamweavers)
4. Some help over the road when i need somthign to be installed like a 
new python version and a couple of modules.


-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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#53034

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2013-08-27 17:17 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.256.1377589212.19984.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#53033
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
> So, if someone want to help me out it would be nice if he could provide me
> with services free of charge for that time period, or at least at the end of
> they year.

Are we allowed to go peeking at all your customers' private/personal data again?

ChrisA

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#53037

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2013-08-27 18:12 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.259.1377591197.19984.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#53033
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>> So, if someone want to help me out it would be nice if he could provide me
>> with services free of charge for that time period, or at least at the end of
>> they year.
>
> Are we allowed to go peeking at all your customers' private/personal data again?
>
> ChrisA

And once again Nikos demonstrates a significant lack of comprehension
of trust. In private messages to me he implies that I am joking in the
above; while this is partly true, it is also a completely serious
comment.

ChrisA

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#53038

FromΝικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr>
Date2013-08-27 11:45 +0300
Message-ID<kvhouo$o5q$2@news.grnet.gr>
In reply to#53037
Στις 27/8/2013 11:12 πμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:13 PM, �������� <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>> So, if someone want to help me out it would be nice if he could provide me
>>> with services free of charge for that time period, or at least at the end of
>>> they year.
>>
>> Are we allowed to go peeking at all your customers' private/personal data again?
>>
>> ChrisA
>
> And once again Nikos demonstrates a significant lack of comprehension
> of trust. In private messages to me he implies that I am joking in the
> above; while this is partly true, it is also a completely serious
> comment.
>
> ChrisA
>

Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers becaue 
the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.

The last thing i need is Chris Angelico making fun out of this

So, knock it off.
-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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#53039

FromTim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com>
Date2013-08-27 19:06 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.260.1377594739.19984.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#53038

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On 27 August 2013 18:45, Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:

>
> Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers becaue
> the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
>

Given your posting history in this newsgroup/mailing list, I wouldn't be so
sure that the problem is on your VPS provider's end.

Tim Delaney

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#53044

FromΝικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr>
Date2013-08-27 12:32 +0300
Message-ID<kvhrn1$9mg$1@news.grnet.gr>
In reply to#53039
Στις 27/8/2013 12:06 μμ, ο/η Tim Delaney έγραψε:
> On 27 August 2013 18:45, Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr
> <mailto:nikos@superhost.gr>> wrote:
>
>
>     Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers
>     becaue the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
>
> Given your posting history in this newsgroup/mailing list, I wouldn't be
> so sure that the problem is on your VPS provider's end.
>
> Tim Delaney

It is not a python issue here, it is wrong VPS setup by them, mails fail 
to work, quota issues, cannot migrate webistes from preblematic VPS to 
new VPS

check for example

varsa.gr how it lloks after their migration.

-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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#53046

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2013-08-27 19:38 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.262.1377596335.19984.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#53044
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
> Στις 27/8/2013 12:06 μμ, ο/η Tim Delaney έγραψε:
>>
>> On 27 August 2013 18:45, Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr
>> <mailto:nikos@superhost.gr>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers
>>     becaue the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
>>
>> Given your posting history in this newsgroup/mailing list, I wouldn't be
>> so sure that the problem is on your VPS provider's end.
>>
>> Tim Delaney
>
>
> It is not a python issue here, it is wrong VPS setup by them, mails fail to
> work, quota issues, cannot migrate webistes from preblematic VPS to new VPS
>
> check for example
>
> varsa.gr how it lloks after their migration.

So...

1) Your host makes a change
2) You have no clue what that change has done
2a) Even though anyone who knows a bit of PHP (and I have to confess
that includes me) will be able to tell at a glance what's going on,
from that page.
3) You blame your host.
4) You ask python-list for some free web hosting
5) You then do not understand that, if one of us offers his server to
you, there is a massive trust issue.
6) You have no clue.

Deny that if you will! And deny also that you are the SHROPSHIRE SLASHER!

ChrisA

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#53048

FromΝικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr>
Date2013-08-27 13:00 +0300
Message-ID<kvhtcf$9mg$2@news.grnet.gr>
In reply to#53046
Στις 27/8/2013 12:38 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:32 PM, �������� <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>> ���� 27/8/2013 12:06 ��, �/� Tim Delaney ������:
>>>
>>> On 27 August 2013 18:45, �������� <nikos@superhost.gr
>>> <mailto:nikos@superhost.gr>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers
>>>      becaue the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
>>>
>>> Given your posting history in this newsgroup/mailing list, I wouldn't be
>>> so sure that the problem is on your VPS provider's end.
>>>
>>> Tim Delaney
>>
>>
>> It is not a python issue here, it is wrong VPS setup by them, mails fail to
>> work, quota issues, cannot migrate webistes from preblematic VPS to new VPS
>>
>> check for example
>>
>> varsa.gr how it lloks after their migration.
>
> So...
>
> 1) Your host makes a change
> 2) You have no clue what that change has done
> 2a) Even though anyone who knows a bit of PHP (and I have to confess
> that includes me) will be able to tell at a glance what's going on,
> from that page.
> 3) You blame your host.
> 4) You ask python-list for some free web hosting
> 5) You then do not understand that, if one of us offers his server to
> you, there is a massive trust issue.
> 6) You have no clue.
>
> Deny that if you will! And deny also that you are the SHROPSHIRE SLASHER!
>
> ChrisA
>

When the VPS Provider makes a change and move me form an old vPD to a 
new one they should assure all work as expected. They dont bother ven 
replying. ven my mail dont owrk as expected.
And the task for handlign php or altering complex linux configurations 
is up to them not to me that why i pay pay for a managed VPS.
They cannot ven install 'pymysql' and 'pyfeoip' properly so superhost.gr 
will run as intended and not give internal servers errors let alone the 
faulty migrtaion of joomla's varsa.gr and other weird php errors.

Will you continue to blame me or propose an alternative?

-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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#53051

FromAntoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be>
Date2013-08-27 12:26 +0200
Message-ID<mailman.264.1377599199.19984.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#53048
Op 27-08-13 12:00, Νικόλαος schreef:
> Στις 27/8/2013 12:38 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε:
>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:32 PM, �������� <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>> ���� 27/8/2013 12:06 ��, �/� Tim Delaney ������:
>>>>
>>>> On 27 August 2013 18:45, �������� <nikos@superhost.gr
>>>> <mailto:nikos@superhost.gr>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers
>>>>      becaue the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
>>>>
>>>> Given your posting history in this newsgroup/mailing list, I
>>>> wouldn't be
>>>> so sure that the problem is on your VPS provider's end.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Delaney
>>>
>>>
>>> It is not a python issue here, it is wrong VPS setup by them, mails
>>> fail to
>>> work, quota issues, cannot migrate webistes from preblematic VPS to
>>> new VPS
>>>
>>> check for example
>>>
>>> varsa.gr how it lloks after their migration.
>>
>> So...
>>
>> 1) Your host makes a change
>> 2) You have no clue what that change has done
>> 2a) Even though anyone who knows a bit of PHP (and I have to confess
>> that includes me) will be able to tell at a glance what's going on,
>> from that page.
>> 3) You blame your host.
>> 4) You ask python-list for some free web hosting
>> 5) You then do not understand that, if one of us offers his server to
>> you, there is a massive trust issue.
>> 6) You have no clue.
>>
>> Deny that if you will! And deny also that you are the SHROPSHIRE SLASHER!
>>
>> ChrisA
>>
> 
> When the VPS Provider makes a change and move me form an old vPD to a
> new one they should assure all work as expected.

Maybe it does. It is possible your website depended on undocumented
features and that one of those features is no longer available. So
your website works as expected.

> They dont bother ven
> replying. ven my mail dont owrk as expected.
> And the task for handlign php or altering complex linux configurations
> is up to them not to me that why i pay pay for a managed VPS.
> They cannot ven install 'pymysql' and 'pyfeoip' properly so superhost.gr
> will run as intended and not give internal servers errors let alone the
> faulty migrtaion of joomla's varsa.gr and other weird php errors.
> 
> Will you continue to blame me or propose an alternative?
> 

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#53052

FromΝικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr>
Date2013-08-27 13:37 +0300
Message-ID<kvhvhm$9mg$3@news.grnet.gr>
In reply to#53051
Στις 27/8/2013 1:26 μμ, ο/η Antoon Pardon έγραψε:
> Maybe it does. It is possible your website depended on undocumented
> features and that one of those features is no longer available. So
> your website works as expected.

This is not the case here. No fancy modules.

in the old VPS varsa.gr was working well. They just had other issues there.

Sicne it was working in the old VPS they should migrate and configure 
appropriately the new VPS top work well there too.

-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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#53047

FromJoel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com>
Date2013-08-27 05:50 -0400
Message-ID<mailman.263.1377597572.19984.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#53044
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>> Στις 27/8/2013 12:06 μμ, ο/η Tim Delaney έγραψε:
>>>
>>> On 27 August 2013 18:45, Νικόλαος <nikos@superhost.gr
>>> <mailto:nikos@superhost.gr>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers
>>>     becaue the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
>>>
>>> Given your posting history in this newsgroup/mailing list, I wouldn't be
>>> so sure that the problem is on your VPS provider's end.
>>>
>>> Tim Delaney
>>
>>
>> It is not a python issue here, it is wrong VPS setup by them, mails fail to
>> work, quota issues, cannot migrate webistes from preblematic VPS to new VPS
>>
>> check for example
>>
>> varsa.gr how it lloks after their migration.
>
> So...
>
> 1) Your host makes a change
> 2) You have no clue what that change has done
> 2a) Even though anyone who knows a bit of PHP (and I have to confess
> that includes me) will be able to tell at a glance what's going on,
> from that page.
> 3) You blame your host.
> 4) You ask python-list for some free web hosting
> 5) You then do not understand that, if one of us offers his server to
> you, there is a massive trust issue.
> 6) You have no clue.
>
> Deny that if you will! And deny also that you are the SHROPSHIRE SLASHER!
>
> ChrisA
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Michael Corleone: Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.



-- 
Joel Goldstick
http://joelgoldstick.com

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#53069

FromGrant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2013-08-27 14:25 +0000
Message-ID<kvicti$3df$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#53038
On 2013-08-27, ???????????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:

> Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers becaue 
> the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.

Perhaps he's also having problems with a faulty keyboard.

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! They collapsed
                                  at               ... like nuns in the
                              gmail.com            street ... they had no
                                                   teen appeal!

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#53070

FromChris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Date2013-08-28 00:41 +1000
Message-ID<mailman.273.1377614485.19984.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#53069
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 2013-08-27, ???????????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>
>> Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers becaue
>> the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
>
> Perhaps he's also having problems with a faulty keyboard.

Just a faulty key actuator, I think. Nothing unusual in this world.

ChrisA

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#53075

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
Date2013-08-27 16:18 +0000
Message-ID<521cd171$0$29986$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#53070
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:41:17 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Grant Edwards
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2013-08-27, ???????????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>
>>> Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers
>>> becaue the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
>>
>> Perhaps he's also having problems with a faulty keyboard.
> 
> Just a faulty key actuator, I think. Nothing unusual in this world.


Guys, PLEASE stop baiting Nikos with snide remarks. It makes this a very 
unpleasant environment, and sets the tone of the community, badly.


-- 
Steven

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#53083

FromNeil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu>
Date2013-08-27 18:46 +0000
Message-ID<b84agqFtha3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#53075
On 2013-08-27, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:41:17 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Grant Edwards
>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2013-08-27, ???????????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers
>>>> becaue the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
>>>
>>> Perhaps he's also having problems with a faulty keyboard.
>> 
>> Just a faulty key actuator, I think. Nothing unusual in this world.
>
> Guys, PLEASE stop baiting Nikos with snide remarks. It makes
> this a very unpleasant environment, and sets the tone of the
> community, badly.

I limit myself to one snide remark every time he escapes my
killfile. 'Cause I wish he would stop.

-- 
Neil Cerutti

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#53091

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com>
Date2013-08-27 15:27 -0400
Message-ID<mailman.282.1377634969.19984.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#53083
On Tuesday 27 August 2013 15:26:30 Neil Cerutti did opine:

> On 2013-08-27, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> 
wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:41:17 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Grant Edwards
> >> 
> >> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>> On 2013-08-27, ???????????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
> >>>> Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers
> >>>> becaue the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
> >>> 
> >>> Perhaps he's also having problems with a faulty keyboard.
> >> 
> >> Just a faulty key actuator, I think. Nothing unusual in this world.
> > 
> > Guys, PLEASE stop baiting Nikos with snide remarks. It makes
> > this a very unpleasant environment, and sets the tone of the
> > community, badly.
> 
> I limit myself to one snide remark every time he escapes my
> killfile. 'Cause I wish he would stop.

He hasn't escaped from mine yet, but all this backsplatter is unbecoming.

Cheers, Gene
-- 
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My views 
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#53112

FromAntoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be>
Date2013-08-28 09:19 +0200
Message-ID<mailman.290.1377674382.19984.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#53075
Op 27-08-13 18:18, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:41:17 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Grant Edwards
>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2013-08-27, ???????????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers
>>>> becaue the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
>>>
>>> Perhaps he's also having problems with a faulty keyboard.
>>
>> Just a faulty key actuator, I think. Nothing unusual in this world.
> 
> 
> Guys, PLEASE stop baiting Nikos with snide remarks. It makes this a very 
> unpleasant environment, and sets the tone of the community, badly.

Why don't you tell Nikos he should stop baiting the list with off topic
requestsm like whether someone is willing to provide him free hosting?

I also think you are over reacting. One thread where people come with
snide remarks doesn't turn the whole newsgroup/mailinglist into an
unpleasant environment.

-- 
Antoon Pardon

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#53130

FromSteven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
Date2013-08-28 11:25 +0000
Message-ID<521dde1e$0$6599$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#53112
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:19:40 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:

> Op 27-08-13 18:18, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:41:17 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Grant Edwards
>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2013-08-27, ???????????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers
>>>>> becaue the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps he's also having problems with a faulty keyboard.
>>>
>>> Just a faulty key actuator, I think. Nothing unusual in this world.
>> 
>> 
>> Guys, PLEASE stop baiting Nikos with snide remarks. It makes this a
>> very unpleasant environment, and sets the tone of the community, badly.
> 
> Why don't you tell Nikos he should stop baiting the list with off topic
> requestsm like whether someone is willing to provide him free hosting?

I quote:

    1. I will pay for a full year upfront but it must be a low price 
    for the 1st year, because i have already paid them and cant get my
    money back to use it to the new com opany.

I get it. You don't like Nikos. I'm not suggesting you should. But 
misrepresenting him is Not Cool. He has offered to pay.

Besides, Python-friendly web hosting is not off-topic. Plenty of people 
have asked for recommendations on hosting providers that support Python 
before.


> I also think you are over reacting. One thread where people come with
> snide remarks doesn't turn the whole newsgroup/mailinglist into an
> unpleasant environment.

My wife often tells me it is a miracle that I don't forget my own name, 
but even my memory is not so bad as to forget just how unpleasant and 
hostile this list became a month or so ago when a whole bunch of people 
decided to drive Nikos away, and he decided to fight back.


-- 
Steven

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#53145

FromAntoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be>
Date2013-08-28 14:37 +0200
Message-ID<mailman.307.1377693441.19984.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#53130
Op 28-08-13 13:25, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:19:40 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> 
>> Op 27-08-13 18:18, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:41:17 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Grant Edwards
>>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 2013-08-27, ???????????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers
>>>>>> becaue the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps he's also having problems with a faulty keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> Just a faulty key actuator, I think. Nothing unusual in this world.
>>>
>>>
>>> Guys, PLEASE stop baiting Nikos with snide remarks. It makes this a
>>> very unpleasant environment, and sets the tone of the community, badly.
>>
>> Why don't you tell Nikos he should stop baiting the list with off topic
>> requestsm like whether someone is willing to provide him free hosting?
> 
> I quote:
> 
>     1. I will pay for a full year upfront but it must be a low price 
>     for the 1st year, because i have already paid them and cant get my
>     money back to use it to the new com opany.

You are quoting selectively.

> I get it. You don't like Nikos. I'm not suggesting you should. But 
> misrepresenting him is Not Cool. He has offered to pay.

IMO you are misrepresenting by quoting selectively. This from earlier
in that same post:

| So, if someone want to help me out it would be nice if he could
| provide me with services free of charge for that time period, or at
| least at the end of they year.

That he offered to pay, doesn't contradict his primary request is for
services free of charge.

> Besides, Python-friendly web hosting is not off-topic. Plenty of people 
> have asked for recommendations on hosting providers that support Python 
> before.

He didn't ask for people experiences with various hosting providers. He
was asking people here to provide hosting services for him.

>> I also think you are over reacting. One thread where people come with
>> snide remarks doesn't turn the whole newsgroup/mailinglist into an
>> unpleasant environment.
> 
> My wife often tells me it is a miracle that I don't forget my own name, 
> but even my memory is not so bad as to forget just how unpleasant and 
> hostile this list became a month or so ago when a whole bunch of people 
> decided to drive Nikos away, and he decided to fight back.

This list didn't became unpleasand and hostile. The hostility was
contained to a few threads. It was easy enough to avoid the hostility
if that was important enough to you.

I also find your reporting on the facts misleading. People didn't just
decide to drive Nikos away. People were getting fed up with the ongoing
annoying behaviour of Nikos. It wasn't Nikos who decided to fight back,
it were the people who had enough of Nikos's inconsiderate behaviour
who decided to fight back.

-- 
Antoon Pardon

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#53073

FromFerrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr>
Date2013-08-27 18:13 +0300
Message-ID<kvifmc$drv$3@news.grnet.gr>
In reply to#53069
Στις 27/8/2013 5:25 μμ, ο/η Grant Edwards έγραψε:
> On 2013-08-27, ???????????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>
>> Iam having major issues with my VPS provider and losign customers becaue
>> the provider doesnt set thign u[ cprrectly.
>
> Perhaps he's also having problems with a faulty keyboard.
>

Perhaps....
Then perhaps its just you faulty head understanding my typing.

-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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