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  Re: Code hosting services Thomas Jollans <t@jollybox.de> - 2011-07-16 13:23 +0200
    Re: Code hosting services Jason Earl <jearl@notengoamigos.org> - 2011-07-16 10:00 -0600
      Re: Code hosting services Thomas Jollans <t@jollybox.de> - 2011-07-16 20:20 +0200
    Re: Code hosting services Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-07-17 20:08 +1000
      Re: Code hosting services Thomas Jollans <t@jollybox.de> - 2011-07-17 12:28 +0200

#9617 — Re: Code hosting services

On 07/16/2011 10:32 AM, Andrew Berg wrote:
> Does anyone know if there are any services that have cross-project
> integration? I can see myself closing a ton of bug reports just because
> they are issues with the library part of the program, which will be a
> separate project (because there will be other projects based on that
> same library).

Launchpad has a cross-project bug tracker. Launchpad also uses the
excruciatingly slow (but distributed, and written-in-python) bzr for
version control.

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#9625

On Sat, Jul 16 2011, Thomas Jollans wrote:

> On 07/16/2011 10:32 AM, Andrew Berg wrote:
>> Does anyone know if there are any services that have cross-project
>> integration? I can see myself closing a ton of bug reports just because
>> they are issues with the library part of the program, which will be a
>> separate project (because there will be other projects based on that
>> same library).
>
> Launchpad has a cross-project bug tracker. Launchpad also uses the
> excruciatingly slow (but distributed, and written-in-python) bzr for
> version control.

I think that you will find that recent versions of bzr are no longer
slow, at least compared to Mercurial.  My experience with bzr is with
the Emacs project, and it is true that there were some performance when
it first switched.  Most of the problems, however, were due to the fact
that that the GNU server hosting the Emacs bzr repository did not allow
updates via the bzr protocol but instead forced the use of a dumb
transport (sftp).

You don't have that problem when using Launchpad.

I will certainly agree that bzr's past problems have made it difficult
for the system to gain traction.  The perception is that bzr is unusably
slow.  This is too bad, IMHO, as Launchpad is pretty cool.

Jason

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#9643

On 07/16/2011 06:00 PM, Jason Earl wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 16 2011, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> 
>> On 07/16/2011 10:32 AM, Andrew Berg wrote:
>>> Does anyone know if there are any services that have cross-project
>>> integration? I can see myself closing a ton of bug reports just because
>>> they are issues with the library part of the program, which will be a
>>> separate project (because there will be other projects based on that
>>> same library).
>>
>> Launchpad has a cross-project bug tracker. Launchpad also uses the
>> excruciatingly slow (but distributed, and written-in-python) bzr for
>> version control.
> 
> I think that you will find that recent versions of bzr are no longer
> slow, at least compared to Mercurial.  My experience with bzr is with
> the Emacs project, and it is true that there were some performance when
> it first switched.  Most of the problems, however, were due to the fact
> that that the GNU server hosting the Emacs bzr repository did not allow
> updates via the bzr protocol but instead forced the use of a dumb
> transport (sftp).
> 
> You don't have that problem when using Launchpad.
> 
> I will certainly agree that bzr's past problems have made it difficult
> for the system to gain traction.  The perception is that bzr is unusably
> slow.  This is too bad, IMHO, as Launchpad is pretty cool.

I haven't used it in quite a while, so I'll take your word for it. bzr
used to be a lot slower that Mercurial on *local* operations. Mercurial
is, and has always been, only marginally slower than git.

And let's not speak of darcs.

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#9690

Thomas Jollans <t@jollybox.de> writes:

> Launchpad has a cross-project bug tracker.

With which you can (so I'm told) interact with completely using email.

> Launchpad also uses the excruciatingly slow (but distributed, and
> written-in-python) bzr for version control.

Citation needed. While Git is the fastest, Bazaar (so long as you're
using a non-ancient version) is plenty fast enough for most needs.

-- 
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  `\                                        of the face.” —Jack Handey |
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Ben Finney

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#9691

On 07/17/2011 12:08 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Thomas Jollans <t@jollybox.de> writes:
> 
>> Launchpad has a cross-project bug tracker.
> 
> With which you can (so I'm told) interact with completely using email.
> 
>> Launchpad also uses the excruciatingly slow (but distributed, and
>> written-in-python) bzr for version control.
> 
> Citation needed. While Git is the fastest, Bazaar (so long as you're
> using a non-ancient version) is plenty fast enough for most needs.
> 

You asked for it:
I cite: http://whygitisbetterthanx.com/#git-is-fast

Of course, I haven't used bzr in ages, and the data on that website is
pretty old. You say bzr has improved, and I'll take your word for it.

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