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  Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-13 22:57 -0700
    Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2011-08-14 02:54 -0500
      Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Alister Ware <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2011-08-14 10:58 +0000
        Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-14 13:08 +0100
    Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-08-14 08:07 +0000
    Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Irmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl> - 2011-08-14 15:21 +0200
      Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-14 14:46 +0100
        Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. harrismh777 <harmar@member.fsf.org> - 2011-08-14 15:11 -0500
        Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-08-15 12:06 +0000
          Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-08-15 17:44 +0100
            Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-08-15 17:14 +0000
              Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2011-08-16 12:52 +1200
                Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-08-16 02:59 +0100
                Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-08-15 22:01 -0400
                  Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-08-16 02:33 +0000
    Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2011-08-14 11:23 -0400
    Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-14 10:21 -0700
      Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-14 18:38 +0100
        Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-15 10:56 +1000
          Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-08-15 04:28 +0000
      Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2011-08-14 14:50 -0500
      Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Dave Angel <davea@ieee.org> - 2011-08-14 18:01 -0400
        Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-14 18:35 -0700
          Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Christophe Chong <christophechong@gmail.com> - 2011-08-14 22:01 -0700
          Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2011-08-16 12:48 +1200
            Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-08-15 20:57 -0400
            Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-16 11:53 +1000
            Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-15 21:50 -0700
              Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2011-08-16 00:07 -0700
                Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-16 08:06 -0700
                  RE: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> - 2011-08-16 13:51 -0400
                    Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. "Martin P. Hellwig" <martin.hellwig@gmail.com> - 2011-08-16 19:37 +0100
                      Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-16 19:42 +0100
                      Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-08-16 20:03 +0100
                      Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-16 13:13 -0700
                        Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. David Monaghan <monaghand.david@gmail.com> - 2011-08-16 22:55 +0100
                          Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-16 16:12 -0700
                            Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-08-16 23:25 +0000
                              Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-16 16:50 -0700
                                Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-08-17 00:33 +0000
                                  Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2011-08-16 20:02 -0500
                                  Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2011-08-16 18:09 -0700
                                  Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-16 18:47 -0700
                                    Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. SigmundV <sigmundv@gmail.com> - 2011-08-17 15:48 -0700
                            Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. David Monaghan <monaghand.david@gmail.com> - 2011-08-17 00:43 +0100
                          Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-17 11:14 +1000
                    Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. "Martin P. Hellwig" <martin.hellwig@butterfly.uk.com> - 2011-08-16 19:37 +0100
      Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-14 23:57 +0100
    Re: Ten rules to becoming a Python community member. rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-14 18:40 -0700

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#11367 — Ten rules to becoming a Python community member.

Follow these simply rules to become an accepted member of the Python
community.
------------------------------------------------------------

1. Bash rantingrick and Xah Lee every chance you get.

2. Bash people who bash rick or xah because their basing made rick's
or xah's words pass through your spam filter.

3. Post links to xkcd as often as you can. Don't worry if they have
been posted a thousand times, just post them because it equals "geek
cool points".

4. When the chance presents itself, make snide comments about lisp and
perl; but NEVER about Ruby! (even though Ruby is Perl's micro
minion!).

5. Use fancy words like "tail recursion", just because you read about
it on Guido's blog once (even if you have no idea what that means)!

6. Engage in heated and pointless discussions as to whether Python is
"pass-by-reference" or "pass-by-value" even if you have no idea what
the hell you are talking about.

7. Play devils advocate often e.g., If someone hates Tkinter: then
argue how great Tkinter is regardless of how much you actually care,
use, or know about the module. Likewise if someone likes Tkinter: then
argue how terrible Tkinter is and how Python does not need any GUI
library; again, regardless of how much you actually care, use, or know
about the module.

8. Use "e.g." as many times as you can! (e.g. e.g.) If you use "e.g."
more than ten times in a single post, you will get an invite to
Guido's next birthday party; where you'll be forced to do shots whist
walking the balcony railing wearing wooden shoes!

9. Never use the word "previously" or the phrase "in the past"; just
dumb it down with "used to".

10. Finally, if you get caught using the word "that" incredibly
excessively, just hope that nobody notices that that that you are
really GvR in disguise.

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#11369

On 2011.08.14 12:57 AM, rantingrick wrote:
> Follow these simply rules to become an accepted member of the Python
> community.
Sounds good. You should consider submitting this as a PEP.

-- 
CPython 3.2.1 | Windows NT 6.1.7601.17592 | Thunderbird 5.0
PGP/GPG Public Key ID: 0xF88E034060A78FCB

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#11382

On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 02:54:44 -0500, Andrew Berg wrote:

> On 2011.08.14 12:57 AM, rantingrick wrote:
>> Follow these simply rules to become an accepted member of the Python
>> community.
> Sounds good. You should consider submitting this as a PEP.

That would mark the first constructive action from rantingnick ever

Surely that would mark the end of the sentient universe?



-- 
The deafening silence taught me not to ask a bunch of geeks for advice
from their girlfriends

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#11384

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Alister Ware
<alister.ware@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> That would mark the first constructive action from rantingnick ever
>
> Surely that would mark the end of the sentient universe?

Only if he actually did it. Many's the time people have called for him
to write a PEP, or (better still) to write some actual code. Unless,
as seems likely, Ranting Rick is not his real name, I do not know that
he has ever done so.

(What sort of mother names her son "Ranting Rick", anyway?)

ChrisA

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#11370

On 2011-08-14, rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> wrote:
> Follow these simply rules to become an accepted member of the Python
> community.

> 1. Bash rantingrick and Xah Lee every chance you get.

... If I'd known you were in the same category as him, I wouldn't have
needed to wait until now to know to plonk you.

-s
-- 
Copyright 2011, all wrongs reversed.  Peter Seebach / usenet-nospam@seebs.net
http://www.seebs.net/log/ <-- lawsuits, religion, and funny pictures
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology) <-- get educated!
I am not speaking for my employer, although they do rent some of my opinions.

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#11387

On 14-8-2011 7:57, rantingrick wrote:
> 8. Use "e.g." as many times as you can! (e.g. e.g.) If you use "e.g."
> more than ten times in a single post, you will get an invite to
> Guido's next birthday party; where you'll be forced to do shots whist
> walking the balcony railing wearing wooden shoes!

I lolled about this one, e.g. I laughed out loud. But where are the tulips and windmills
for extra credit?

Greetings from a Dutchman!

Irmen

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#11389

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Irmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> On 14-8-2011 7:57, rantingrick wrote:
>> 8. Use "e.g." as many times as you can! (e.g. e.g.) If you use "e.g."
>> more than ten times in a single post, you will get an invite to
>> Guido's next birthday party; where you'll be forced to do shots whist
>> walking the balcony railing wearing wooden shoes!
>
> I lolled about this one, e.g. I laughed out loud. But where are the tulips and windmills
> for extra credit?
>
> Greetings from a Dutchman!

Is partial credit available for part-Dutch people, e.g. those with at
least two grandparents from Holland?

(Couldn't resist sticking an e.g. in there, even though I know it's
just feeding the troll...)

Irmen, you definitely get bonus points for a .nl domain.

ChrisA

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#11414

Chris Angelico wrote:
>> I lolled about this one, e.g. I laughed out loud. But where are the tulips and windmills
>> >  for extra credit?
>> >
>> >  Greetings from a Dutchman!
> Is partial credit available for part-Dutch people, e.g. those with at
> least two grandparents from Holland?
>

... do we get extra credit for having our own shoes... my pair are 
official (e.g. hand-carved in Holland, with little windmills wood-burned 
on the bow... )

... mine also have lambs wool lining... don't know it that adds anything 
official, but they sure feel great!


kind r'gards,




-- 
m harris

FSF  ...free as in freedom/
http://webpages.charter.net/harrismh777/gnulinux/gnulinux.htm

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#11454

On 2011-08-14, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Irmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> On 14-8-2011 7:57, rantingrick wrote:
>>> 8. Use "e.g." as many times as you can! (e.g. e.g.) If you use "e.g."
>>> more than ten times in a single post, you will get an invite to
>>> Guido's next birthday party; where you'll be forced to do shots whist
>>> walking the balcony railing wearing wooden shoes!
>>
>> I lolled about this one, e.g. I laughed out loud. But where
>> are the tulips and windmills for extra credit?
>>
>> Greetings from a Dutchman!

No credit. E.g., i.e., exampla gratis, means, "for example."

-- 
Neil Cerutti

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#11469

On 15/08/2011 17:18, Lucio Santi wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu
> <mailto:neilc@norwich.edu>> wrote:
>
>     On 2011-08-14, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com
>     <mailto:rosuav@gmail.com>> wrote:
>      > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Irmen de Jong
>     <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl <mailto:irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>      >> On 14-8-2011 7:57, rantingrick wrote:
>      >>> 8. Use "e.g." as many times as you can! (e.g. e.g.) If you use
>     "e.g."
>      >>> more than ten times in a single post, you will get an invite to
>      >>> Guido's next birthday party; where you'll be forced to do shots
>     whist
>      >>> walking the balcony railing wearing wooden shoes!
>      >>
>      >> I lolled about this one, e.g. I laughed out loud. But where
>      >> are the tulips and windmills for extra credit?
>      >>
>      >> Greetings from a Dutchman!
>
>     No credit. E.g., i.e., exampla gratis, means, "for example."
>
>
> The correct spelling is 'exempli gratia'. It's Latin.
>
> i.e., on the other hand, comes from 'id est' ('that is'). Latin too.
>
I remember reading a book about polymorphism in programming. The author 
said
it came from Latin. Nope.

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#11470

On 2011-08-15, MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> wrote:
> On 15/08/2011 17:18, Lucio Santi wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu
>> <mailto:neilc@norwich.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 2011-08-14, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:rosuav@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>      > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Irmen de Jong
>>     <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl <mailto:irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>      >> On 14-8-2011 7:57, rantingrick wrote:
>>      >>> 8. Use "e.g." as many times as you can! (e.g. e.g.) If you use
>>     "e.g."
>>      >>> more than ten times in a single post, you will get an invite to
>>      >>> Guido's next birthday party; where you'll be forced to do shots
>>     whist
>>      >>> walking the balcony railing wearing wooden shoes!
>>      >>
>>      >> I lolled about this one, e.g. I laughed out loud. But where
>>      >> are the tulips and windmills for extra credit?
>>      >>
>>      >> Greetings from a Dutchman!
>>
>>     No credit. E.g., i.e., exampla gratis, means, "for example."
>>
>>
>> The correct spelling is 'exempli gratia'. It's Latin.

Thanks for the correction.

>> i.e., on the other hand, comes from 'id est' ('that is').
>> Latin too.
>
> I remember reading a book about polymorphism in programming.
> The author said it came from Latin. Nope.

Sounds more like Greek.

-- 
Neil Cerutti

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#11489

I don't mind people using e.g. and i.e. as long
as they use them *correctly*.

Many times people use i.e. when they really
mean e.g.

-- 
Greg

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#11497

On 16/08/2011 01:52, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> I don't mind people using e.g. and i.e. as long
> as they use them *correctly*.
>
> Many times people use i.e. when they really
> mean e.g.
>
Can you give me an example? :-)

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#11498

In article <9att9mF710U2@mid.individual.net>,
 Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:

> I don't mind people using e.g. and i.e. as long
> as they use them *correctly*.

The only correct way to use i.e. is to use it to download a better 
browser.

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#11500

On 2011-08-16, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <9att9mF710U2@mid.individual.net>,
>  Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:
>
>> I don't mind people using e.g. and i.e. as long
>> as they use them *correctly*.
>
> The only correct way to use i.e. is to use it to download a better 
> browser.

Similarly:

Boy, is there, e.g., on my face now!

-s
-- 
Copyright 2011, all wrongs reversed.  Peter Seebach / usenet-nospam@seebs.net
http://www.seebs.net/log/ <-- lawsuits, religion, and funny pictures
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology) <-- get educated!
I am not speaking for my employer, although they do rent some of my opinions.

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#11396

I'd like to post a detailed response, e.g. a point-by-point engagement 
with Rantingrick's list, but as I lack time, this will have to suffice:

http://xkcd.com/386/

There! Can I get my community pin now? :-)
-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com

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#11403

On Aug 14, 12:57 am, rantingrick <rantingr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 9. Never use the word "previously" or the phrase "in the past"; just
> dumb it down with "used to".

I had forgot to mention one other usage of "used to":

WRONG: "I used to not like indention but know i am very used to it"
RIGHT: "Previously i lamented forced indentation but i have since
grown quite accustomed to it"

Also the usage of "supposed to" is rather foolish.

WRONG: "We are supposed to write clean code but i am not used to that"
RIGHT: "We are required to write clean code however i am not accustom
to that way of thinking.

Gawd, sometimes i feel like i'm watching an episode of squidbillies
when i read the this list.

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#11406

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 6:21 PM, rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> WRONG: "We are supposed to write clean code but i am not used to that"
> RIGHT: "We are required to write clean code however i am not accustom
> to that way of thinking.
>

Since when are we required to write clean code? If I write unclean
code (that's code with an undivided hoof, if you're Jewish), or if I
don't write code at all, will I be kicked from the group?

I think you need to start a blog, Rick.

You'd be easier to ignore.

ChrisA

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#11431

Chris Angelico wrote:

> I think you need to start a blog, Rick.
>
> You'd be easier to ignore.


And yet, here you are, engaging him in conversation and feeding him the
attention he craves :(



-- 
Steven

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#11441

On 2011-08-15, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> And yet, here you are, engaging him in conversation and feeding him the
> attention he craves :(

Many cultures have a tradition of almsgiving.

-s
-- 
Copyright 2011, all wrongs reversed.  Peter Seebach / usenet-nospam@seebs.net
http://www.seebs.net/log/ <-- lawsuits, religion, and funny pictures
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology) <-- get educated!
I am not speaking for my employer, although they do rent some of my opinions.

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