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  Re: Preventing crap email from google? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2012-10-19 21:35 -0600
    Re: Preventing crap email from google? rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-10-20 00:33 -0700
    Re: Preventing crap email from google? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-10-20 08:52 +0000
    Re: Preventing crap email from google? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-10-20 14:20 +0000
      Re: Preventing crap email from google? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-10-22 13:51 +1100
        Re: Preventing crap email from google? Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> - 2012-10-22 13:05 +0000
          Re: Preventing crap email from google? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-10-22 14:21 +0000
            Re: Preventing crap email from google? HoneyMonster <nobody@someplace.invalid> - 2012-10-22 14:35 +0000
              Re: Preventing crap email from google? Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> - 2012-10-22 14:43 +0000
            Re: Preventing crap email from google? "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net> - 2012-10-22 10:49 -0400
          Re: Preventing crap email from google? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-10-23 08:59 +1100

#31792 — Re: Preventing crap email from google?

On 10/19/2012 06:43 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> Good morning/afternoon/evening all,
> 
> Is there any possibility that we could find a way to prevent the double 
> spaced rubbish that comes from G$ infiltrating this ng/ml?  For example, 
> does Python have anybody who works for G$ who could pull a few strings, 
> preferably a Dutch national who has named a quite well known programming 
> language after a humorous BBC television programme?

I don't know what G$ is, but from your subject, I assume you are
complaining about posts from gmail users, of which I am one.  However my
messages have never been double-spaced.  And I haven't noticed any
recently either.  I just checked and the last dozen or so posts from
gmail accounts don't appear to have any problems.

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#31797

On Oct 20, 8:35 am, Michael Torrie <torr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/19/2012 06:43 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
> > Good morning/afternoon/evening all,
>
> > Is there any possibility that we could find a way to prevent the double
> > spaced rubbish that comes from G$ infiltrating this ng/ml?  For example,
> > does Python have anybody who works for G$ who could pull a few strings,
> > preferably a Dutch national who has named a quite well known programming
> > language after a humorous BBC television programme?
>
> I don't know what G$ is, but from your subject, I assume you are
> complaining about posts from gmail users, of which I am one.  However my
> messages have never been double-spaced.  And I haven't noticed any
> recently either.  I just checked and the last dozen or so posts from
> gmail accounts don't appear to have any problems.

Heres something that has worked so far:
Login to gmail
Login to googlegroups in another tab
Logout of gmail
Reload the groups page -- your name which was on the left corner
should be replaced by a sign-in
And a 'wheel'
The wheel should give you a choice for 'old' (aka non-buggy) interface

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#31801

On Sat, 2012-10-20, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 10/19/2012 06:43 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>> Good morning/afternoon/evening all,
>> 
>> Is there any possibility that we could find a way to prevent the double 
>> spaced rubbish that comes from G$ infiltrating this ng/ml?  For example, 
>> does Python have anybody who works for G$ who could pull a few strings, 
>> preferably a Dutch national who has named a quite well known programming 
>> language after a humorous BBC television programme?
>
> I don't know what G$ is, but from your subject, I assume you are
> complaining about posts from gmail users, of which I am one.  However my
> messages have never been double-spaced.  And I haven't noticed any
> recently either.  I just checked and the last dozen or so posts from
> gmail accounts don't appear to have any problems.

He's probably talking about Google Groups and its "integration" with
Usenet. (I'm seeing this as the comp.lang.python newsgroup, via a real
news reader and a real Usenet provider.  I am vaguely aware that it's
also a mailing list.)

Google Groups has a long history of creating broken Usenet postings in
new and exciting ways.  It's at least as bad as MS Outlook Express and
AOL were in Usenet's past.

Your own posting (or mail) is almost flawless: correct quoting, and a
properly formatted response.  But you seem to be using gmail and the
mailing list interface; that's not the technology he's complaining
about.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#31814

On 2012-10-20, Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/19/2012 06:43 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>> Good morning/afternoon/evening all,
>> 
>> Is there any possibility that we could find a way to prevent the double 
>> spaced rubbish that comes from G$ infiltrating this ng/ml?  For example, 
>> does Python have anybody who works for G$ who could pull a few strings, 
>> preferably a Dutch national who has named a quite well known programming 
>> language after a humorous BBC television programme?
>
> I don't know what G$ is, but from your subject, I assume you are
> complaining about posts from gmail users, of which I am one.

Postings from gmail users aren't a problem.  Posts made via the
google-groups web site are a problem, and I plonked them all years and
years ago...

-- 
Grant

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#31876

Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:

> Posts made via the google-groups web site are a problem, and I plonked
> them all years and years ago...

Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> writes:

> It is Google bloody Groups which is the problem. I should have plonked 
> posts from there ages ago, and am about to remedy that omission.

What narrowly-defined, precise filter rule should be used for this
purpose?

-- 
 \      “Nothing is more sacred than the facts.” —Sam Harris, _The End |
  `\                                                   of Faith_, 2004 |
_o__)                                                                  |
Ben Finney

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#31882

On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:51:35 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:

> Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> writes:
> 
>> It is Google bloody Groups which is the problem. I should have plonked
>> posts from there ages ago, and am about to remedy that omission.
> 
> What narrowly-defined, precise filter rule should be used for this
> purpose?

Depends on how you read the list, I think. In my case, via Usenet 
(comp.lang.python) with Pan, so I shall filter on "googlegroups.com" in 
the Message-ID.

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#31887

On 2012-10-22, Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:51:35 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
>
>> Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> writes:
>> 
>>> It is Google bloody Groups which is the problem. I should have plonked
>>> posts from there ages ago, and am about to remedy that omission.
>> 
>> What narrowly-defined, precise filter rule should be used for this
>> purpose?
>
> Depends on how you read the list, I think. In my case, via Usenet 
> (comp.lang.python) with Pan, so I shall filter on "googlegroups.com" in 
> the Message-ID.

Same here.  Here's the rule I have in slrn's .score file:

Score:: =-9999
 Message-ID: .*googlegroups.com

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! Where does it go when
                                  at               you flush?
                              gmail.com            

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#31888

On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:21:36 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:

> On 2012-10-22, Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:51:35 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
>>
>>> Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> writes:
>>> 
>>>> It is Google bloody Groups which is the problem. I should have
>>>> plonked posts from there ages ago, and am about to remedy that
>>>> omission.
>>> 
>>> What narrowly-defined, precise filter rule should be used for this
>>> purpose?
>>
>> Depends on how you read the list, I think. In my case, via Usenet
>> (comp.lang.python) with Pan, so I shall filter on "googlegroups.com" in
>> the Message-ID.
> 
> Same here.  Here's the rule I have in slrn's .score file:
> 
> Score:: =-9999
>  Message-ID: .*googlegroups.com

Actually I don't think the asterisk is necessay*. OTOH, I noticed that 
some are "To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com", so I put in a second 
rule:

Score:: =-9999
Message-ID: googlegroups\.com

Score:: =-9999
To: googlegroups\.com

* Or maybe the sytax differs slightly between slrn and Pan.

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#31889

On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:35:58 +0000, HoneyMonster wrote:

<snip>

Sorry about the moniker on the above. I used it by accident - it's one I 
reserve for junk trapping.

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#31891

On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:21:36 +0000 (UTC)
Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Same here.  Here's the rule I have in slrn's .score file:

Here is the procmail one that I use:

:0 Hir
* ^List-Id:.*python-list.python.org
* ^From:.*@gmail.com
* ^Newsgroups:
/dev/null

This still allows people using a gmail account to post to the mailing
list through.

-- 
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http://www.druid.net/darcy/                |  and a sheep voting on
+1 416 425 1212     (DoD#0082)    (eNTP)   |  what's for dinner.
IM: darcy@Vex.Net

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#31905

Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> writes:

> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:51:35 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> writes:
> >> It is Google bloody Groups which is the problem. I should have
> >> plonked posts from there ages ago, and am about to remedy that
> >> omission.
> > 
> > What narrowly-defined, precise filter rule should be used for this
> > purpose?
>
> Depends on how you read the list, I think. In my case, via Usenet
> (comp.lang.python) with Pan, so I shall filter on "googlegroups.com"
> in the Message-ID.

The Message-ID field seems to be preserved in both directions, so I'll
use that. Thank you.

-- 
 \         “I call him Governor Bush because that's the only political |
  `\              office he's ever held legally.” —George Carlin, 2008 |
_o__)                                                                  |
Ben Finney

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