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  Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-18 10:06 -0800
    Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-18 10:10 -0800
    Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) Tony the Tiger <tony@tiger.invalid> - 2011-11-18 15:25 -0600
    Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-11-18 23:44 +0000
      Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-18 16:31 -0800
        Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-18 16:50 -0800
          Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-11-19 01:22 +0000
            Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-18 21:03 -0800
              Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-18 21:28 -0800
              Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-11-19 05:39 -0500
                Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-19 07:35 -0800
        Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-11-19 04:36 +0000
      Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-11-19 05:34 -0500
        Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-19 07:39 -0800
    Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> - 2011-11-20 00:51 +1100
      Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-19 08:14 -0800
      Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-19 08:18 -0800
    Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2011-11-23 11:19 +0200
      Python 2.7.2 on XP "Alemu Tadesse" <atadesse@sunedison.com> - 2011-11-23 09:40 -0600
        Re: Python 2.7.2 on XP John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-11-23 16:11 +0000
      Re: Python 2.7.2 on XP MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-11-23 19:00 +0000
      RE: Python 2.7.2 on XP "Alemu Tadesse" <atadesse@sunedison.com> - 2011-11-23 13:02 -0600
        Re: Python 2.7.2 on XP John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-11-23 19:11 +0000

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#15914 — Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 
flop the same way under Win 7.

One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of 
2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you 
right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?

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#15915

On 11/18/2011 10:06 AM, W. eWatson wrote:
> Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
> flop the same way under Win 7.
>
> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
> 2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described. That is, if you
> right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?

Try it on Win 7.

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#15917

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:

>   That is, if you
> right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?

No idea, I use Geany on Linux. That's good enough for me.

But if it's that important to you, why don't you find out how to add it 
to that menu on your own? I mean, if some stupid installer can do 
it, or can't, as the case may be, couldn't a human...?


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#15920

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:

> Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
> flop the same way under Win 7.
> 
> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
> 2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you
> right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?

Terry Reedy has already said that his installation works fine.

"I installed 3.3.2 on a new Win 7 machine and Edit with IDLE works fine."


If you have installed the regular, 32-bit version of Python on a 64-bit 
version of Windows, chances are good that there will be registry problems 
stopping things from working correctly. See Stephen Hansen's post.



-- 
Steven

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#15921

On 11/18/2011 3:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:
>
>> Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
>> flop the same way under Win 7.
>>
>> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
>> 2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you
>> right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?
>
> Terry Reedy has already said that his installation works fine.
>
> "I installed 3.3.2 on a new Win 7 machine and Edit with IDLE works fine."
>
>
> If you have installed the regular, 32-bit version of Python on a 64-bit
> version of Windows, chances are good that there will be registry problems
> stopping things from working correctly. See Stephen Hansen's post.
>
>
>
Somehow 3.3.2 doesn't look like 2.7.2.

Ah, I installed a 32-bit.  Missed his post. So what should I do? Try 
3.3.2 64-bit? I'm game. By the time you read this, I will either have 
done it or gotten into it.

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#15922

On 11/18/2011 4:31 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
> On 11/18/2011 3:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:
>>
>>> Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
>>> flop the same way under Win 7.
>>>
>>> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
>>> 2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described. That is, if you
>>> right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?
>>
>> Terry Reedy has already said that his installation works fine.
>>
>> "I installed 3.3.2 on a new Win 7 machine and Edit with IDLE works fine."
>>
>>
>> If you have installed the regular, 32-bit version of Python on a 64-bit
>> version of Windows, chances are good that there will be registry problems
>> stopping things from working correctly. See Stephen Hansen's post.
>>
>>
>>
> Somehow 3.3.2 doesn't look like 2.7.2.
>
> Ah, I installed a 32-bit. Missed his post. So what should I do? Try
> 3.3.2 64-bit? I'm game. By the time you read this, I will either have
> done it or gotten into it.

3.3.2? I do not see that in his single message I found. I see a 3.2.2 
release on <http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.2.2/>. Google 
shows me nothing for 3.3.2.

I see:
     * Windows x86 MSI Installer (3.2.2) (sig) and Visual Studio debug 
information files (sig)
     * Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2) [1] (sig) and Visual Studio 
debug information files (sig)

Visual Studio????  I hope I don't need VS!

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#15924

On 19/11/2011 00:50, W. eWatson wrote:
> On 11/18/2011 4:31 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
>> On 11/18/2011 3:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
>>>> flop the same way under Win 7.
>>>>
>>>> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
>>>> 2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described. That is, if you
>>>> right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?
>>>
>>> Terry Reedy has already said that his installation works fine.
>>>
>>> "I installed 3.3.2 on a new Win 7 machine and Edit with IDLE works
>>> fine."
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have installed the regular, 32-bit version of Python on a 64-bit
>>> version of Windows, chances are good that there will be registry
>>> problems
>>> stopping things from working correctly. See Stephen Hansen's post.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Somehow 3.3.2 doesn't look like 2.7.2.
>>
>> Ah, I installed a 32-bit. Missed his post. So what should I do? Try
>> 3.3.2 64-bit? I'm game. By the time you read this, I will either have
>> done it or gotten into it.
>
> 3.3.2? I do not see that in his single message I found. I see a 3.2.2
> release on <http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.2.2/>. Google
> shows me nothing for 3.3.2.
>
> I see:
> * Windows x86 MSI Installer (3.2.2) (sig) and Visual Studio debug
> information files (sig)
> * Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2) [1] (sig) and Visual Studio debug
> information files (sig)
>
> Visual Studio???? I hope I don't need VS!

If you look more closely you'll see that there are 5 links on each line:

     Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)
     [1]
     (sig)
     Visual Studio debug information files
     (sig)

Unless you intending to work on the sources, you need just the first
one:

     Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)

for a 64-bit build of Python 3.2.2.

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#15928

...
>>
>> 3.3.2? I do not see that in his single message I found. I see a 3.2.2
>> release on <http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.2.2/>. Google
>> shows me nothing for 3.3.2.
>>
>> I see:
>> * Windows x86 MSI Installer (3.2.2) (sig) and Visual Studio debug
>> information files (sig)
>> * Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2) [1] (sig) and Visual Studio debug
>> information files (sig)
>>
>> Visual Studio???? I hope I don't need VS!
>
> If you look more closely you'll see that there are 5 links on each line:
>
> Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)
> [1]
> (sig)
> Visual Studio debug information files
> (sig)
>
> Unless you intending to work on the sources, you need just the first
> one:
>
> Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)
>
> for a 64-bit build of Python 3.2.2.

An oddity occurs here. Yes, x86-64 is the right installer, maybe. While 
noting your msg, my PC got very slow, and I ended up going to a related 
site for the downloads of 3.2.2 while trying for the one above. 
<http://www.python.org/download/>.

It shows:
Also look at the detailed Python 3.2.2 page:

     * Python 3.2.2 Windows x86 MSI Installer (Windows binary -- does 
not include source)
     * Python 3.2.2 Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (Windows AMD64 / Intel 
64 / X86-64 binary [1] -- does not include source)

The first of the two choices does not say x-bit anything. The second 
looks off course for my HP 64-bit PC.

I'm going to just use Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2).

Wait a minute Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2). Windows X86-64 MSI 
Installer (3.2.2) shows it's associated with Visual Studio.  Why would I 
want that? Ah, I get it The single first line has Windows X86-64 MSI 
Installer (3.2.2) and Visual Studio.  That's a really weird way to 
arrange them. OK, now off to Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)

I'll be back shortly after I've made the install.

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#15929

On 11/18/2011 9:03 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
> ...
>>>
>>> 3.3.2? I do not see that in his single message I found. I see a 3.2.2
>>> release on <http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.2.2/>. Google
>>> shows me nothing for 3.3.2.
>>>
>>> I see:
>>> * Windows x86 MSI Installer (3.2.2) (sig) and Visual Studio debug
>>> information files (sig)
>>> * Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2) [1] (sig) and Visual Studio debug
>>> information files (sig)
>>>
>>> Visual Studio???? I hope I don't need VS!
>>
>> If you look more closely you'll see that there are 5 links on each line:
>>
>> Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)
>> [1]
>> (sig)
>> Visual Studio debug information files
>> (sig)
>>
>> Unless you intending to work on the sources, you need just the first
>> one:
>>
>> Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)
>>
>> for a 64-bit build of Python 3.2.2.
>
> An oddity occurs here. Yes, x86-64 is the right installer, maybe. While
> noting your msg, my PC got very slow, and I ended up going to a related
> site for the downloads of 3.2.2 while trying for the one above.
> <http://www.python.org/download/>.
>
> It shows:
> Also look at the detailed Python 3.2.2 page:
>
> * Python 3.2.2 Windows x86 MSI Installer (Windows binary -- does not
> include source)
> * Python 3.2.2 Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (Windows AMD64 / Intel 64 /
> X86-64 binary [1] -- does not include source)
>
> The first of the two choices does not say x-bit anything. The second
> looks off course for my HP 64-bit PC.
>
> I'm going to just use Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2).
>
> Wait a minute Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2). Windows X86-64 MSI
> Installer (3.2.2) shows it's associated with Visual Studio. Why would I
> want that? Ah, I get it The single first line has Windows X86-64 MSI
> Installer (3.2.2) and Visual Studio. That's a really weird way to
> arrange them. OK, now off to Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (3.2.2)
>
> I'll be back shortly after I've made the install.

I surrender. IDLE does not appear as a choice when I right-click on a py 
file.

IDLE is on the All Programs list, and if I click on it, something more 
or less seems to happen, but it does not reveal anything. There is a 
comparability choice there that asks what OS did it last run on. 
Unfortunately the choices were VISTA (service packs) and Win7. I 
selected Win7 but it didn't help. Off to bed soon.

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#15931

On 11/19/2011 12:03 AM, W. eWatson wrote:

I meant 3.2.2, not 3.3.2, sorry for typo.

> * Python 3.2.2 Windows x86 MSI Installer (Windows binary -- does not
> include source)

this is 32 bit. Note that your c: has /program files for 64 bit programs 
and /program files(x86) for 32 bit programs. I know, a bit confusing.

> * Python 3.2.2 Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (Windows AMD64 / Intel 64 /
> X86-64 binary [1] -- does not include source)

this is 64 bit.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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#15934

On 11/19/2011 2:39 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 11/19/2011 12:03 AM, W. eWatson wrote:
>
> I meant 3.2.2, not 3.3.2, sorry for typo.
>
>> * Python 3.2.2 Windows x86 MSI Installer (Windows binary -- does not
>> include source)
>
> this is 32 bit. Note that your c: has /program files for 64 bit programs
> and /program files(x86) for 32 bit programs. I know, a bit confusing.
>
>> * Python 3.2.2 Windows X86-64 MSI Installer (Windows AMD64 / Intel 64 /
>> X86-64 binary [1] -- does not include source)
>
> this is 64 bit.
>
Yes. Did I miss something?

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#15927

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:31:03 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:

> Somehow 3.3.2 doesn't look like 2.7.2.

Oops, so you're right. Sorry for the noise.

-- 
Steven

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#15930

On 11/18/2011 6:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:
>
>> Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
>> flop the same way under Win 7.
>>
>> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
>> 2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you
>> right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?
>
> Terry Reedy has already said that his installation works fine.
>
> "I installed 3.3.2 on a new Win 7 machine and Edit with IDLE works fine."

64 bit python and 64 bit win 7
>
> If you have installed the regular, 32-bit version of Python on a 64-bit
> version of Windows, chances are good that there will be registry problems
> stopping things from working correctly. See Stephen Hansen's post.
>
>
>


-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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#15935

On 11/19/2011 2:34 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 11/18/2011 6:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote:
>>
>>> Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2
>>> flop the same way under Win 7.
>>>
>>> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
>>> 2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described. That is, if you
>>> right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?
>>
>> Terry Reedy has already said that his installation works fine.
>>
>> "I installed 3.3.2 on a new Win 7 machine and Edit with IDLE works fine."
>
> 64 bit python and 64 bit win 7
>>
>> If you have installed the regular, 32-bit version of Python on a 64-bit
>> version of Windows, chances are good that there will be registry problems
>> stopping things from working correctly. See Stephen Hansen's post.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Yes, see the other fork started by MRAB I tried it. Same old problem.

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#15932

Works fine for me from msi install on Windows 8 x64 Dev Preview

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:06 AM, W. eWatson <wolftracks@invalid.com> wrote:
> Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop
> the same way under Win 7.
>
> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of 2.7.2
> has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you right-click
> on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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#15936

On 11/19/2011 5:51 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:
> Works fine for me from msi install on Windows 8 x64 Dev Preview
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:06 AM, W. eWatson<wolftracks@invalid.com>  wrote:
>> Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop
>> the same way under Win 7.
>>
>> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of 2.7.2
>> has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you right-click
>> on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?
>> --
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
3.2.2, and not 2.7.2. The course of the thread was changed at the MRAB 
post.

What do you mean by it works fine? My criterion is that it puts IDLE as 
a choice for editor on the menu produced with a right-click on a py file.

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#15937

On 11/19/2011 5:51 AM, Alec Taylor wrote:
> Works fine for me from msi install on Windows 8 x64 Dev Preview
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:06 AM, W. eWatson<wolftracks@invalid.com>  wrote:
>> Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop
>> the same way under Win 7.
>>
>> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of 2.7.2
>> has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you right-click
>> on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?
>> --
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Are you suggesting the mail list might be a better place to pursue this? 
Or is it from some one else?

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#16099

"W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> writes:

> One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of
> 2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described.  That is, if you
> right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the IDLE editor?

I don't have 2.7.2, but my Windows (7, 32 bit) machine has 3.2 installed
and also 2.6.6 included in Python(x,y) distribution.

Right clicking on a .py has, under Open with, the choices GNU
Emacsclient (my choice for editing), python.exe and pythonw.exe. No
Idle.

I was able to add idle to the menu it by clicking "Choose default
program" in the menu and pointing that to idle.bat.

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#16111 — Python 2.7.2 on XP

Dear All,

I am new to python. I do not know why my python editor (for 2.7.2)
changes everything to just black and white after saving. No color for
say the built in functions for loops defs .... they all look the same -
it is annoying for someone coming from another editors that help you
track/easily see your work. I just un installed it to install it again.
I know it is pain to install all the scientific things again. I wish
Python has something like R (R-studio) from which you can install
packages very easily. I just started yesterday and already frustrated
with it. I am sticking to python only because I hear good things about
it and I think it is my problem.

Thank you all

Alemu
    

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#16113 — Re: Python 2.7.2 on XP

In <mailman.2973.1322062878.27778.python-list@python.org> "Alemu Tadesse" <atadesse@sunedison.com> writes:

> I am new to python. I do not know why my python editor (for 2.7.2)
> changes everything to just black and white after saving. No color for

What editor are you using?  There are quite a lot of them.

-- 
John Gordon                   A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs
gordon@panix.com              B is for Basil, assaulted by bears
                                -- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb Tinies"

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