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Re: Python for philosophers

Started byNed Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com>
First post2013-05-15 21:01 -0400
Last post2013-05-16 12:50 -0500
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  Re: Python for philosophers Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-05-15 21:01 -0400
    Re: Python for philosophers Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-05-15 20:17 -0500
      Re: Python for philosophers Terry Jan Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-05-15 23:43 -0400
        Re: Python for philosophers Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-05-15 23:57 -0500
      Re: Python for philosophers alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 21:49 -0700
        Re: Python for philosophers Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-05-15 23:55 -0500
      Re: Python for philosophers rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 22:08 -0700
      Re: Python for philosophers Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2013-05-16 01:24 -0500
      Re: Python for philosophers Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-16 14:27 +0000
        Re: Python for philosophers Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-05-16 12:50 -0500

#45384 — Re: Python for philosophers

FromNed Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com>
Date2013-05-15 21:01 -0400
SubjectRe: Python for philosophers
Message-ID<mailman.1728.1368666100.3114.python-list@python.org>
On 5/11/2013 4:03 PM, Citizen Kant wrote:
> Don't get me wrong. I can see the big picture and the amazing things 
> that programmers write on Python, it's just that my question points to 
> the lowest level of it's existence.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.  Python is a tool, it does what you 
tell it.  To make an analogy, or maybe to clarify your philosophical 
view of the world, consider a hammer.  What is the "lowest level of its 
existence"?

--Ned.

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#45386

FromTim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com>
Date2013-05-15 20:17 -0500
Message-ID<vlod6a-2kr1.ln1@ozzie.tundraware.com>
In reply to#45384
On 05/15/2013 08:01 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 5/11/2013 4:03 PM, Citizen Kant wrote:
>> Don't get me wrong. I can see the big picture and the amazing things that programmers write on Python, it's just that my question points to the lowest level of it's existence.
>
> Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.  Python is a tool, it does what you tell it.  To make an analogy, or maybe to clarify your philosophical view of the world, consider a hammer.  What is the "lowest level of its existence"?
>
> --Ned.

All You People are making this way too hard.  To understand how
questions like the OPs ought be resolved, please read:

    http://pvspade.com/Sartre/cookbook.html




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#45391

FromTerry Jan Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Date2013-05-15 23:43 -0400
Message-ID<mailman.1731.1368675801.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#45386
On 5/15/2013 9:17 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:

>     http://pvspade.com/Sartre/cookbook.html

Wikedly funny.

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#45397

FromTim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com>
Date2013-05-15 23:57 -0500
Message-ID<vi5e6a-2kr1.ln1@ozzie.tundraware.com>
In reply to#45391
On 05/15/2013 10:43 PM, Terry Jan Reedy wrote:
> On 5/15/2013 9:17 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>
>>     http://pvspade.com/Sartre/cookbook.html
>
> Wikedly funny.
>
>

"Today I made a Black Forest cake out of five pounds of cherries and a live beaver,"

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#45394

Fromalex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com>
Date2013-05-15 21:49 -0700
Message-ID<8f0d57d5-e68e-4de0-bb61-a5dbfa9edeea@ys5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#45386
On May 16, 11:17 am, Tim Daneliuk <tun...@tundraware.com> wrote:
>    http://pvspade.com/Sartre/cookbook.html

Best recipe for tuna casserole ever! Cheers for this :)

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#45396

FromTim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com>
Date2013-05-15 23:55 -0500
Message-ID<519466C9.5070306@tundraware.com>
In reply to#45394
On 05/15/2013 11:49 PM, alex23 wrote:
> On May 16, 11:17 am, Tim Daneliuk <tun...@tundraware.com> wrote:
>>     http://pvspade.com/Sartre/cookbook.html
>
> Best recipe for tuna casserole ever! Cheers for this :)
>

"I have have realized that the traditional omelet form (eggs and cheese) is bourgeois."



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#45398

Fromrusi <rustompmody@gmail.com>
Date2013-05-15 22:08 -0700
Message-ID<b687c34a-e938-43f2-82c0-c4c20a3ce2cd@ul7g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#45386
On May 16, 6:17 am, Tim Daneliuk <tun...@tundraware.com> wrote:
> On 05/15/2013 08:01 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
>
> > On 5/11/2013 4:03 PM, Citizen Kant wrote:
> >> Don't get me wrong. I can see the big picture and the amazing things that programmers write on Python, it's just that my question points to the lowest level of it's existence.
>
> > Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.  Python is a tool, it does what you tell it.  To make an analogy, or maybe to clarify your philosophical view of the world, consider a hammer.  What is the "lowest level of its existence"?
>
> > --Ned.
>
> All You People are making this way too hard.  To understand how
> questions like the OPs ought be resolved, please read:
>
>    http://pvspade.com/Sartre/cookbook.html

Ha Ha! Very funny!
Also a serious reminder of what philosophy tends to become.
[Robert Pirsig wrote about the diff between philosophy and
philosophology]

>
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> Tim Daneliuk     tun...@tundraware.com
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#45404

FromAndrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com>
Date2013-05-16 01:24 -0500
Message-ID<mailman.1736.1368685470.3114.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#45386
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> All You People are making this way too hard.  To understand how
> questions like the OPs ought be resolved, please read:
> 
>     http://pvspade.com/Sartre/cookbook.html

On this list, I would expect a Sartre reference to be something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crIJvcWkVcs

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#45425

FromGrant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2013-05-16 14:27 +0000
Message-ID<kn2qbr$do4$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#45386
On 2013-05-16, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> wrote:
> On 05/15/2013 08:01 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
>> On 5/11/2013 4:03 PM, Citizen Kant wrote:
>>> Don't get me wrong. I can see the big picture and the amazing things that programmers write on Python, it's just that my question points to the lowest level of it's existence.
>>
>> Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.  Python is a tool, it does what you tell it.  To make an analogy, or maybe to clarify your philosophical view of the world, consider a hammer.  What is the "lowest level of its existence"?
>>
>> --Ned.
>
> All You People are making this way too hard.  To understand how
> questions like the OPs ought be resolved, please read:
>
>     http://pvspade.com/Sartre/cookbook.html

Yea, I've decided we're being trolled...

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! I'd like MY data-base
                                  at               JULIENNED and stir-fried!
                              gmail.com

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#45441

FromTim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com>
Date2013-05-16 12:50 -0500
Message-ID<ksif6a-r7v1.ln1@ozzie.tundraware.com>
In reply to#45425
On 05/16/2013 09:27 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2013-05-16, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> wrote:
>> On 05/15/2013 08:01 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
>>> On 5/11/2013 4:03 PM, Citizen Kant wrote:
>>>> Don't get me wrong. I can see the big picture and the amazing things that programmers write on Python, it's just that my question points to the lowest level of it's existence.
>>>
>>> Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.  Python is a tool, it does what you tell it.  To make an analogy, or maybe to clarify your philosophical view of the world, consider a hammer.  What is the "lowest level of its existence"?
>>>
>>> --Ned.
>>
>> All You People are making this way too hard.  To understand how
>> questions like the OPs ought be resolved, please read:
>>
>>      http://pvspade.com/Sartre/cookbook.html
>
> Yea, I've decided we're being trolled...
>

   " I want to create an omelet that expresses the meaninglessness of existence,
     and instead they taste like cheese. "

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